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Thinking about getting into the game! Wondering how each Favtion plays

How each faction play depends on a number of factors, foremost whether you play battle mode or narrative. The former uses restrictive army lists to provide discrete factions with a focus on balancing what options are there to provide grounds for competitive play. It also uses a set of specific missions unlike narrative play which covers the full breadth the rule set has to offer. Narrative play barely uses restrictions to force organization (and I personally view those as guidelines more than rules), does not restrict equipment beyond the equipment's inherent restrictions (like Super Mutants can't wear power armor or a fire hydrant bat requiring strength 10 to swing) and is largely based on picking the models you want to use that add up to the agreed points level.

Thoughts on the various factions with the limitations of battle mode in mind, as I understand them (personally I don't take much of an interest in it, I prefer narrative):

Brotherhood of Steel is something of a versatile or elite army, depending on what you want to go for. They have excellent marksmen in Lancers, reasonable allrounders in Knights, Scribes that don't want to be in a fight but that are speedy and good at interacting with objectives. and of course power armored heavyweights if you want to add tanky models. Durability for the faction can be achieved primarily through the use of armor or employing as many cheap bodies as you can fit. Laser rifles are very good weapons, but cost accordingly.

You can go heavier on some things than others, although leaning too much in the direction of power armor will cost you the ability to cover objectives very well as power armor can get very expensive quickly. But as far as tools are concerned, Brotherhood is quite capable of playing objectives, fighting at range but also thanks to the availability of heavier armor can last in melee if equipped accordingly.

Super Mutants are primarily good in melee and get their durability through high health less than armor, although they have a few means of getting good armor as well. Super Mutants have a whole span of troops from mediocre to devastating and can thus also be played in smaller or larger numbers, or something in the middle with a good mix. Super Mutants are more limited in their means of interacting with objectives than other factions and don't generally have the skills to use go in and grab it tactics like others, relying more on being a (melee) threat to enemy models to establish board control and buy their objective grabbers time to get things done. Super mutants are not bad at shooting but should not expect to routinely win firefights with other factions.

Survivors have a hero focus with a large variety at your disposal that I can't sum up because I haven't given half of them a look yet, as well as two sides to their troops. Settlers are cheap and plentiful, and fight accordingly. But at least they're cheap, and in the context of the game should be considered less trash and more just below mediocre. Minutemen are average marksmen and while defensively they are mediocre, they work well in teams and boost each other's rifle skills to become good. Laser muskets are cheap and not particularly great compared to laser rifles, but their damage output is reliable and gives Survivors decent shooting. Heroes can give you some pretty good fighters and specialists that cover just about any situation you may want to cover and their presence vital to back up the weaker troops that are outclassed by their Brotherhood and Super Mutant equivalents.

Survivors can probably be somewhat viable with just Settler spam or a full Minuteman force, but you should probably consider having heroes in your force to get something more competent than the average Joes. It should also be said that Minutemen are surprisingly expensive and as such will benefit from getting a bit of synergy into your force.

Raiders are new and I haven't seen them in action yet, but at first glance they seem as advertised to be a veritable horde faction. Cheap models with cheap weapons with decent inbuilt armor and a few good leaders seem to lend themselves to relying on redundancy and swarming the enemy. They are individually mediocre in their fighting skills, but also have access to Veteran Raiders which are very capable and have a neat little meat shield rule that may lend itself to playing several teams of a Veteran Raider for fighting and a Scavver Outlaw for objectives, allowing you to shield the weaker Scavver with the Veteran if you need to focus on objectives or take a critical hit to the Veteran on the Scavver if you need your prime fighter to stick around longer. Raiders also have Psychos which couple good melee skill with increased speed for a human, allowing you to employ swift, good melee troops if that is a direction that interests you.

