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You have my sympathy - no matter the game, it seems like when it goes from casual friends playing a narrative to competitors struggling to win, all sense of restraint goes out the window.

Thankfully, I feel like we see less of this in AOS than in 40k, maybe because the game started in a place where you couldn't actually play it competitively, due to the absence of points. As those elements have been added in we've gained a lot in this game, but it does make it more attractive to TFG too.

Yeah, but you can also sympathize for them, as who knows how they do in 40k, maybe this is where they get to feel like winners. We all know Quirk from MWG doesn't do too good at 40k, but when I came into the studio for a game, he went very competitive with a spider riders list, I kinda just let it happen, cause I figured he needed that win.

DJ Squidley wrote:
Yeah, but you can also sympathize for them, as who knows how they do in 40k, maybe this is where they get to feel like winners. We all know Quirk from MWG doesn't do too good at 40k, but when I came into the studio for a game, he went very competitive with a spider riders list, I kinda just let it happen, cause I figured he needed that win.

I dont know much about how 40k is but someone else in the store said he was the same way in 40k and that the dude plays Eldar very competitively.

You're going to encounter serious tournamnet players at tournaments though. Its to be expected.

Last saturday there was a qualifier ITC thing for 40k and two guys got nose to nose and very heated over one of the guys slow-playing on purpose to win the game and deny the other player a final turn.

Nose-to-nose.

One of the last tournaments I went to had a table flipped. Thats one reason why I tend to avoid those environments now a days.

The fact that it happens doesn't make it acceptable behavior. The TO/store owner should have immediately disqualified both players in the nose-to-nose situation, and the table flipper should have been banned from the store. Those are just childish behaviors. You want to know why gamers have gained a reputation as overly emotional man-babies? Here you go.

I agree. The nose-to-nose situation did not end in disqualification.

The table flipper to my knowledge was never seen again.

These kind of people are why I don't travel to random tournament(but I'd probably play a local store tournament if held since I'd know most of the people).

Wow I'm seriously glad that even the worst offenders at local AoS tourneys for me aren't nearly that bad. Of course it's AoS so I imagine people come in not taking it as seriously (because really, competitive AoS should not be taken seriously).

 bsharitt wrote:
These kind of people are why I don't travel to random tournament(but I'd probably play a local store tournament if held since I'd know most of the people).

These types of things are so rare they're basically myths. I've been to dozens of tournaments and I've only ever even heard of 1 game get heated enough to require intervention and all they did was call over the judge and the judge decided to sit in on the rest of the game with them.

ERJAK wrote:

 bsharitt wrote:
These kind of people are why I don't travel to random tournament(but I'd probably play a local store tournament if held since I'd know most of the people).

These types of things are so rare they're basically myths. I've been to dozens of tournaments and I've only ever even heard of 1 game get heated enough to require intervention and all they did was call over the judge and the judge decided to sit in on the rest of the game with them.

Well, that's your opinion. Many, many others don't share it.

I played serious tournament play for a solid ten years. While tournaments were a great time overall, pretty much every tournament I played in for 10 years had several "that guys" present, and one of my games inevitably would match me up against one.

So no... they aren't myths or super rare. There were always a small handful of those personalities in the hall, and if two of them were pitted against each other there were some minor fireworks.

 auticus wrote:
I played serious tournament play for a solid ten years. While tournaments were a great time overall, pretty much every tournament I played in for 10 years had several "that guys" present, and one of my games inevitably would match me up against one.

So no... they aren't myths or super rare. There were always a small handful of those personalities in the hall, and if two of them were pitted against each other there were some minor fireworks.

Are the 'that guys' the same guys, or are they on rotation?

When I played tournaments I played across the country and were playing pretty much all new people each tournament, these were a variety of people.

I've done the same thing for 40k for almost 2 decades now and I've had the opposite experience auticus. I think a lot of it also comes down to your personality to though OT. I tend to be a pretty relaxed guy so my "that guy" is probably different from yours or auticus or ninth.

Thats true. We all have different thresholds and opinions of what "that guy" is.

A "that guy" to me is someone that argues rules the entire time, is very confrontational / unfriendly during the game, and is in general a very poor sport that uses excessive profanity when the dice don't go his way, hurls models into their case or throws dice against the wall when they don't go their way, etc.

Put two of that type of person at the same table and its usually always going to have some drama fireworks come out of it.

The exception was the guy that actually flipped the table at one of the last tournaments I went to. He didn't say a word the entire time, didn't really argue, just didn't seem to have any social presence at all. He failed a bunch of dice rolls midway through the day, stood up, flipped the table, grabbed his coat and bag and walked out of the hall (and left his rulebooks and models scattered on the floor)

Huh, that would have been interesting to see

As for your definition I agree but it does go to show how even people with the same basic view have run into far different people who trip that trigger.

Yeah.

It wasn't the majority of my opponents. But every grand tournament, one of my six games was going to be against one pretty much guaranteed every time.