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Jes Goodwins art is brilliant (and I hope he's got his hands in the new sisters of battle). But I don't have the kind of expendable income for books like this, what extra money I do have I need to focus on the projects i've already started.

Not cheap but really wanted the original book, and now it has a Dark Eldar half too?

Pre-ordered before I could overthink it, I'm not really a big spender so I figure I can survive over-paying a small amount on something like this now and again

Artbooks generally aren't cheap anyway, and hey - free shipping! (OK not to Korea but when I visit home during the summer I can pick it up). And to be honest, I'm more of a '40k universe' customer than a '40k the game' customer, at this point.

I wish they'd sell them separately, I already have the Eldar sketchbook and have no interest in getting it a second time, but really want the DE book.

Would like to have these but a combination of not currently pursuing any Eldar projects and the knowledge that this would put an end to that stayed my hand.

Some people have really odd definitions of the word "bargain"...

Similar price as the extremely high quality HH game books but without any of the production value. I just don't get it.

Interestingly the Craftworlds book is listed at 136 pages, while the original Eldar Sketchbook had only about 96 pages.

So either
a) the existing content is spread over more pages
b) there'll be new content (maybe some FW and Epic stuff models like Revenant Titans that are missing from the original Sketchbook, which only contained art for GW models)
c) the page count is wrong

Even at US$125 I might think about this, I do love Jes Goodwin art and his Eldar work is extraordinary.

Unfortunatly these books aren't about the Eldar and Dark Eldar, but some guys I never heard of called the Asuryani and the Drukhari.

I mean WTF? I want to read about the Eldar!

(Yes, yes, I know, but the rebranding is just sooooo annoying, probably won't buy)

Sadly too pricey and I don't give a gak about Dark Eldar, so that's a pass for me. I also agree with the silliness of the rebranding.

 Art Steventon wrote:
£75 for 236 pages of artwork, in cloth covered, fabric bound books....

So that’s less than 32pence per page.

The Dark Eldar sketches haven’t been seen in a collection before, and the quality of the scans is perfect - they’ve not been cleaned so you can see the smudges on paper Jes used.

This is a bargain.

I don’t think they are cloth covered and fabric bound. But I’d be mighty happy if they are! I’ve ordered it up as the art looks fabulous. I wish the production quality was on par with the Heresy black books but these probably won’t sell as well so I imagine that puts up costs and so they lower standards, which while that isn’t great is understandable.
Looking forward to this!

Is this the same book as the last time?

i need to dig it up but i could of sworn i bought one of these last year.

 insaniak wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:
It's almost a bit heretical to put up old drawings by Goodwin in a book and slap on the corporate-mandated "Asuryani" and "Drukhari" on the covers.

Both books are actually just page after page of Jes scrawling 'They're fething ELDAR' in red crayon.

Brilliant

 Imateria wrote:
I wish they'd sell them separately, I already have the Eldar sketchbook and have no interest in getting it a second time, but really want the DE book.

I can understand this, but given that the Eldar Sketchbook wasn't really something that was available widely here in the US--I'm okay with the setup. Especially given that the Eldar Sketchbook by itself was $75.

I just got mine in the post. It came in a huge box, inside which was another bubble-wrapped box, inside which was more packaging to protect the tissue wrapped slip case.

Frankly, the book is beautiful. Jes Goodwin's art for the original aspect warrior releases was one of the things that first hooked me on Games Workshop. I started out with Blood Bowl, but I think my love with that could have faded if I had not been sucked into 40k with the Eldar. It is a nice little bonus that my surname is Goodwin

The first book includes little extras like early concept sketches showing the design process. One that stood out was the development on the Avatar face and "horns". Also, some of the earliest designs from Strike from the Shadows aspect which eventually became Striking Scorpions and Fire From Heaven which became Fire Dragons. They were quite different, not matching the iconic silhouettes we now know, but they had features which are recognisable.

