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fresus wrote:
I wonder if the faction list for each book is exhaustive.
It confirms that all Eldar factions still exist as their own, but Militarum Tempestus and KDK seem to have disappeared.

MT where just a glorified AM elites list. KDK was just a glorified CSM/Demons ally list. hopefully they're not listed as independant factions because it's not nesscary.


on another ntoe, is it just my imagination or is the Primaris Captain wearing what looks like a psykic hood?

I feel like I am nearly in tears after seeing those Death Guard models, they are perfect in nearly every way.

 Rippy wrote:
I feel like I am nearly in tears after seeing those Death Guard models, they are perfect in nearly every way.

... they're Mary Poppins?

BrianDavion wrote:

fresus wrote:
I wonder if the faction list for each book is exhaustive.
It confirms that all Eldar factions still exist as their own, but Militarum Tempestus and KDK seem to have disappeared.

MT where just a glorified AM elites list. KDK was just a glorified CSM/Demons ally list. hopefully they're not listed as independant factions because it's not nesscary.

Note though, that we're missing things like Black Templars, White Scars and Imperial Fists, while gaining the sh*tshow that is the legion of the damned. PUT FLAMES ON IT, IT'S BADASS!

BrianDavion wrote:

on another ntoe, is it just my imagination or is the Primaris Captain wearing what looks like a psykic hood?

Spoiler:

I would have said "yep, that is clearly a psychic hood" and I still think so, but those jetpack buggerers also have something that looks like psychic hoods that makes me say that there is a small chance it's just a design choice.

 Purifier wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

fresus wrote:
I wonder if the faction list for each book is exhaustive.
It confirms that all Eldar factions still exist as their own, but Militarum Tempestus and KDK seem to have disappeared.

MT where just a glorified AM elites list. KDK was just a glorified CSM/Demons ally list. hopefully they're not listed as independant factions because it's not nesscary.

Note though, that we're missing things like Black Templars, White Scars and Imperial Fists, while gaining the sh*tshow that is the legion of the damned. PUT FLAMES ON IT, IT'S BADASS!

BrianDavion wrote:

on another ntoe, is it just my imagination or is the Primaris Captain wearing what looks like a psykic hood?

Spoiler:

I would have said "yep, that is clearly a psychic hood" and I still think so, but those jetpack buggerers also have something that looks like psychic hoods that makes me say that there is a small chance it's just a design choice.

the jet pack guys armor for the moment I am saying thats our mk 9 armor.

Can't wait for the Dark Imperium fluff, DEATH GUARD!!!

feth me dead. everyone about this is amazing.

My poor Australian wallet :(

My first question is, how much will all of this cost?
I'm not happy that the actual 280 page rule book is bundled up in the starter set. It should've been a small, thin and efficient rulebook-lite like the past editions. Now they have good reason to drive up the starter set price.

I think this starter set will be more than $200 AUD, (Dark Vengeance is only 165 AUD on the website), and I got Assult on Black Reach for 150 AUD.

The rulebook alone might be easily $80 AUD +, I do not want to pay for that in the starter set.

Thoughts?

TheDinosaur wrote:
feth me dead. everyone about this is amazing.

My poor Australian wallet :(

Maybe if you hold a charity sausage sizzle to raise some funds, eh? G'day there mate, throw another New Zealander on the barbie!

 Novelist47 wrote:
My first question is, how much will all of this cost?
I'm not happy that the actual 280 page rule book is bundled up in the starter set. It should've been a small, thin and efficient rulebook-lite like the past editions. Now they have good reason to drive up the starter set price.

I think this starter set will be more than $200 AUD, (Dark Vengeance is only 165 AUD on the website), and I got Assult on Black Reach for 150 AUD.

The rulebook alone might be easily $80 AUD +, I do not want to pay for that in the starter set.

Thoughts?

someone on the rumors forum says retailers are being told 125 british pounds.

What is Questor Tratoris (listed on the chaos codex)? Is it traitor guard? Please God be traitor guard

 SolidOakie wrote:
What is Questor Tratoris (listed on the chaos codex)? Is it traitor guard? Please God be traitor guard

Traitor Knights.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Novelist47 wrote:
My first question is, how much will all of this cost?
I'm not happy that the actual 280 page rule book is bundled up in the starter set. It should've been a small, thin and efficient rulebook-lite like the past editions. Now they have good reason to drive up the starter set price.

I think this starter set will be more than $200 AUD, (Dark Vengeance is only 165 AUD on the website), and I got Assult on Black Reach for 150 AUD.

The rulebook alone might be easily $80 AUD +, I do not want to pay for that in the starter set.