If all goes well with production, two months from now we'll get the Institute that is said to be a horde faction also.There's no real information on them yet, but I would expect the horde style of Raiders mixed with the hero support of Survivors, utilizing cheap Synths and throwing in capable Coursers as support. Probably leaning in the direction of shooting more than Raiders that have a melee slant.

There will also be a robot faction introduced with the Institute wave. Robots currently range from very cheap and not particularly good Protectrons to Assaultron murder machines that cost a lot of points, with the Raider wave introducing unit cards for battered versions of robots to cover the great span in between them and give robot players more options. Battle mode I believe is to get an army list that is Mechanist themed with a robot controller and robotic minions. How the robot controller will impact gameplay is currently unknown and I myself have only used an Assaultron yet, so I can't really advise on how robots play.

In February or March next year at the earliest we'll see the release of the Enclave, which I expect will be the cooler, better, burnier and more expensive version of the Brotherhood of Steel. They're very much an unknown at this point and while it's easy to deduce that there will be better power armor and more plasma weaponry than the Brotherhood, without unit cards with S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats and special rules there's not much even in the way of speculation what playstyle exactly they are supposed to have. But with plasma rifles and incinerators, possibly mind conrtolled Deathclaws (pretty please, Modiphius!) they might be meant to be close quarters heavily armored troops compared to the more long range heavily armored Brotherhood.

Edit: A quick addition to creatures and robots: The creature controller and robot controller leader cards as well as the respective faction cards are already available so there is nothing to stop you from fielding these outside of battle mode. It's just the battle mode army lists that are going to be introduced slowly over time.

A gaming group and I are just getting into this game (finally - had a look at who started this thread and it was me lol!)

We have 1 BoS player, 1 super mutant, 1 raider (me), 1 survivors and 1 Enclave when they arrive.

Has anyone been playing this game for a while now and have any tales to tell?

Does anyone have a suggestion for a replacement head for the Raider Power Armour mini?



Don't get me wrong it's a nicely sculpted head, but it looks like it has been bolted on - I would much prefer a Power Armour type helmet (a bit of a 'diving suit' type look), will then clip this head off and find something else to use it with.

I will need to be a bit careful with 40k-suitable bits as the fallout minis aren't heroically sculpted for the most part (so don't want to end up with a massive head!)

To be honest I think the T51 helmet would look pretty good on there. The heads in the 3xT51 power armour box are separate so that's a good source.

Also, do you shudder at the thought of mashing all your item cards into a deck so you can draw from it during a scenario? I have a solution!

Welder helmets were common on those power suits in game

That's a cool tool Siygess thanks for posting it! I'm sure that will come in useful.

I am still trying to find my way with the cards and decks - I assume the Settlement Desk would be the next one to get after the main boxed game?

Vertrucio - thanks for the suggestion. Do you know of any good bits producers that would make anything suitable?

At the moment I have found these from Zinge Miniatures. I know they are not 'canon' but I think should suit the style of the armour.
Zinge also sell some quite useful looking scale wire, which I can bulk the armour out a bit with.



I have already cut the head from the Veteran Raider power armour and used it for the Survivor miniature in the Starter Pack. Going to give her some really dirty looking Vault Dweller uniform, as though she is a 'bad egg' that has come out of the Vault and become a raider

Hey guys

I have painted up some minis from the Raider set - have to say they are absolutely brilliant sculpts, lovely detail and a good quality resin. The detailed bases are a nice touch also, saving having to buy them separately.





For this last one I did a head-swap from the Raider power armour mini onto the sole survivor from the starter set. I like to think she is a vault dweller that has gone bad, or maybe she took it from some unfortunate! I'm thinking she will be a 'lieutenant' within the raider gang, don't mess with her!

If anyone is after a cheaper alternative to the official Radscorpions I got this mini from Reaper Miniatures. Bit of work bending the legs into place but placed on a Microarts rubble base think it looks pretty imposing.

I have tried to change the colours a bit from naturally occurring scorpions, to try and imagine how they might look if they have evolved on a post-apocalypse landscape.

