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2017/04/06 16:53:56
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Foxy Wildborne
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2017/04/06 17:11:17
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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GW just re-released the Diazettes a few months ago via Made-to-Order. I got mine. Are you saying that you failed to order at that time? Or are you saying that you didn't order enough and want more?
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2017/04/06 17:24:55
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Brigadier General
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bbb wrote: Kap'n Krump wrote:If they were to offer a plastic-y option of their metal models, why wouldn't they simple offer their normal GW plastic?
I guess I'm not sure why PVC is even a question when their normal plastic is available.
The premise of the question is akin to what Reaper did with their Bones product line. They had an existing range of metal miniatures that they were able to make in a PVC style plastic. Games Workshop has an extensive back catalog of metal miniatures that they are sitting on. Recently they have shown a much more friendly stance towards their older ranges/games, even going so far as to occasionally re-release some of their metal miniatures via their Made-to-Order program on their website.
They cannot manufacture their old range of metal miniatures using "normal GW plastic" because it is only able to be used in injection molding where there are no undercuts. Metal miniatures are made by removing a hard miniature from a flexible mold, PVC miniatures are made by removing a flexible miniature from a hard mold.
I see slatwalls filled with blisters of Reaper's Bones and now WizKids' Nolzurās Marvelous Miniatures and I fondly think back to when my local store was filled with 25 feet of slatwall devoted to GW miniatures in blisters. That will never happen again, but given the quality of many of GW's metal offerings and the option of PVC, it would be cool to see some of those figures available again.
Well Put. One other consideration is that from what I've heard anecdotally, the tooling for PVC is more affordable than Hard Plastic and of course the PVC material is alot cheaper. Also, if you can get fairly clean casts with PVC then there's no reason to invest alot of cash in hard plastic molds for models where the original models weren't hyper-detailed enough to gain much benifit from hard plastic. I don't think GW would do this, but it's a nice idea.
I also remember those days of walls of blisters. Was a good time. At the FLGS I sometimes visit there are walls of reaper (metal and bones) and other brands of blisters and it's beautiful. The GW section is rather large there, but no wall of blisters.
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2017/04/06 17:32:06
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Thanks for the info about PVC v. plastic molding.
Hrmm. Are there any issues with painting PVC? If not, can't think of any reason they couldn't do this.
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2017/04/06 18:04:02
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kap'n Krump wrote:Thanks for the info about PVC v. plastic molding.
Hrmm. Are there any issues with painting PVC? If not, can't think of any reason they couldn't do this.
The issue with PVC oftentimes is the quality of the casts and the bendy-ness of the miniatures. Thin pieces can become warped and require resetting via a hot water/cold water procedure. There continue to be advancements as more companies are trying it, so hopefully they can get things perfected.
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2017/04/06 18:41:32
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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PVC has never been up to snuff with any other gaming material (though I may take it over resin, because I friggin' hate brittle stuff).
The only PVC stuff I've liked so far has been larger Bones figures. I think GW could do some of the larger old figures in that kind of material successfully (the Bones creatures like Griffons are 10x sharper/nicer to work with than 28mm scale figures which I've found terribly underwhelming).
In short, feth no.
I sold Dungeon Saga off after receiving the Kickstarter because the figures were such absolute crap quality. I think the Nolzur's stuff looks decent...but I will make sacrifices to populate a dungeon with cheap mediocre minis.
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2017/04/06 18:45:52
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Elbows wrote:The only PVC stuff I've liked so far has been larger Bones figures.
I didn't even like Bones, so I sold off the Dragon I got in the first KS.
I'll stick with Styrene plastic.
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2017/04/07 03:00:51
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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No PVC for me. I gave bones a shot, but in the end sold all of them. They were fine, but not inspiring and kept getting moved back in my painting que. I absolutely detest the grey PVC like Privateer uses. That stuff is the worst.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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2017/04/07 09:52:29
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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It totally depends on the quality of the PVC
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2017/04/07 14:16:44
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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JohnHwangDD wrote:
GW just re-released the Diazettes a few months ago via Made-to-Order. I got mine. Are you saying that you failed to order at that time? Or are you saying that you didn't order enough and want more?
