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 MagicJuggler wrote:

 Ginjitzu wrote:
I'd like to see each traitor legion get fully flashed out a la Thousand Sons and Death Guard, and I fully expect that's what will happen. But top of the list has to be Sisters of Battle, if for no other reason to put an end to the most exhausted meme in all of 40kdom.

The last thing I want to see is *more* Space Marine codexes. That just reeks of a GW mindset, such as how Codex: Skitarii and Codex: Cult Mechanicus were separate books tied to separate model releases!

One Loyalist codex, one Chaos codex, deck them out with enough customizability and call it good.

I didn't like the Ad Mech division either, but what I thought was meant by "fleshed out" was a full model range. If each legion were to get a full range of models for each of the unit types, then I wouldn't oppose giving them their own Codex.

 DoomMouse wrote:
Sisters should finally be updated, as should some of the older ork kits. I have a hunch warbuggys/wartrakks might be soon from one of the rumour engines previews. Also some rough rider models would be nice.

Definitely agreed. I still find it hilarious that Orks are still using midget Germans to pilot their Gorkamorka Warbuggies well into 8th, while da Boyz are still twerking their way into a Waaagh!

GW also has way too many finecast units that could use plastics, including Obliterators and a lot of the Eldar range. I don't buy Finecast, period.

Everything that isn't space marines. I want to see what chapter tactics and stratagems are going to be like for the subfactions we HAVEN'T ever gotten to see, not the same boring-ass poster boys that have had them for 2 editions now. Show me regiment tactics, hive fleet tactics, sept tactics, I am champing at the bit to see anything that isn't god damn mother fluffing spess mehrines at this point.

But I know I won't get that. 2/3rds of the major releases in the last 2-3 years have been power armor, why would GW let up beating that dead horse now? We need to have a full-scale Emperor's Children release, a full-scale black templars release, a full-scale world eaters release, and a half dozen more knight sized primarchs before we can even think about a change of pace!

God, every time I think of the fact that we haven't even GOTTEN to slogging through the death guard with the inevitable overdesigned knight-sized primarch kit I feel sad. there's probably going to be another loyalist primarch after that with the rumors they've been teasing. It's going to be months before we get to anything else..

Can you just give them their sisters so they can shut up about it GW? Mother of sororitas!

Me personally I'd like to see some development with dark eldar HQ's. Where the heck is vect?!?! Some new phoenix lord models and hopefully some rules to make them use-able.

I'm a big sucker for primaris marines too - give me some primaris bikers pls on gigantic hallries!

A tau box of just drones en mass!

Maybe a scoutbiker HQ?

In the grim, dark world of 40k... there is only Space Marines.

 NH Gunsmith wrote:
In the grim, dark world of 40k... there is only Space Marines.

Not true. You have Space Marines, furry Space Marines, Vampire Space Marines, Spiky Space Marines, Zealous Space Marines that are in no way friends to the Spiky Space Marines, Divine Magic Space Marines, XCom Space Marines, Space Marines inside Space Marines, and at least two types of Space Marine Space Marine.

Just yesterday I finished a paint commission on the Raven Wing, not to be confused with the Raven Guard, the other stealth-based, fully rules supported raven themed space marines. Also not to be confused with the white scars, the other close combat focused bike-focused fully rules supported space marines subfaction.

Hahahaha. So true.

the_scotsman wrote:
Just yesterday I finished a paint commission on the Raven Wing, not to be confused with the Raven Guard, the other stealth-based, fully rules supported raven themed space marines. Also not to be confused with the white scars, the other close combat focused bike-focused fully rules supported space marines subfaction.

You forgot the Corvus Blackstar, the other Black Raven Space Marine flyer, armed with Corvid Missiles!

At least the Stormwolf and Stormfang did not have Wolfstrike missiles.

Also, never mistake Iron Hands for Iron Warriors, and remember that Raptors are a Loyalist Chapter, as well as a unit of Chaos Space Marines. (Have fun disassociating that one from the Keyword system!)

Squats.

Chaos or Imperium. I don't really care about xenos beside the "ceasefire" the Ynnari got with Guilliman.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I really like the formula of AoS of "Take a small part of a bigger faction, make it a faction of its own".
The Sylvaneth with the wooden part of the Wood Elves army. Kharadron Overlords with the Gyrocopters and the 8th Engineer. The Fyreslayers (Yes the Fyreslayers) or the Black Orks with the Ironjawz.

But at the same time in 40k they don't have the total freedom they have in AoS... but with the NEW 40k many things can change and be added.

So my vote goes to... Chaos Tau. That 4th sphere fleet... yeah GW, you want that.

(Just don't do it horrifically lazily like AoS did. If they do the High Elf thing and make every Aspect Warrior a separate faction that doesn't share command abilities with any other Eldar that'd just be stupid.)

