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You might have a hard time getting games with such a model.

p5freak wrote:

 yakface wrote:


But if you don't understand the concept of how rules are constructed and you improperly assume that 'if the rules don't say I can't do something then I can do it', then you'll think you can put all your characters onto Knight-sized bases to increase their aura range and you'll believe that there is nothing anyone can do to stop you from this. But this is wrong. The rules don't technically giver permission for base swapping or conversions, so anytime you do this, you're essentially relying on the graciousness of your opponent to understand and agree with what you've done with your army.

I dont find anything about the rules being permissive, neither in the rules, nor in the FAQs. Thats pure speculation on you part. Anyway, i have emailed GW about base size, and i have a response from them. They make the rules, what they say counts. You can use any base size you want. Its legal to put a character on a knight sized base.

I suspect strongly that GW doesn't care even a little bit about the integrity of the rules so long as you're buying models.

Customer: Hey, GW, can I change the base size for this model I bought?
GW: You bought a model, you say?
Customer: Um... yeah. So, can I change the base size?
GW: Yeah, sure. Whatever. It's just a game. Keep buying stuff.

I can't give you an answer in ranks, but with 25mm bases and perfect tesselation 48 models can fight a single other guy. Rough illustration below, blue is the guy being attacked, green is within an inch of him, orange within an inch of those within an inch. Grey can't fight. I don't know what this unit is with its 57 models. Maybe poxwalkers.

Drager wrote:
I can't give you an answer in ranks, but with 25mm bases and perfect tesselation 48 models can fight a single other guy. Rough illustration below, blue is the guy being attacked, green is within an inch of him, orange within an inch of those within an inch. Grey can't fight. I don't know what this unit is with its 57 models. Maybe poxwalkers.

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Yes.. but.. using geometry is cheating and doesn't allow much room for a counter argument.
Also, those hexagons look a lot like concripts.

Actually, I made a slight mistake that expands it to all 57, so you counter argument possible by noticing I messed up the maths. Spotted it by looking at the picture, then corrected my calculation.


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AnFéasógMór wrote:


Also, by your logic, I could put a squad of Stormcast Eternals, some of the old Dark Eldar "slave girl" models, and Theodan on the table, and demand to be allowed to play an open play match of 40k with them, because technically the rules say "you can literally just pick any Citadel miniatures you have and start playing". Obviously, a reasonable person would assume that this meant models specifically intended to play 40k with, and which have a datasheet written for the 40k rules, but per your logic, what people might infer or deduce from what is or isn't written in the rules doesn't matter, only what GW explicitly gives permission for, and they do say I can use any use any Citadel miniature.

You can play with any Citadel model - haven't you heard of "counts as" armies? That's what people have done with squats (and dwarves converted to squats) since they lost their rules, or for when people were making things like Adeptus Mechanicus armies in the editions before there were rules for the Adeptus Mechanicus (they even had an article in White Dwarf about one of their people converting models to an Adeptus Mechanicus army using the old Lost and the Damned list.) If their figures had been 28 mm scale instead of 25mm scale, I would have used the old Citadel figures for Cybermen from their Doctor Who range and used them as Necrons (build a floating platform for one with a weapon on it to represent Destroyers, etc.).


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p5freak wrote:

 yakface wrote:

p5freak wrote:
There is no official ruling on base size. You can use any base you want. If your models come with 32mm, change it to 25mm, if you want. Its legal. Put your character on a 160mm base, its legal.

That's not how rules work (they're permissive). The rules don't say you can change base size, so you can't. The rules assume you're playing with the models (including the bases) that GW sells you.

You are wrong. I emailed GW, and this is what they said :

many thanks for your email.

A couple of years ago we decided to give the Space Marine miniatures 32mm bases as we though they would suit them better, however as there is no official rule from Games Workshop on what bases a miniature has to be placed on you can choose on which to base them, theoretically you could have your entire Space Marine Army on 60mm bases. This is up to you.

I hope this answers your question and if you have any further queries then do not hesitate to contact us.

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So you wouldn't have a problem if I ran a unit of grots, and I used a Frisbee as the base for each grot?

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So you wouldn't have a problem if I ran a unit of grots, and I used a Frisbee as the base for each grot?

Not at all. Good luck deploying your army within your deployment zone.