These guys have just had a KS run to design some new minis (which has now just ended) but some really good stuff here I think suitable for Fallout - I've grabbed a few for my Raider gang, would recommend them
https://www.badrollgames.com/shop/

Has anyone else got any Fallout stuff on the go and care to share? I feel like I am talking to an empty room and by myself here

Nice Vault Dweller conversion there, and I like the way you painted the scorpion.

 Pacific wrote:
Has anyone else got any Fallout stuff on the go and care to share? I feel like I am talking to an empty room and by myself here

So I've had Liberty Prime in the works for the past year, and by in the works I mean a handful of occasional painting sessions with long months in between lacking the motivation to continue. I'm not good with large models/overly long projects and I can't play games right now to get motivation boost. It's really kind of frustrating.

I'm hoping for two things to happen. First, finish some of the projects I have on my desk. Getting stuff done helps, getting distracted by new shinies halfway through a project does not. But what can you do? New shinies!

Second, the Enclave is finally around the corner. I love Fallout and can get behind a lot of factions, so it's not like the interest isn't there with the factions and models we currently have, but it's just not the same without the guys from my first Fallout game. Not the least because I need Hellfire armor for my tabletop adaptation of me Lone Wanderer.

Incidentally the last time I put paint on Liberty Prime was when I placed my order for the Enclave. Gave me a good boost there for a day or two.

Ah great to see your comments again Geifer, I've really enjoyed looking at your other posts and the post-apoc work you have done.

I know what you mean about large projects they can really take some effort to get across the line. If it's any consolation, I enjoy making aircraft kits (Tamiya, Airfix and the like) and I quite often burn out when they turn into larger projects - have a rather large 1:72 transport aircraft that I've been working on for almost a year, and I'll come back to it, perhaps do some for a few weeks, then run out of steam and it goes back on the shelf for a while. It is just getting the enthusiasm to finish it, but eventually think you get onto a good run and will get it finished.

About the Enclave, I have a gaming colleague who is waiting eagerly for them too - definitely think they are going to be a popular faction!

Cheers for the comment about the Scorpion - it was a really nice little miniature for just £5, I tried to paint a kind of natural camouflage (as though it has evolved living amongst rusted metal) - although I don't want to think about why it would need the camouflage and what kind of creature would be hunting it!

Right now I'm finishing off some miniatures for a board game (another project!) but have just received some of the lovely Badroll Games punks so looking forward to adding those to my Raider faction. I'm going to photoshop miniature images into copies of the character cards, so these can be printed off and used as with the other standard Raider minis.
I've also got hold of some post-apoc terrain from TT Combat and plan to add a few official Fallout accessories, so that it fits the theme.

Yeah, I used this week to get the centerpiece for my Star Wars Legion Rebel army done (technically I'm still a few splashed of varnish away from finishing it, but I can't post and work at the same time ). Ideas for Fallout models have been swirling around in my head again and if I'm lucky they'll survive the Bolt Action game I've scheduled for tomorrow. So many distractions!

So hopefully that bodes well for Mr Prime, but maybe a character or two to get in the right mood might be cool, too. I mean, it's kind of silly but I have had a half-painted Lancer on my desk for at least as long as Prime. You'd think I'd be able to paint one skinny little girl...

Oh, with Modiphius's new motivational initiative I may find something else to do, too. Got to have a look at the scenario and see if inspiration strikes.

About those Radscorpions, clearly Bethesda wants them to be ambush predators. I imagine good camouflage is handy even if you don't have anything big and bad to fear. Though to be fair, Yao Guai and Deathclaw seem like they'd appreciate the odd crunchy meal, so it's not all sunshine and lollipops even for the biggest and meanest Radscorpions out there.