No no, I wasn't talking about how they just divided the WHFB armies in a hundred factions totally arbitrary. I was talking about the formula they do to expand factions.
To put an example, they did put the Ogre Kingdom Fireshaman into is own faction "Firebellyes", where he is totally alone. Thats just stupid. But at the same time, if they take that unit, a Ogre that spits fire and eats lava, and make a full sub-faction of its own... fire ogres, with lava-beasts, etc... I think thats a formula that works.

Incubi temples
Slaanesh noise cult
Khorne berserker cult
The ecclesiarchy

Ork clans not named Goffs.

Or Freebooters.

On another note. speaking of fleshing out, why not the fleshiest of flesh-traders, the Stryxis?

Coyotepunc wrote:
Another vote for Kroot.

Am I missing something about Kroot? I used them in my last game and they suck - not very good shooting, very poor melee troops (and why the heck do they only get ONE attack when their rifle has blades on both ends for use as a two-handed weapon?

 Stormonu wrote:

Coyotepunc wrote:
Another vote for Kroot.

Am I missing something about Kroot? I used them in my last game and they suck - not very good shooting, very poor melee troops (and why the heck do they only get ONE attack when their rifle has blades on both ends for use as a two-handed weapon?

Unlike the Tau, the Kroot are 100% warp-capable and although they're a nominal vassal, they contract entire armies out throughout the galaxy, in order to ensure their genetic diversity.

They used to have an entire sub-army in Chapter Approved, with assorted options, ranging from Vulture Kindred (winged Kroot), to Shaper Councils. The list let the Shapers take special weapons including Flamers, Meltaguns, and Eviscerators (as "payment" for their mercenary endeavors), and an all-Kroot army could take an evolutionary divergence as an army-wide upgrade (though in practice, Ork Hybrid was the best option due to +1 Toughness). Forgeworld also added Knarlocs (though they sucked), and the Master Shaper was a low-level Psyker, so they were surprisingly well-rounded.

The RPGs have further expanded their options, with notable groups including Tuskbreaker Kindred (they'll work for almost free if contracted vs Orks), Coldfire Kindred (imagine technophiliac Kroot, that wear Fire Warrior armor, and their main goal is seeking out Dark Age relics), etc.

I'll go in the opposite direction of the thread. It may ruffle some feathers, but I'd like to see some of the tiny factions skip their own book and simply be added to the appropriate larger faction. You can keep your keywords and even have rules for your own armies if you really need them. Generally speaking all of these little tiny off-shoot armies should not be in their own book. It's just GW's attempt to get another $30-35 out of players for tiny ranges of models. It also detracts from the value of the actual full army codices which these are all yanked/removed from. Put them back into the bigger books and cut the silliness out.

Imperial Agents should still be a thing and should wholly encompass Grey Knights (which should have never been granted "army" status...as that's dumb)

Harlequins should just be thrown in with Craftworlds or Ynnari etc. A microscopic army absolutely not in need of its own book.

Sisters of Battle might as well be tossed into Imperial Agents, since it's still unlikely we'll see a big 6+ kit release expanding them beyond their tiny model range and limited army list.

Deathwatch absolutely does not need its own book and should be in the Marine codex, full stop. It's laughable to force them into an "army" of their own. Silliness. Made even more silly by the ability to run grand Imperium forces now.

 MagicJuggler wrote:
remember that Raptors are a Loyalist Chapter, as well as a unit of Chaos Space Marines. (Have fun disassociating that one from the Keyword system!)

This one is actually really easy, when you see "<thing>", read it as "thing:<named>". So "<chapter>" being "McSpacey Knights" should be read as "Chapter: McSpacey Knights". Which seems to be how it's intended per the FAQs.

Just generally fill out what should be the big factions to Imperial levels.

Chaos - Cult factions, Dark Mec, Traitor Guard (even if it's just a "regiment" choice) and Non Human Chaos (fallen Eldar, corrupted Orks etc)

Eldar - Expand the Harlequins, Exodites, Corsairs and make the Ynnari into their own faction rather then a group hug for the Eldar race.

Orks - Make the clans unique + Mek Boys

Tau - Full Kroot List, Demigurg (Sp?) and expanded Vespid, Human Aux (again even if just a "regiment" choice in the IG book)

Finally, if all of that happened, lets see what's been hiding in the Ghoul Stars

Revised Catachan Jungle Fighter Codex.

Contents:
- Army list for standard Imperial Guard and for Jungle Fighters.
- Old and new special characters.
- New units like Catachan Choppa.
- Special rules for jungle fights.
-Special rules for jungle critters.
- Terrain building tutorial.
- Workout training guide with VHS cassette (Pumping Iron, 1977)
- Survival training guide with compass and combat knife.

ScarVet101 wrote:
Just generally fill out what should be the big factions to Imperial levels.

Chaos - Cult factions, Dark Mec, Traitor Guard (even if it's just a "regiment" choice) and Non Human Chaos (fallen Eldar, corrupted Orks etc)

Eldar - Expand the Harlequins, Exodites, Corsairs and make the Ynnari into their own faction rather then a group hug for the Eldar race.

