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 Theophony wrote:
Are there any other colors your looking for to match up?

Is this list up to date (last edited 4th March)

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/743454.page

I might have some of them somewhere

I'm sure I've got a fair few of those too

WobblyGoblin

Hi there, we're sorry to hear that you found the website off putting, it wasn't an adblocker that caused it, we had a major issue on our website a few weeks ago and we thought we had everything fixed, but as you pointed out, the search menu had gone.

This has now been fixed and is now available again so you can now filter by colour, we hope that you'll revisit the website again soon

We're looking at new ones as the four that we released have been far more popular than we imagined them to be!

We have considered sending the paints out to some of the youtube channels, but we want the brand to become a bit more established first before we head down that route, thanks for the suggestion though!

Thank you as well for the feedback, it's great to hear and when our secret project is complete, we're sure it will please a lot of painters

DaveC

I believe it could be yes

Theophony[user]

At the moment we are focusing more on the Vintage line at the moment as it is proving extremely popular compared to the others, at the moment we're in the process of adding more from the Foundation Paint line and some from the 1998 era of paints around every two weeks. As mentioned above, we're also looking at other colour shifting metallics as well and we'll probably add some more colours to the flagship line as well in the next couple of months from the Citadel layer Range.


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DaveC wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Are there any other colors your looking for to match up?

Is this list up to date (last edited 4th March)

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/743454.page

I might have some of them somewhere

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:I'm sure I've got a fair few of those too

That is the most up to date list at the moment, we're getting through them but it's taking time so it's always worth keeping an eye on here, Facebook and Twitter to see which ones we have released.

what size of swatch do you need if I've got something to contribute?

and what colour (white/black/grey) would you prefer it to be painted on?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
what size of swatch do you need if I've got something to contribute?

and what colour (white/black/grey) would you prefer it to be painted on?

At least a 2x2 cm square should suffice with about 4 thick layers of paint, this will ensure there is no leakage from the carrier material when we do our analysis. We normally apply it white card and we’ve never had any problems with it though Plasticard or even A4 paper works, the most important thing is the thickness of the layers, any leakage of the material (you can tell this by shining a single led letting torch under it) will result in a different colour being analysed.

The only other thing is that we would need the name of the paint and which pot it came from I.e crystal hex jar, white hex jar, flip top etc written on the back of the card

If you do have something, send us a PM and we’ll let you know where to send them

I placed an order a few weeks ago, and have been trying a few Instar paints out on a recent project:



The dark grey used for the armour here is from Instar's Vintage range; their equivalent to the much-lamented Charadon Granite, one of my favourite paints. In terms of hue, it's not quite identical to the dregs of Charadon Granite I've hoarded in my last pot, but it's much closer in hue than GW's nearest replacement, Skavenblight Dinge.

In terms of coverage, the Vintage range doesn't quite have the body of the Foundations, but on the other hand, requires less dilution; so it's all a bit swings-and-roundabouts on that front.

Overall, I'm very happy with them – Instar have given me back some of my favourite colours! – and am looking forward to their range expanding.

And just to clarify by crystal jar do you mean the hexagonal pots that were made to look like a bolter shell - as I have 6 of them on your current list.

 DaveC wrote:
And just to clarify by crystal jar do you mean the hexagonal pots that were made to look like a bolter shell - as I have 6 of them on your current list.

They are the exact ones!


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 Apologist wrote:
I placed an order a few weeks ago, and have been trying a few Instar paints out on a recent project:



The dark grey used for the armour here is from Instar's Vintage range; their equivalent to the much-lamented Charadon Granite, one of my favourite paints. In terms of hue, it's not quite identical to the dregs of Charadon Granite I've hoarded in my last pot, but it's much closer in hue than GW's nearest replacement, Skavenblight Dinge.

In terms of coverage, the Vintage range doesn't quite have the body of the Foundations, but on the other hand, requires less dilution; so it's all a bit swings-and-roundabouts on that front.

Overall, I'm very happy with them – Instar have given me back some of my favourite colours! – and am looking forward to their range expanding.

We still love this picture

Thank you as always for the feedback, we’re always reviewing the colours so we can get them as close as we can to the original shades

How does your Antique Bronze compare to Citadel's Brass Scorpion? I'm using it as the base armour colour for my Minotaurs Space Marines, but as it's a metal colour it's hard to thin enough so it doesn't dry within a few seconds of putting it on a brush...

