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Pilum wrote: So - we have archer gorgons.
We have harpies.
Skeletons are a given..
Anyone know of a decent Talos-esque statue model so I can go full-on Harryhausen?
Also liking the Slannesh references and content, its setting up to lead quite nicely toward a larger fully Slannesh focused release in the near future. Also it seems that this big release will be the last big one before things return to the world of 40K and pushing out more codex.
Also liking the Slannesh references and content, its setting up to lead quite nicely toward a larger fully Slannesh focused release in the near future. Also it seems that this big release will be the last big one before things return to the world of 40K and pushing out more codex.
But BoLS insisted Slannesh has been squatted.
Now sure, they've no evidence for that. And they certainly don't appear to have actually read any of the background.....
But they don't just make stuff up. Not BoLS. Nope. Not them. Or Spikeybits.
The next thing, you'll be claiming they plunder pics and info plundered from the internet and their own forum, then give the credit not to me, who took the pics and got the info, but one of their mates, including links to his website where he's passing my pics and info off as his own....
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I really hope whoever sculpted the snake version gets to work on a dragon. The wings and tail section scream that whoever did would make one epic and fantastic dragon model!
Really looking forward to the fluff with these galls. I wonder if Sigmar knows what Morathi is up to? I could see him turning a blind eye while the DoK are useful, and he might consider Morathi as a full deity a better option than Khaine getting resurrected for real.
GoatboyBeta wrote: Really looking forward to the fluff with these galls. I wonder if Sigmar knows what Morathi is up to? I could see him turning a blind eye while the DoK are useful, and he might consider Morathi as a full deity a better option than Khaine getting resurrected for real.
Most likely, sigmar is a rather pragmatic god since he sought an alliance with nagash also he was ignoring all the portents because he thought they were not a big deal until Vandus told him they were. XD
It makes the name a bit weird for me. I'd like some expansion on the idea of DoK who don't like Morathi. It's a bit boring when factions seem free of dissent.
tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam
Well the video certainly says there is some dissent, just that when anyone questions it openly they tend to wind up rather dead or vanished.
But like any major factor the faction itself, at its core, is unified. Which makes sense as you can't really field a single army when the faction behind it is totally split down the middle and is in full civil war (esp when it has to wage war on everyone else).
The overarching story, eh, my feeling is that it will either end with Morathi winning or at least not losing - ergo preserving the faction and her huge model; or she'll lose but wind up controlled by Khaine or otherwise still bound to the faction as a whole. Of course if they prove super unpopular they could be written out (doubtful) or if they are super popular split into two factions (possible but at this stage unlikely unless elves wind up as popular as space marines).
I'm honestly surprised we've not seen other aelf models brought into the faction videos and displays. With all three elf groups basically souped together one could imagine that they could poach models from each group to buff up a new faction grouping for each one. As it stands I just hope that the Daughters of Khain are going to clean up the dark elf units. Linking up the various groups and basically rebuilding them as a viable faction once more (Darkling Covens, Scourge Privateers, Order Serpentis, Shadowblades).
Honestly my fanlore has weird magic affecting everyone so I'll probably use that to make Daughters of Khaine much more anti Morathi if I start an army of them.
tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam
Its a shame the handlers and crews for the War Hydra/Kharibdyss and the DE chariot are not on separate sprues that could have been swapped out for DoK versions.
A good photo of the new nagas and some details too.
For those who don't know the bloody looking green one in the background is the snake woman off the Blood Cauldron kit placed onto a base instead of onto the Throne.
A neat "crystal turning" ability and they sound like they are aimed at being elite choices rather than front-line grunts.
And tomorrow is the turn of the Khinerai (harpies)
A good photo of the new nagas and some details too.
For those who don't know the bloody looking green one in the background is the snake woman off the Blood Cauldron kit placed onto a base instead of onto the Throne.
A neat "crystal turning" ability and they sound like they are aimed at being elite choices rather than front-line grunts.
And tomorrow is the turn of the Khinerai (harpies)
It does mention that there is a general choice (presumably an adaptation of the Blood Cauldron Medusae?) that will make the CC version Battleline.
So it sounds like you'll be able to make a pretty elite DoK army if you go that route.
The Heartrenders are a ranged hit-run unit with wings; so basically acting like mounted cavalry; darting in and out to swipe at a distance at foes
Lifetakers are however a close combat focused unit; swooping in to slash at the enemy.