Thoughts?

someone on the rumors forum says retailers are being told 125 british pounds.

100£, 125€ is what I think.

 Garion wrote:
Starter set retail price is 125€. Confirmed by an online shop

BrianDavion wrote:

 Novelist47 wrote:
My first question is, how much will all of this cost?
I'm not happy that the actual 280 page rule book is bundled up in the starter set. It should've been a small, thin and efficient rulebook-lite like the past editions. Now they have good reason to drive up the starter set price.

I think this starter set will be more than $200 AUD, (Dark Vengeance is only 165 AUD on the website), and I got Assult on Black Reach for 150 AUD.

The rulebook alone might be easily $80 AUD +, I do not want to pay for that in the starter set.

Thoughts?

someone on the rumors forum says retailers are being told 125 british pounds.

$220 AUD for this starer set is a load of crap for me.
Don't get me wrong about this actual starter set. I love the models and I think they alone would warrant paying that kinda money. But now I know that at least 50 of that is going to that rulebook, bringing the starter set down to 170. I'd really rather pay for the 280 rulebook separately, now I gotta waste cash on something I don't need.

tneva82 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Novelist47 wrote:
My first question is, how much will all of this cost?
I'm not happy that the actual 280 page rule book is bundled up in the starter set. It should've been a small, thin and efficient rulebook-lite like the past editions. Now they have good reason to drive up the starter set price.

I think this starter set will be more than $200 AUD, (Dark Vengeance is only 165 AUD on the website), and I got Assult on Black Reach for 150 AUD.

The rulebook alone might be easily $80 AUD +, I do not want to pay for that in the starter set.

Thoughts?

someone on the rumors forum says retailers are being told 125 british pounds.

100£, 125€ is what I think.

 Garion wrote:
Starter set retail price is 125€. Confirmed by an online shop

ahh 100 pounds is a tinsy bit better, proably be 192 bucks Canadian or so


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 Novelist47 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Novelist47 wrote:
My first question is, how much will all of this cost?
I'm not happy that the actual 280 page rule book is bundled up in the starter set. It should've been a small, thin and efficient rulebook-lite like the past editions. Now they have good reason to drive up the starter set price.

I think this starter set will be more than $200 AUD, (Dark Vengeance is only 165 AUD on the website), and I got Assult on Black Reach for 150 AUD.

The rulebook alone might be easily $80 AUD +, I do not want to pay for that in the starter set.

Thoughts?

someone on the rumors forum says retailers are being told 125 british pounds.

$220 AUD for this starer set is a load of crap for me.
Don't get me wrong about this actual starter set. I love the models and I think they alone would warrant paying that kinda money. But now I know that at least 50 of that is going to that rulebook, bringing the starter set down to 170. I'd really rather pay for the 280 rulebook separately, now I gotta waste cash on something I don't need.

yeah in cluding a ahrd cover rule book with the set is a tad.. odd. especially as with the rules being as light as they are they coulda proably gone el chepo on em

yeah in cluding a ahrd cover rule book with the set is a tad.. odd. especially as with the rules being as light as they are they coulda proably gone el chepo on em

I honestly think GW is going for another cash grab. They know customers are going to have to buy this anyway, and they're milking every last drop out of us.
"Make it a big book and charge them more, they'll whine and moan, but they'll still pay."

I got a email from Forgeworld.

New Index Books!
Rules for the extensive Warhammer 40,000 Forge World range will be made available in a series of Index books.

The first two of these will be available alongside the new edition of Warhammer 40,000, available to pre-order on the 3rd of June. These first two books will cover the forces of the Adeptus Astartes and their traitorous kin.

Head over to the Warhammer Community site for more details on the rest of the Forge World range.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/forge-world-and-the-new-warhammer-40000/?utm_source=forgeworld.co.uk&utm_campaign=2b5e3df163-FW+23rd+May+40k+announcement&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a6ef0a01da-2b5e3df163-115959301


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So great. Still separate books for FW models.

Great...they've got those stupid collars that limit the number of heads/helmets you can use.

guru wrote:
From miniwars comments

Dark Imperium boxset 125€
Index book 20€ each
Warhammer 40.000 book 45€
Tactical Objectives 10€
Command Dice 15€
Sector Imperialis Objectives 25€
Combat Gauge 8€
Wound Trackers 10€

http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/05/warhammer-40000-dark-imperium.html#disqus_thread

GW book pricing level has gone back to sane ones it seems.