So your paints being a bit more thinned made me think I might be able to replace some, assuming it's close enough

RejjeN wrote:
How does your Antique Bronze compare to Citadel's Brass Scorpion? I'm using it as the base armour colour for my Minotaurs Space Marines, but as it's a metal colour it's hard to thin enough so it doesn't dry within a few seconds of putting it on a brush...

So your paints being a bit more thinned made me think I might be able to replace some, assuming it's close enough

I can have a look later on today and let you know how close it is, but being brass it’s likely that it’s going to be pretty much similar!

I placed a tester order of four colours recently. Having had a chance to try the paints out, I've written a review, which you can read on Death of a Rubricist here.

If you don't fancy going off-site, the long and the short is that aside from a few minor niggles, the paints are good-quality and come recommended. Perhaps the best compliment I can pay Instar is that I'll be placing another order based on the first batch I received!

RejjeN wrote:
How does your Antique Bronze compare to Citadel's Brass Scorpion? I'm using it as the base armour colour for my Minotaurs Space Marines, but as it's a metal colour it's hard to thin enough so it doesn't dry within a few seconds of putting it on a brush...

So your paints being a bit more thinned made me think I might be able to replace some, assuming it's close enough

Hi there, we took a look and it’s darker being a bronze rather than brass, apologies for that, however we are always adding to the range so it’s worth keeping an eye on us to see when we add our new colours, best places are this thread, our Facebook page or twitter.

Well Brass Scorpion used to be called Dwarf Bronze so I'm not sure if it's ACTUALLY brass (If it is it's a very dark brass), which is why I drybrush it with a different lighter metal paint.

Either way, that's a shame. I'll keep an eye on your range though, some interesting things in there that I might look into getting in the future already

Do you have a photo of a mini painted with your metalic red ? I've not yet found one that look red rather than magenta/pinkish.

Generally speaking, I think that it would be better if every color had a photo displaying it on a mini rather that just a digital image.

RejjeN wrote:Well Brass Scorpion used to be called Dwarf Bronze so I'm not sure if it's ACTUALLY brass (If it is it's a very dark brass), which is why I drybrush it with a different lighter metal paint.

Either way, that's a shame. I'll keep an eye on your range though, some interesting things in there that I might look into getting in the future already

Sorry about that, but thank you for still being interested in the range, means a lot

Samko wrote:Do you have a photo of a mini painted with your metalic red ? I've not yet found one that look red rather than magenta/pinkish.

Generally speaking, I think that it would be better if every color had a photo displaying it on a mini rather that just a digital image.

We wholeheartedly agree and this question has been asked elsewhere, we're currently getting some equipment so that we can record it as we're having trouble capturing it in a still image!

Is their any examples of the Radiant Red? I have not been able to mix a metallic red, and the only way I have achieved the effect is to layer clear paints over golds.

 Lockark wrote:
Is their any examples of the Radiant Red? I have not been able to mix a metallic red, and the only way I have achieved the effect is to layer clear paints over golds.

This was a quick test shot we did for someone who was interested, it was done over a white basecoat and took about 4 passes to get the coverage




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I received my order yesterday and while I won’t get a chance to use them for a week or 2 I did a quick comparison test.

First thing to note is don’t judge the colours in their wet state, I was concerned about the colour matching while they are wet the red brown in particular was no where near Mournfang brown but having dried overnight it’s now very close so don’t worry if the colour looks off straight out of the pot.

Cool Grey/Celestra Grey - very good match this was clear even when wet, as near as makes no difference.

IV06/Dheneb Stone this is the one I really wanted it gets used for lots of different things, when wet IV06 looks a bit greyer but dried it’s very close maybe a tiny bit lighter but I was using the dregs of a pot of Dheneb stone so it might just be that. Good replacement colour.

IV02/Charonite Granite again very close granite might just have a hint more brown.

IV03/Calthan Brown again a personal favourite colour I use a lot as I don’t like how a lot of other browns tend more towards the red end. IV03 looked lighter when wet but dried it’s a hint darker it’s very close though.

Red Brown/Mournfang brown as mentioned looks wrong when wet brighter and redder but dried very close.

Steel Grey/Mechanicus Standard Grey again close but Steel Grey looks a hint more blue.

Chocolate Brown/Rhinox Hide only one I’d say I’m disappointed with the colour is off Chocolate Brown is more muted and on the greyer side whilst Rhinox Hide has a richer brown, chocolate brown is more burnt chocolate.

Mud Brown/Steel Legion Drab - turns out my Steel Legion Drab has dried out so I can’t compare

The consistency and texture of the paint is good and I’m happy with it, I always thin foundation paints anyway so prethinned is good for me.