I've painted the same model myself, but I really want to try emulating the Fallout 4 color scheme on Modiphius's Radscorpion. I thought those nice browns accentuated with orange looked really cool. I used somewhat suitable colors on the Reaper one, but didn't achieve half the effect from the video game model. Maybe with my more advanced painting skills and a model that matches the original I may now be able to do a better job.

I'm looking forward to those Raiders. Can never have too many or varied of them. It's really a cool faction. Love to see terrain, too.

So, motivated by the imminent release* of "Into The Wasteland" I decided to get my FWW / FWW RPG Campaign framework into a PDF format so that it can be shared. I expect the document will be full of consistency issues (word capitalised here, not capitalised there) but I would greatly appreciate feedback on the structure and flow of the campaign system. Ultimately it will be a campaign in it's own right but for now it only includes a few missions which are linked to the settlement events table (the campaign weeks are planned out, it's just a matter of slogging through the photoshop work for the maps!). Anyway, here it is.

Grauvasser At Swordpoint

* I have a thing about people thinking I've copied someone else's work which is why I really wanted to get this out before Into The Wasteland, just in case there are any similarities

Very cool Siygess, looks really interesting. Will have a proper read over the weekend!

I guess I should post some stuff here. Some of you may have seen this on Facebook or DCM Hobby Competition. This is about 3 months worth of work. I have most of the pics in spoiler tags to save people having to wade through a bunch but a few will be outside of those.

First off is the Rad-wich shop from Lootgames. I had to make some doors for it as they didn't come with any. You can find them on my Thingiverse. I'm not a huge fan of the sign, both how I painted it but how big it is. I should have printed it about half size but I think I'll put up some scaffolding behind it or something as it's pretty wobbly and I don't want to glue it down as it's too tall to really store attacked. Outside of that it's a fun design. I printed out a lot of interior parts from M3Studios, you'll see a lot from Jean here. He's got some good stuff.





The booth is removable for game play purposes as well as to easily change the theme of the bulding. It's attacked to some transparent vinyl. I've moved on from the vinyl to using some clear plastic from binders (acatate maybe?) as it's sturdier and thinner but a lot more expensive (but still pennies). The skeletons are from Desktop Hero3d which is like Heroforge but it's not as advanced. However their business model I like better as it's you buy content packs and then all the STL downloads are free. I think Skeletons with no clothes are free to anyone, haven't checked though as only close are in the asset packs. All races I believe are free.



Next up is the Bus Station set from M3Studios. First off are the bus and bus stations (with roads from printable scenery).



The bus interiors are swappable by being glue to plastic.



And I set up some preservation pods/Personal Fallout shelters. Their tops can be removed and are the diameter of a token from FWW so you can use them as objectives. I like to cover the tokens if if doesn't affect gameplay (ie advancing between numbered ones in a specific order). Just a tad bit more fun to say you're interacting with the shelter and then to take the token out of it.




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Next up is the rest of the bus set from M3Studios with the bus station and ticket booth.





Interior is mostly removable in this one too. With the bathrooms removable for playability and to change the theme. The benches and phone are removable as well. All the doors are on plastic tabs with notches to all me to put them in closed or open.



The ticket booth has some covered benches and a departure sign. Not sure on the graphic I made but I didn't really have the drive to do something else.



It has an interior but it's all glued in.


Finally a shot of what's in the set on a 4'x4' board. There are some robot pods and streetlights from M3Studios too as well as a trailer from Lootgames and some models from the game made printable. The tiles are my designs.



I'm going to next work on some buildings, kind of a main street feel, then do occupied/raider interiors and get gangways and such between things but before that I've got some stuff for Elder Scrolls to paint up.

That's a great looking set of terrain - and a fantastic table to game on!

Seconded! That does look like it would be so much fun to play Monkeysloth!

That is an excellent idea with the skeletons in the canteen and in other places, am definitely going to steal that one if you don't mind

The roads look great too - are those ones you have printed yourself or bought as prints?