They are akin to much faster and deep-striking style medusa models. I'm wiling to bet that the medusa versions hit harder, but that the Khinerai are much faster. It will be interesting to see how they work with the cavalry that they have access too. The Doomfire Warlocks are already confirmed so it will be interesting to see if the Dark Riders also feature in the army formally.
I do like the Heartrenders ability to shoot then have a chance to move again. Against an opposing list with not a lot of shooting that has possibilities.
It's an ideal move for a hit-run unit to have, esp if its a fragile unit. One of the worst things is a hit-run ranged unit that can't escape from near to its target after it attacks. It gives the unit a chance to be more than just a one-use glass cannon.
I'm willing to bet it means that they are very easily killed if they get into combat so the might well be a tricky unit to use right, but hopefully one of those units where when it works it works well to deliver a good surgical punch.
There's a lot of focus on buff/debuff with the spells and prayers they've shown. Less magical damage and more magical augmentation of your units on show; though I'm sure there will be a few damage spells in there too for good measure in the full release.
It also cements the Bloodwrack Medusae and Slaughter Queens as key units in the army. Though I doubt that they'll be splitting those units off from the combined kit that they come on (and a slight shame that the avatar is going to used from that same kit as his open arms pose is rather static/statue style for combat).
It will be odd having three or four character units that are not sold outside of a combined war-weapon kit.
Lots of stuff has also vanished from the GW store as of right now so that speaks of them updating their listings!
Aye but I'd bet Dwarves will beat Daughters both in ranged and close combat long term. Daughters appear to be a very "glass cannon" style faction. They'll hit hard when they hit, but won't have the power to last a long slogging match.
Also the New Zealand website is updated with the release!
Essentials - Battletome - Warscroll Cards - Dice
Morathi
Battletome (physical and digital)
Warscroll Cards
Dice (seriously why does EVERY faction except Tyranids get their own dice - what did Nids do!)
Witch Aelves\Sisters of Slaughter
Doomfire Warlocks/Dark Riders
Bloodwrack Shrine/Hag Queen on Cauldron/Slaughter Queen on Cauldron
Curiously there's no limited edition codex listed (unless that only gets listed on the UK site which won't be live for a while yet). There's also no getting started kit and it would appear that the medusa and harpies will be next week releases.
Also the Daughters of Khaine Blood Coven kit (daughters and war engine kit with discount) isn't featured, though its still listed on the main listing page.
Overall its a shame that they've tied all the mages into the Cauldron kit, I suspect those being broken up on ebay will be popular as will the combined kit with daughters to form the core of an army. Then again this is Age of Sigmar rather than Fantasy so gamers won't need rank and file Daughters in great number like was once needed.
Also trying to work out the one missing unit from the army, the blurb for the Handbook says that there are 16 warscrolls for the units in the army which corresponds too:
1 Khinerai Heartrenders
2 Khinerai Lifetakers
3 Blood Sisters
4 Blood Stalkers
5 Hag Queens
6 Slaughter Queen
7 Bloodwrack Medusa
8 Morathi High Oracle of Khaine
9 Morathi Shadow Queen
10 Cauldron of Blood
11 Bloodwrack Shrine
12 Witch Aelves
13 Sisters of Slaughter
14 Doomfire Warlocks
15 Avatar of Khaine
Right now I can only assume that the Cauldron of Blood might have been split into two warscrolls - one for the hag queen one for the slaughter queen. Otherwise there's the chance that it could be Dark Riders from the Warlock kit (though odd that its not shown on its own, although the Dark Riders do seem to be missing from the Shadowblades tab where they once were.
Kind of a shame that they've apparently not brought either of the huge Hyrda creatures into the army.
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Aye they've listed the Blood Cauldron on the website under two listings - one for each rider (Hag queen and Slaughter queen). So it could be that they've given each of those cauldrons a different listing and thus their own warscroll.
It just seems odd that in a race which had the hydra before and in a new faction that is focused on snakes and harpies, not to have at least one variation of the hydra unit added into it. It would seem to be the ideal home for it (or at least one of the homes for it).
Then again if they are going to make the remaining Dark Elf units into one or two other armies in their own right then it might be that they left the hydra out so that the other army had something that wasn't just basic troops
I guess my main concern is that GW will spread the Sigmar Wartomes out so think by splitting armies up that they end up with a large range of armies, way larger than before, which makes it hard for them to ever keep them updated with new releases/rules. I really hope after they finish 40K this year, that they can turn to tidying up and giving Sigmar some better attention.
I'd hate to see Sigmar turn into a situation in a few years where they are considering dropping more armies or combining armies and dropping models to consolidate things (even though we've got the grand alliances as a means of consolidation already).
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