The child safe bottle tops take a little getting used too but the small nozzle is great for getting small amounts out. I’d agree with the previous reviewer re the labels they are too big to make eye balling a paint by colour easy.

Overall I’m very happy with what I got these are by far the best replacements for foundation paints on the market I know Vallejo tried to replicate them but didn’t really get close. Probably best to focus on the vintage range for now (please add Solar Macharius Orange soon )

I’ll be ordering more when the range increases.

PS I haven’t sent the paints yet not been near a post office hopefully by the weekend

Well I guess now that you added Macharius Solar Orange it would be rude of me not to order some

New additions today

IV-13 - Goblin Green 1998 Version
IV-14 - Vermin Brown 1998 Version
IV-15 - Dark Angels Green 1998 Version
IV-16 - Iyanden Darksun (Foundation)
IV-17 - Macharius Solar Orange (Foundation)

 DaveC wrote:
Well I guess now that you added Macharius Solar Orange it would be rude of me not to order some

New additions today

IV-13 - Goblin Green 1998 Version
IV-14 - Vermin Brown 1998 Version
IV-15 - Dark Angels Green 1998 Version
IV-16 - Iyanden Darksun (Foundation)
IV-17 - Macharius Solar Orange (Foundation)

Haha, you managed to get this up before i’d even mentioned anything!

Thank you for the order, love to see the model when it’s done

Hi everyone,

Just want to get the thoughts of the community on this but what if we supplied more than just paint but everything you need for miniature modelling I.e glue, brushes, cleaners etc?

Would this be of any interest?

Probably not glue (stuff from the pound shop works fine and while it may not keep as well as other brands the price is unbeatable)

Brushes, maybe? I tend to buy Roesemary & Co at the moment which gives me the best balance between quality and price but if I was putting in a paint order I'd give a kolinsky sable brush at a cheaper price a try

as for anything else, I might add to a paint order so it would be worth having the stuff there for folks

Competition is pretty tough, and I imagine experienced painters would already have and know where to get these materials.

Myself, I'd like to have more colored primers for the fantasy hobby market. Vallejo has several colored primers, but they're targeted towards the historical model market.

EDIT: Maybe painting figure holders with the arch, although GW's figure holders are cheap from the FLGS.

Glue seems like a natural addition to your line, and I certainly wouldn't object to the others unless they impact on your speed/postage etc. I don't think it'd make a huge difference to whether I'd place an order or not, but might encourage me to make an impulse addition to a purchase.

(While I'm writing, I don't think the links in your signature work, Supershandy. They highlight when hovered over, but nothing happens when I click them...)

How about brush cleaner soap? I’ve never tried any before, but I hear people have started to use it more, so might be an idea.

 Theophony wrote:
How about brush cleaner soap? I’ve never tried any before, but I hear people have started to use it more, so might be an idea.

TBH it's so much cheaper to get the soaps in bulk or in small amounts from any art supply store. "The Masters' Brush cleaner and preserver" is my preferred choice, and I can even order containers of it off amazon if I was to lazy to leave my house to get it. But I suely buy it from michaels Arts and crafts when I get a 40% off one item coupon.

I don't think it's a smart route to go down for them, when you have loss leaders in the market already selling the exact same product.

WRT soaps, I've got the smallest one that Masters do, and I fully expect it to outlive me. So unless you feel there's a market sufficiently large enough of people who haven't bought any before, want some and won't ever need to buy it again, it probably isn't worthwhile unless the markup is huge and the minimum order is relatively small.

With the Forgeworld paints going offline though, there's a whole new avenue opened up...

 Azreal13 wrote:
With the Forgeworld paints going offline though, there's a whole new avenue opened up...

I think we’ll have to check this one out, might have to wait a while for the dust to settle but it could be!

There's quite possibly room for improvement too. My experience with the range is limited, but the opacity of the ones I do have is terrible.

I appreciate they're intended for airbrush, and that's how I use them 95% of the time, but needing to apply multiple coats to correct even the tiniest bit of overspray is a PITA.

So we've finally managed to recreate the shades of all 18 colours of the Foundation range, though it has taken a while we're really proud that we've reached this milestone and it now allows us to focus on the 3rd,4th,5th and 6th edition range of paints.

We've received so much support and help with the Vintage project and we cannot thank everyone enough for all the donations they have sent us.

A bundle pack will be available soon of the entire range of recreated foundation paints.

In other news, we also have an orange and green metallic coming as well to extend the selection of colours on our Metallic line and allows for more interesting colour schemes for your armies!