Thanks. I really don't have much of a broader plan when working on terrain, so I was happy they looked decent together. Obviously since that's a larger table then you play FWW on things would be a bit more condensed but I still need some scatter and LOS breaking pieces so I do have a bunch of fences and barricades to paint up that I've printed. I just having starting painting yet as most are made up of random junk so there's lots of different things to paint which always slows down the process.

 Pacific wrote:

The roads look great too - are those ones you have printed yourself or bought as prints?

The ones near the top with the bus? Those are from PrintableScenery. I printed them but I know they have 3d party print farms that sell their stuff. Website probably has a list.

Monkeysloth, that bus station set up is truly outstanding! Super inspirational!

Had my holiday plans canceled due to a COVID scare so I decided to break out the Instant Paints from Scale Color and get some things I've been holding off painting for a bit.

First off are some death claws (PVC and Resin). My phone camera isn't super awesome and had lots of issues getting good photos of these, and my nicer camera isn't power on, which is pretty sad as these look pretty great for about 20 min of painting each (and about 30 min of drying as instant paints really can take a while to dry). There are two versions, in the spoilers, where the green scales are darker (pvc) and greener (resin) based off of the undercoat. Not sure which one I like best. There is also some dry brushing over the top for the final highlight and the claws/teeth are contrast paints and a wash.







Also painted up the official Radscorpions that I managed to grab one of the few times they were in stock. I wasn't quite sure what color scheme I wanted to use, and combination of instant colors and undercoats but I know I wanted more of a tan look vs the charcoal/red look in FO4. Just preference more then anything. So I grabbed a bunch of scorpions from Monolith's Conan boardgame and painted them up in different styles, also played around with some Mirelurk base colors too, and these are in the next spoiler.





Also painted up the giant Radscorpion which is a model from Mierce. I did this as a bit redder then the other ones as the undercoat and quite pleased with it though it was surprisingly annoying to drybrush on the top of the body which I wasn't expecting. Just glad that makeup brushes are very good and consistent in behavior when using them. This beast is planned for use in the eventual RPG I'll be running.

Anyone tried playing this Game?

I've only played a few matches and the combat and core rules are good. They are solid, but I find creating a force in Battle Mode very confusing with the amount of customisation from cards (and how often they update them) and stuff. All I want is a survivor crew with a Lone Survivor in T-34 Power Armour and a Sentry Bot to start off with.

I also find the amount of symbols very overwhelming too with so much going on, I'm having a hard time trying to keep track of everything.

I only have the starter set and Survivors Core box. Planning on getting some more Minutemen for Preston and a Robot faction.

Yes but Narrative mode, which is actually worse for customization. Most people will tell you to just buy into the app which makes building lists very easy but it's not needed once you do it a few times as the option paralysis eventually goes away as you get use to knowing what you need. Really not any worse then other games with very customizable force lists except you have the cards.

They do love their symbols in this game and agree it's hard to keep track of everything. There was a qustion on the FB group the other day about a fire icon on some enclave armor and the accepted answer was that it's a chance to resist fire damage by flipping the fire status token and that the rule wasn't written down anywhere public but it was in the playtest kit.

I think the weapon cards are the the biggest offenders with the icons and really shift the game from less causal to more lifestyle to keep track of all of them unless you want to buy everything digitally via the app that could go away at any time the developer, who's freelance and I don't believe Modpihius owns the code, decides to walk away.

They really need a nice quick reference for the game. One for perks, one for weapon symbols, one for status symbols and one for armor and other effects. The Elderscrolls game, which is much simpler then FWW, has official ones and fan make ones that are great and really speed things up. Why Fallout doesn't have the same I don't know.

Yeah I hear ya! I just found factions confusing and who goes where (outside of the obvious).

All I wanted was a Sentry Bot and a Lone Wanderer with T-45 Power Armour with a Super Sledge backed up by Minute men but it looks like I can't do that in battle mode?

