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Carlovonsexron wrote:
The sculpts are gonna have to be great to convince people who already use pther rules sets and the fanrastic Perry historical minis to move to it...

If the plastics are as good as the Dark Sword metals they already put out for the Song of Ice and Fire line, then you shouldn't be disapointed.

The small trailer video had me confused with a giant troll on the table, but looks like they were just prototyping the game using Blood Rage model proxies.

Uses cards for model stats and abilities and Eric Lang was in the video giving some confidence for the rules.

Cam video, starts at 2:21.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmR_NmySfXw

Still not sure how much mass appeal there is for rank and file game even with it having the thrones licence.

The round bases in edged movement trays is a good start. The WoTR game from G-Dub used that style and it worked really well for securing the figs, using in skirmish and securing them while shifting the unit.

 Carnikang wrote:
GoT stepping up to fill the Rank and File wargame is probably the smartest move a company has made to take WHFB's spot. This will get fans of the game interested, at least for a while, and give them a foothold on the table-top.

Hopefully the actual models look a little bit better.

A good idea yes, but its not filling any spot. There is plenty of rank and file out there, and this certainty isn't taking up the fantasy rank and file slot/filing in some hole

I think the Game of Thrones hype is down a bit...
I doubt this game will be too popular :/

the idea I like, tiles akin to the War of the ring- too, but "pre assembled";"3+ unique sculpts in a unit" - meh

It might depend on what part of the world you live re. the hype?

Here in the UK GoT is pretty massive, just looked it up and 3.8 million watched the final episode (guess similar in the US too?)

There arguably isn't a bigger franchise, at least here, as far as fantasy is concerned.

Definitely something I'll end up getting.

 Pacific wrote:
It might depend on what part of the world you live re. the hype?

Here in the UK GoT is pretty massive, just looked it up and 3.8 million watched the final episode (guess similar in the US too?)

There arguably isn't a bigger franchise, at least here, as far as fantasy is concerned.

Game of thrones isn't really 'about' the battles though. It's a character driven show. For the most part, both the books and the shows sidestep showing any actual war scenes.

I think a tight character driven skirmish game would have made a lot more sense in the context of GoT (think LOTR vs WOTR).

I concur .. never read the books and only saw the show, but to me GOT doesn't "feel" like war game material. Maybe something like humans vs white walkers/undead might have been a better theme to start with.

 Necros wrote:
I concur .. never read the books and only saw the show, but to me GOT doesn't "feel" like war game material. Maybe something like humans vs white walkers/undead might have been a better theme to start with.

There's lots of scope in the world for skirmishes between factions, within factions, and in the greater world.

Core game: Warbands of the Seven Kingdoms

Expansion 1: Warbands of Essos

Expansion 2: Wildling warbands, White Walker Warbands, etc..

 Necros wrote:
I concur .. never read the books and only saw the show, but to me GOT doesn't "feel" like war game material. Maybe something like humans vs white walkers/undead might have been a better theme to start with.

That`s because they cut out most of the battles out of the series (`cause they`re expensive) and replace them with unnecessary love stories (which weren`t in the books, but they`re a cheap filler to shoot). Yeah, I still like the show, but this annoys me a lot

Even the battles they keep they shrink them into an oblivion (the battle between wilderlings and the watch by the wall)

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:

 Necros wrote:
I concur .. never read the books and only saw the show, but to me GOT doesn't "feel" like war game material. Maybe something like humans vs white walkers/undead might have been a better theme to start with.

That`s because they cut out most of the battles out of the series (`cause they`re expensive) and replace them with unnecessary love stories (which weren`t in the books, but they`re a cheap filler to shoot). Yeah, I still like the show, but this annoys me a lot

Even the battles they keep they shrink them into an oblivion (the battle between wilderlings and the watch by the wall)

The books are pretty much the same.

I have read all of them, and I recall a fair bit more battles and fights, than you do, apparently - Greyjoy conquering Tyrell islands for example, Jon Connington sieging a castle, ect.

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
I have read all of them, and I recall a fair bit more battles and fights, than you do, apparently - Greyjoy conquering Tyrell islands for example, Jon Connington sieging a castle, ect.

Stannis' campaign to win the loyalty of some of the Northern Lords.

Didn't Martin write the books as something that could never be produced on film, because it would require so much money and level of production?

Even if they are cutting out some battles, the show is a hundred times more impressive in terms of scope and production value than anything I saw growing up through the 80s and 90s

Really looking forward to this - if the rules turn out badly, or interest in playing it goes away after a couple of years, I'll at least have a load of minis left to use for KoW or other games, whether they're round based or ranked!

Pre-assembled hard plastic sounds great to me, more time for painting.

So far it's reminding me a lot of GW's War of the Ring, which is definitely a good thing.

Probably the first and only CMoN KS I'll go for.