Orks - Make the clans unique + Mek Boys

Tau - Full Kroot List, Demigurg (Sp?) and expanded Vespid, Human Aux (again even if just a "regiment" choice in the IG book)

Finally, if all of that happened, lets see what's been hiding in the Ghoul Stars

<sniff> Not even DakkaDakka remembers the Necrons

I am a really big fan of all the factions that take little effort from gw's side, but add a lot of flavour.

Genestealer cults is a good example. Most of the troops existed before. Just add some conversion kits. Bonus points for them existing in 8th edition.

Harlequins is another good example.

Following this logic it is easy to make new factions of space marines, or even chaos marines.

I would love to see more eldrar like exodites or non fw corsairs.

A sunfaction of necrons who are still under C'tan controll, like the old necrons could be cool.


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Edit: actually when I think about it I would just like more female models. Preferably non nude/bdsm (slanesh/dark eldar) and prefarbly sane (non sisters).

I wish robert gulliman changdd the genesead so femaled could be spacemarines. After 100 years and 25 earth years I would love to see female captain heads.

I'd like to see more cross-over factions.

Dark Mechanicus (Ad Mech crossed with Chaos)
Official support for Traitor Guard

Chaos Orks
Chaos Tau
Chaos tainted Tyranids

Tyranized Orks (I mentioned this one earlier)

Necron-cult Admech/Mars Dragon Cult (C'tan cult on Mars)
Necron-agent Space Marine chapters (think Iron Hands, but necron tech instead of normal cybernetics)
Necron-agent Tau (take the "greater good" to the extreme, and feature a sept cooperating with necrons to feed them the raw materials they need to get a tombworld back online. It won't end well for the Tau, but they don't know that)

I also like the idea that someone put out there of some kind of Mercenaries supplement, simply detailing mercenary forces that could

a) be allied with damn near anyone
b) stand on their own
c) include some extremely interesting characters you wouldn't be able to find anywhere else

I'd also like to see more conversion kits. A LOT more conversion kits. I'd kill to get conversion kits for some of the AoS lines. They could make for some awesome minor Xenos forces.

Hell. Make conversion kits for dwarves and bring back the damn squats as abhuman mercenaries.

Make kits to convert beastmen for 40k chaos and bring back the full quartet. They've already done Tzangors. Just break down and do the other three.

 Gordon Shumway wrote:
Dark Mechanicus

Only if they take some inspiration from the FFG dark mechanicus stuff. I liked their designs much better than there current chaos line of deamon engines. I also want to see some of those cool weapons from the Black Crusade rpg brought to the Dark Mechanicus.

Dark Mech.

Chaos Tau since it's so obvious what GW is doing with the Tau it hurts. I don't know if I personally want them or will collect them, but eh may as well.

Tau Auxiliaries of an and all sorts.

Adeptus Arbities (would collect)

New Xenos faction that isn't in the lore currently.

If the above is not possible then flesh out a xenos race that exists in lore to a faction.

Eldar Exodites (would collect)

Sisters of Battle.

Frankly, we need it the most. We've been playing the same fething army list for 20 years, with almost nothing new to play with.

 Melissia wrote:
Sisters of Battle.

Frankly, we need it the most. We've been playing the same fething army list for 20 years, with almost nothing new to play with.

Oh I forgot them but yeah. They need something.

Edit
If we're also just talking factions that need stuff then add in.

Dark Eldar (it was such a mean tease when the rumor picture turned out to a Yneari model with DE markings)

Necrons.

None of them.

Rebel Grots.

Just because I think that would be funny, not that I think it would be a good army

Gamgee wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Sisters of Battle.

Frankly, we need it the most. We've been playing the same fething army list for 20 years, with almost nothing new to play with.

Oh I forgot them but yeah. They need something.

Don't worry, so did GW

Elbows wrote:I'll go in the opposite direction of the thread. It may ruffle some feathers, but I'd like to see some of the tiny factions skip their own book and simply be added to the appropriate larger faction. You can keep your keywords and even have rules for your own armies if you really need them. Generally speaking all of these little tiny off-shoot armies should not be in their own book. It's just GW's attempt to get another $30-35 out of players for tiny ranges of models. It also detracts from the value of the actual full army codices which these are all yanked/removed from. Put them back into the bigger books and cut the silliness out.

Imperial Agents should still be a thing and should wholly encompass Grey Knights (which should have never been granted "army" status...as that's dumb)

Harlequins should just be thrown in with Craftworlds or Ynnari etc. A microscopic army absolutely not in need of its own book.

Sisters of Battle might as well be tossed into Imperial Agents, since it's still unlikely we'll see a big 6+ kit release expanding them beyond their tiny model range and limited army list.

Deathwatch absolutely does not need its own book and should be in the Marine codex, full stop. It's laughable to force them into an "army" of their own. Silliness. Made even more silly by the ability to run grand Imperium forces now.

I definitely would approve of an Imperial Agents book that had Inquisition, Sisters, Grey Knights, and even Deathwatch, among other Imperial staples. But it would have to be leagues better than the abomination that they got at the end of 7th, or their treatment (primarily for Inquisition and Sisters) with the indices.