It just looks very overwhelming with the mixture of choices and the app helps a bit but its certainly missing bits or parts that doesn't really help.

I feel the game just needs a complete Streamline as right now it's weighed down from so many icons and tokens that makes it hard to feel the flow of the game.

 The Warp Forge wrote:
Yeah I hear ya! I just found factions confusing and who goes where (outside of the obvious).

All I wanted was a Sentry Bot and a Lone Wanderer with T-45 Power Armour with a Super Sledge backed up by Minute men but it looks like I can't do that in battle mode?

It just looks very overwhelming with the mixture of choices and the app helps a bit but its certainly missing bits or parts that doesn't really help.

I feel the game just needs a complete Streamline as right now it's weighed down from so many icons and tokens that makes it hard to feel the flow of the game.

Battlemode is very locked down for competitive play. Narrative mode, which has a VS mode in addition to solo/co-op, allows for almost anything. Basically as long as there's not a rule against it (Supermutants wearing power armor for example) you can really do any combinations.

I don't know if it needs a streamline to be honest, though you can see an example of what that would look like in Elder Scrolls, as FWW is very much the game the designer wants and it's very playable though overwhelming at fist as it's not presented in a easy to pick up and play way with important rules in the campaign book, like force building, that should have been in the core rule book. I think if they would have had point costs printed in a separate sheet just for the starter box to get people use to what to do, and have there be a guide to build a basic settler vs super mutant game, when people jumped to downloading the full lists it wouldn't be a daunting. That would just leave the big time sink of looking up icons which right now the App is a crutch for the company and fans as the response is always saying "just get the app" (which means rebuying everything if you have the cards) instead of providing a solution that can be used by anyone.

Yeah, but even the app can be confusing. For example in Battle Mode I can still select the build-a-bot options there but I can't do that in that mode right? Same goes with event cards and drawing a hand? I thought was was just for campaign play but I can do that in the app? So it's easy to get lost in an already overwhelming volume of rules for this game.

Little things like that build up and throw me off consistently questioning what I can and can't use in the mode.

One of the issues with the app is that, as I mentioned earlier, it's just one guy doing this in his spare time. He's not gotten to the build a robot stuff fully done. Part of that also might be that Battlemode doesn't support that yet either as John hasn't finished it.

If you look at the battle mode build lists you'll see there isn't one for Robots yet.

https://www.modiphius.com/fallout-battlemode-downloads.html

Event cards aren't used in Battle mode, only narrative. Page 2 of the battle mode rules gives a list of cards not used. I don't know how well that app differentiates between Narrative and Battle outside of force building as I don't use it. But I wouldn't be surprised if it just kind of expects you to know what you can and cannot due during the game you're playing. So it's not enforcing rules outside of list building and not a replacement for the rulebook.

Other's here use it I believe so they might be able to give better answers.

Last of the end of the year time off paint-a-thon with a completed set of Mirelurks (minus the queen who doesn't want to assemble due to poor intake/vent placement by the caster). I decided to go with the studio paint job even though the blue and orange only appears, as far as I can tell, as coloring in the Fog Crawler concept art. But the blues really looked good to me so I copied it mostly except for the purple orange combo on the Hunters as it didn't do anything for me--so I changed it up a bit. I've got another set of Mirelurks coming next year and will paint them up as softshells and will eventually get the queen done as I probably have another 30-45 min of sanding to get anything to look decent on her. Overall I really like how they look but assembly on some of these were a pain due to how they were molded (hunters were bad) and the sprues connecting at highly detailed areas or right were a joint was covering up the shape of it.

Camera on the phone still sucks so there's some over saturated and washed out photos here. The hunters, though, are about how the look in person so there's that.

Very nice finish to the year Monkeysloth - I like the terrain set you have created as well, lovely shade of turquoise/blue

Monkeysloth, even if you are not 100% happy with the pics, those Mirelurks look truly awesome. Good job!