The Mountain looks great

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Oh poor, poor Runewars. Sorry FFG. I think this is going to eat your lunch.

You're not sorry, and neither is your wallet!

Whatever happened to Wrath of Kings? With CMON's boardgames, CMON releases everything at once then stops releasing new material. I see CMON has a timeline for releasing product to retail, though.

ced1106 wrote:

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Oh poor, poor Runewars. Sorry FFG. I think this is going to eat your lunch.

You're not sorry, and neither is your wallet!

Whatever happened to Wrath of Kings? With CMON's boardgames, CMON releases everything at once then stops releasing new material. I see CMON has a timeline for releasing product to retail, though.

According to my local store owner, they are also helping shops recover from Kickstarter sales. I will have the option of placing my KS pledge through the store, and not have to pay shipping.
That is a huge change, and very LGS friendly.

The books do have a lot more battles than the TV show, nice range from small skirmishes up to sieges so there is a lot of material to pull some interesting scenarios from.

Hopefully the licence also covers Robert's Rebellion as most troop types would be the same, you would just need a box set containing the relevant heroes and a scenario book.

Looking at the timeline they are releasing the first Starter in March 2018 (presumably the already shown Stark vs Lannister) and a second starter in June, so will be interesting to see what forces they go for there. With the FFG Westeros battles game were a lot of requests for a Night Watch vs White Walkers or Wildling set but I wouldn't be surprised if they were saving that and go for Baratheon vs Greyjoy instead (would also allow scenarios set during the Greyjoy Rebellion).

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

ced1106 wrote:

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Oh poor, poor Runewars. Sorry FFG. I think this is going to eat your lunch.

You're not sorry, and neither is your wallet!

Whatever happened to Wrath of Kings? With CMON's boardgames, CMON releases everything at once then stops releasing new material. I see CMON has a timeline for releasing product to retail, though.

According to my local store owner, they are also helping shops recover from Kickstarter sales. I will have the option of placing my KS pledge through the store, and not have to pay shipping.
That is a huge change, and very LGS friendly.

That's a really nice idea, wonder if it will also be available over in the UK or just American stores?
Something for CMoN to do it as it sounds as if it would eat into their profit margins.

 Necros wrote:
I concur .. never read the books and only saw the show, but to me GOT doesn't "feel" like war game material. Maybe something like humans vs white walkers/undead might have been a better theme to start with.

GoT is sort of a fantasy re-imagining of the War of the Roses, York=Stark, Lancaster=Lannister, etc. so there are plenty of pitched battles that are fought the books and tv show just focus more on the characters and political intrigue than the front lines of the battles. Which is understandable because while the characters certainly do their share of fighting they're not often in the thick of the fighting in pitched battles.

I like the look of the game, it will be interesting to see what all is included in the KS. The WOTR style unit trays make me happy and hopefully the rules are fun. I wonder what size the bases are, it would be nice if I could swap out or include other minis in the trays.

 Carnikang wrote:
GoT stepping up to fill the Rank and File wargame is probably the smartest move a company has made to take WHFB's spot. This will get fans of the game interested, at least for a while, and give them a foothold on the table-top.

Hopefully the actual models look a little bit better.

We're in the early stages right of hope right now. GoT is low fantasy for the most part. Outside of Dani's dragons and stuff north of the wall, it's mainly medieval armies. Have to see how things are when more details come out. While there is a lot material to plumb for the game, question is how much material can be plumbed profitably?

 silent25 wrote:

 Carnikang wrote:
GoT stepping up to fill the Rank and File wargame is probably the smartest move a company has made to take WHFB's spot. This will get fans of the game interested, at least for a while, and give them a foothold on the table-top.

Hopefully the actual models look a little bit better.

We're in the early stages right of hope right now. GoT is low fantasy for the most part. Outside of Dani's dragons and stuff north of the wall, it's mainly medieval armies. Have to see how things are when more details come out. While there is a lot material to plumb for the game, question is how much material can be plumbed profitably?

I don't doubt they'd take liberties if other "armies" suddenly wanted big gribblies. Martin might never pursue it outright... but The Kraken of Greyjoy/The Iron Isles, etc... could easily go Lovecraft and... ahem... fish something up.

I kind of wish that the HBO show was the source... Only because they armies are pretty distinct as far as look/theme. I want to see a big Giant... To smash the other little mens...

Two more images from GAMA





Apparently the KS is only for Starks and Lannisters the rest will follow at retail.

 Smokestack wrote:
I kind of wish that the HBO show was the source... ..

I can think of at least two reasons per mini why that idea would create controversy.

I will definitely want an Aria Stark model. I think I would be interested only as collection pieces. But the final models better be top notch.

It's still boardgame plastic, so it won't be.

Might have some luck finding a display-level 3d model from a fan or such.