 Novelist47 wrote:

yeah in cluding a ahrd cover rule book with the set is a tad.. odd. especially as with the rules being as light as they are they coulda proably gone el chepo on em

I honestly think GW is going for another cash grab. They know customers are going to have to buy this anyway, and they're milking every last drop out of us.
"Make it a big book and charge them more, they'll whine and moan, but they'll still pay."

I dunno, a lotta people might skip it due to that. I mean I think they're banking on "new type of space marine, everyone'll want it" (they're proably right) but..

tneva82 wrote:

guru wrote:
From miniwars comments

Dark Imperium boxset 125€
Index book 20€ each
Warhammer 40.000 book 45€
Tactical Objectives 10€
Command Dice 15€
Sector Imperialis Objectives 25€
Combat Gauge 8€
Wound Trackers 10€

http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/05/warhammer-40000-dark-imperium.html#disqus_thread

GW book pricing level has gone back to sane ones it seems.

Interesting, the Dark Imperium starter set is only 125€, 190 AUD. That's honestly quite cheap imo. The 280 page rulebook is 45€ (68 AUD), meaning that the actual starter set is only 85€, $122 AUD. That is surprisingly cheap for a starter set, now I'm wondering how well made the sprues and everything are.

Either way, customers are still potentially saving up to 60 AUD if GW opted for a rulebook-lite version in the starter set. I do recognise that they're giving us a good deal, a lot cheap than my first estimations, they still forcing onto customers a product we might not want.

 Lance845 wrote:
I got a email from Forgeworld.

New Index Books!
Rules for the extensive Warhammer 40,000 Forge World range will be made available in a series of Index books.

The first two of these will be available alongside the new edition of Warhammer 40,000, available to pre-order on the 3rd of June. These first two books will cover the forces of the Adeptus Astartes and their traitorous kin.

Head over to the Warhammer Community site for more details on the rest of the Forge World range.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/forge-world-and-the-new-warhammer-40000/?utm_source=forgeworld.co.uk&utm_campaign=2b5e3df163-FW+23rd+May+40k+announcement&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a6ef0a01da-2b5e3df163-115959301


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So great. Still separate books for FW models.

Yeah, I saw the warhammer community post about that, very glad about that. I always liked where FW took the game.

Renegades and Heretics, and the Ork units they introduced were things I heavily based my armies on. I was very concerned about the fate of those units, I'm glad they eased my anxiety. GW did a good job on that front, wish they did a good job on all fronts though.

Nvm

TheDinosaur wrote:
feth me dead. everyone about this is amazing.

My poor Australian wallet :(

Yes, we will all be very short of dollerydoos after this release :(

 Novelist47 wrote:

Yeah, I saw the warhammer community post about that, very glad about that. I always liked where FW took the game.

Renegades and Heretics, and the Ork units they introduced were things I heavily based my armies on. I was very concerned about the fate of those units, I'm glad they eased my anxiety. GW did a good job on that front, wish they did a good job on all fronts though.

What they should have done is included the rules for FW models in the base index/codexs. This having to purchase multiple books to play a single army is nonsense. This was a prime chance to fix that.

As much as I agree with you Lance, that was never going to happen.

 Rippy wrote:
As much as I agree with you Lance, that was never going to happen.

not unless forge world started being carried in local GW stores, which according to my local GW manager would be a logistical problem because FW would proably not be able to keep up with demand.

 Rippy wrote:
As much as I agree with you Lance, that was never going to happen.

I also agree. FW was always a seperate entity from GW, they might have been owned by the same people, but they were very distinct and seperate groups.
As much as I would've preferred it all being in the xeno book, all the content they would put for the orks alone originating from the FW book would mean a 3rd xeno book. Having an Imperial Armour about orks is much the same as a 3rd xeno book, or a very big ork codex to me.

 Novelist47 wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
As much as I agree with you Lance, that was never going to happen.

I also agree. FW was always a seperate entity from GW, they might have been owned by the same people, but they were very distinct and seperate groups.
As much as I would've preferred it all being in the xeno book, all the content they would put for the orks alone originating from the FW book would mean a 3rd xeno book. Having an Imperial Armour about orks is much the same as a 3rd xeno book, or a very big ork codex to me.

Sure, but Nids is the malanthrope, a new type of spore mine, 2 heirodules, and a bio titan. Necrons get 2 maybe 3 characters, a vehicle, and some pylons.

How big of a book is that going to be?

honestly if a race just has like 1 unit chances are FW'll just puit it up on their website

 Rippy wrote:

TheDinosaur wrote:
feth me dead. everyone about this is amazing.

My poor Australian wallet :(

Yes, we will all be very short of dollerydoos after this release :(

Smell those hip pockets a burning.