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2018/02/25 19:47:58
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
Warhams-77 wrote: Yodhrin, we don't know anything about the storyline yet, do we?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Btw Has there been something in recent BL books leading to this?
If by "this" you mean "reasons for Necrons and AdMech clashing" in the fluff, there is some talks in the Dark Imperium novel and in the Adeptus Mechanicus Codex about Cawl trying to (re)create Black Pylons against the various Warp storms ruining the galaxy, using Necron and Eldar-Old Ones (!!!) tech - Yeah Cawl is that genius.
So that's why there is Necrons raids on Forge Worlds working with / for Cawl (nothing to do here with the Dragon / HH Mechanicum fluff, only with the Gathering Storms campaign).
"Cadia Stands" has them actually having gotten an intact Pylon off of Cadia.
Apparently, a group of Space Wolves were tasked with acquiring and saving one.
2018/02/25 20:49:14
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
I hope any new codex includes a special character Knight. We have had rules for two of them in the past few years, it would be nice to have them with 8th ed. rules.
2018/02/25 20:57:37
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
cuda1179 wrote: I hope any new codex includes a special character Knight. We have had rules for two of them in the past few years, it would be nice to have them with 8th ed. rules.
If anything, it'll be Gerantius who gets some rules.
cuda1179 wrote: I hope any new codex includes a special character Knight. We have had rules for two of them in the past few years, it would be nice to have them with 8th ed. rules.
If anything, it'll be Gerantius who gets some rules.
The Obsidian Knight would be nice too.
2018/02/25 21:16:11
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
ZebioLizard2 wrote: Would be nice to get that list from Horus Heresy which grants bonuses and the like for what they are considered, like Senschel or the newcomer sorts.
It would be worth using, if the Imperial Knights in this codex use a regular force org chart like the other armies.
The Scion Aspirant title would be useless though, fluffy but useless, not unless it also gives a point / power reduction on models like the FW list does.
It will be interesting to see how GW will tackle this army using the force organisation charts they've put out in the core rules.
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2018/02/25 21:28:52
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
Knights need something when it comes to their abilities to create Command points. All they really get is the Superheavy detachment. They make Custodes look like a horde army. They need to have their own specific detachment when take as their own army.
2018/02/25 21:30:59
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
Nope, GW promised thus far has stuck to this promise throughout the release cycle that there will be no more unique detachments or organisation charts.
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2018/02/25 21:51:37
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
Assuming these rumours are correct it'd be fairly easy to do by introducing smaller variants and kits to fill other slots. Imagine if the armiger was middle sized in the range and some smaller sentinel sized gun platforms were troops perhaps? Upgrade 1 knight or armiger to a hq with some rules ala command tank and boom done.
2018/02/25 22:21:21
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
BrookM wrote: Nope, GW promised thus far has stuck to this promise throughout the release cycle that there will be no more unique detachments or organisation charts.
The Superheavy Detachment was pretty obviously built with Imperial Knight armies in mind anyways, lol.
2018/02/25 22:24:41
Subject: Re:Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
If a future Knight Codex does not include any non Knight units I can only see a couple of ways that GW would be able to get away with not giving them a unique detachment.. Either the Armiger's also count as lords of war(possibly in squadrons). Or they get a special rule where Knights can be assigned to certain non lord of war slots in a purely IK force.
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2018/02/25 22:31:44
Subject: Re:Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
Or they just do like they did in 30K. If an Army is made up entirely of Knights, they're no longer Lords of War. They have special HQ, Troop, Elite, FA, and HS rules, and you pick a variant, and fill the slot.
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2018/02/26 02:07:20
Subject: Re:Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
Irbis wrote: That would still give you what, a grand total of a single CP in realistic list...?
Six actually if you play battle forged, you get 3 CP's starting out plus any from whatever detachments you field, in this case the super-heavy detachment for another +3.
edit.
Unless you mean using the Patrol detachment, in which case it would be 3 CP's.
It doesn't help either that the Imperial Knight has almost doubled in price with the new rules. Where before I could play four or five models I can now only field three, unless we play big but right now playing pure Knights is, ehhhhhh, around here. It's also a bit painful that some weapon choices are overpriced for what they offer, like the rapid-fire battle cannon, once king, now meh.
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2018/02/26 08:08:51
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
Aren't both Gerantius and the Obsidian Knight suggested to be piloted by 'ghosts' aka the spirits of their former riders?
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
2018/02/26 11:42:09
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
That has never been confirmed for these two, though there have been instances where this has happened, like when the pilot died in a psychic attack (looking at you, gakky eldar) and the Throne Mechanicum took over, proceeding to have a beatdown with several wraith knights.
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2018/02/26 11:43:35
Subject: Re:Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
Aaranis wrote: I feel like GW is actively trying to find more and more stuff to do besides giving us AdMech a damn transport. Or updating finecast/metal models...
Always and money time for more Marines.
A proper way of setting up Free-blades would be good but again GW don't like conversions - unless they are Grey Knights.
Sadly the Ad Mech Necron conflict book will have to include - Marines - who will be the stars.
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Eh, I'm betting Fires is going to have Custodes at this point as well, seeing as how long they've dragged it out.
Maybe the Taus first taste of Custodes, causing them to gak their pants at Marines + 3.
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
2018/02/26 11:53:27
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
The 41st Millennium is a hellish place – but amid the darkness, a noble few still fight for honour and fealty…
That’s right – the Armiger Warglaives were merely the vanguard of a new wave of massive war machines. The Knight Households of the Imperium are moving from being a force represented with one kit (albeit, a very flexible one) to a fully realised faction with a wider choice of units and army building options than ever. Sometimes bigger is just better.
Codex: Imperial Knights features the rules for the new Knight units alongside rules for Knightly Households, Freeblades, Stratagems and all the great stuff you’ve come to expect from a modern codex.
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2018/03/22 07:03:50
Subject: Re:Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)
*starts singing the Megas XLR theme tune*
Looks like the first level of the sector mechanicus terrain in the trailer comes to its chin. So noticbly taller that the Paladin frame, but not massively wider if the rear reactor covers are the same size as the current kit. I'm surprised that they broke with the theme of relatively low tech weapons(with the exception of melta) that the GW IK have as well. Could we see other non solid shot weapons turn up on the other two Knight frames as well?
If the rumour about a re-release of Renegade also comes true its going to be tough to resist either expanding/rebooting my Terryn knights or starting up a new household.
2018/03/22 07:16:32
Subject: Rumor: Imperial Knights Codex / Campaign set / New IK models (Q2 2018?)