I knew about them. I decided not to order. I've gotten a few Bones models and liked what I saw; I didn't want the Diaznettes in metal again (I had previously owned 30 mixed of foot and mounted and sold them). But I would take them again in Bones material, if they reflected the material change with their cost in the way Bones did. If they raised prices like finecast did on release, then hell no.
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2017/04/07 14:39:33
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The entire point of Diazettes would be lost by moving to soft PVC - you'd lose the detail.
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2017/04/07 21:49:08
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Metals or GTFO for me.
Ease of assembly*, conversion and painting (not to mention stripping said paint).
*YMMV. Having been assembling and converting metal figures for the better part of 30 years, I find it easy (and plastics are *too* easy).
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2017/04/07 22:25:08
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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Eh not really, I personally prefer Metal when I can get Metal. The PVC for the Bones line works so well because Reaper has a huge line of minis that can be used for a wide variety of things very cheaply. Getting your hands on a large variety of cheap minis is a godsend for Frostgrave and D&D campaigns.
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2017/04/07 23:44:46
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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not a chance...
Finecast gets none of my money, nor does Bones...
horrible materials :(
PVC sucked for Relic Knights, too, and has kept me out of buying any of the Wrath of Kings minis...
i'll stick with metal, HIPS, and proper resin...
i really don't like painting rubbery, bendy minis...
the sight of all those Bones minis in the shops breaks my heart...
cheers
jah
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Paint like ya got a pair!
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2017/04/08 11:38:03
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Commodus Leitdorf wrote:Eh not really, I personally prefer Metal when I can get Metal. The PVC for the Bones line works so well because Reaper has a huge line of minis that can be used for a wide variety of things very cheaply. Getting your hands on a large variety of cheap minis is a godsend for Frostgrave and D&D campaigns.
Yeah - neither of which I play. I don't play rpgs unless they are SF genre (and most of the figures suitable for this are metals) and a fantasy skirmish game still doesn't appeal - whether it's GW or otherwise. Especially the "cyberpunk" subgenre.
Plastics are/were solely for the mass-battle ranked infantry games (and for adding widgets and gear and parts to metals).
Hence the YMMV - I prefer metals. You might not, I don't particularly care.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2017/04/09 09:16:21
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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jah-joshua wrote:not a chance...
Finecast gets none of my money, nor does Bones...
horrible materials :(
PVC sucked for Relic Knights, too, and has kept me out of buying any of the Wrath of Kings minis...
i'll stick with metal, HIPS, and proper resin...
i really don't like painting rubbery, bendy minis...
the sight of all those Bones minis in the shops breaks my heart...
cheers
jah
I voted Perrie South Dakota, but only because there wasn't a beer and doughnuts option.
But pretty much what you said Jas, don't like PVC and I'll stick with metal,HIPS and resin. ( metal FTW tho baby \m/ )
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2017/04/09 09:45:33
Subject: Re:If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Nope, hate the medium with a passion. Not in the market for subpar materials.
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2017/04/09 14:51:00
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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I'll pass on PVC, but if they rereleased them in metal (like they've been doing with Made to Order) or in non-Finecast resin, I'd gladly buy some.
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2017/04/09 22:02:33
Subject: If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Philadelphia, PA
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Not in PVC. Metal would be ideal, but resin would be fine (not Finecast, but given they have quietly discontinued that material it would be unlikely they bring it back).
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2017/04/12 23:53:55
Subject: Re:If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I love finecast, I am ok with PVC, IF they were OOP LOTR/Hobbit models, I wouldnt care if they were sculpted from hardened permanent poop, I would buy them (am I the only one who hated Juan Diaz Daemonettes??)
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2017/04/13 20:16:16
Subject: Re:If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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Yes, yes you are.
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2017/04/13 22:24:32
Subject: Re:If GW re-released old metal minis in PVC would you buy them?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I knew there was something wrong with me but I really really like the new plastic ones.
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