The second book has a few interesting pages from the early nineties showing some amazing Exodite art. Frankly, GW, ought to be getting them into production now, even if it is over 25 years late!

The only (slight) disappointment was the Harlequins section, which was just a re-hash of already available art, as far as I can tell. I guess when you are going back to '88 then much of the unpublished stuff will have gone missing. It was not bad, just nothing more than a reprint.

Overall, I don't care how much it cost. I can't even remember. I love it enough that I would have paid double whatever it was. (But this comes from a man who was £70 from the limit of my twice-extended student overdraft (with maxed out credit cards too) and spent £40 on a book detailing Yoshitoshi's 100 Aspects of the Moon (a book on Ukiyo-e - Japanese woodblock art) and now consider it the best money I ever spent, so I may not be a reliable source.)

 Fifty wrote:
I just got mine in the post. It came in a huge box, inside which was another bubble-wrapped box, inside which was more packaging to protect the tissue wrapped slip case.

Frankly, the book is beautiful. Jes Goodwin's art for the original aspect warrior releases was one of the things that first hooked me on Games Workshop. I started out with Blood Bowl, but I think my love with that could have faded if I had not been sucked into 40k with the Eldar. It is a nice little bonus that my surname is Goodwin

The first book includes little extras like early concept sketches showing the design process. One that stood out was the development on the Avatar face and "horns". Also, some of the earliest designs from Strike from the Shadows aspect which eventually became Striking Scorpions and Fire From Heaven which became Fire Dragons. They were quite different, not matching the iconic silhouettes we now know, but they had features which are recognisable.

The second book has a few interesting pages from the early nineties showing some amazing Exodite art. Frankly, GW, ought to be getting them into production now, even if it is over 25 years late!

The only (slight) disappointment was the Harlequins section, which was just a re-hash of already available art, as far as I can tell. I guess when you are going back to '88 then much of the unpublished stuff will have gone missing. It was not bad, just nothing more than a reprint.

Overall, I don't care how much it cost. I can't even remember. I love it enough that I would have paid double whatever it was. (But this comes from a man who was £70 from the limit of my twice-extended student overdraft (with maxed out credit cards too) and spent £40 on a book detailing Yoshitoshi's 100 Aspects of the Moon (a book on Ukiyo-e - Japanese woodblock art) and now consider it the best money I ever spent, so I may not be a reliable source.)

Sounds great! Mine has been sent to my nearest GW rather than delivered after a mess up in the ordering. I don’t have time to go near it until sometime next week at the earliest. So I will have to wait.
You definitely need some financial management my friend!

While it sounds like something I'd love to have something like this I'm not paying that kind of price for them. Especially considering one seems to actually say Drukhari and I don't want a book that's either defaced or annoying to me.

pm713 wrote:
While it sounds like something I'd love to have something like this I'm not paying that kind of price for them. Especially considering one seems to actually say Drukhari and I don't want a book that's either defaced or annoying to me.

If it was something you'd love to have, you'd pay the price. I think it is something you'd vaguely like to have.

 Fifty wrote:

pm713 wrote:
While it sounds like something I'd love to have something like this I'm not paying that kind of price for them. Especially considering one seems to actually say Drukhari and I don't want a book that's either defaced or annoying to me.

If it was something you'd love to have, you'd pay the price. I think it is something you'd vaguely like to have.

No I'd like very much to have it. I'd also like to maintain financial responsibility. I could buy it but that would be a waste of my money. Like buying an Xbox just to have it.

 Fifty wrote:

pm713 wrote:
While it sounds like something I'd love to have something like this I'm not paying that kind of price for them. Especially considering one seems to actually say Drukhari and I don't want a book that's either defaced or annoying to me.

If it was something you'd love to have, you'd pay the price. I think it is something you'd vaguely like to have.

I'd like to have it as well, but feth regional AU pricing. It's something I'd like. Not something I need. I'm not someone who is so taken with GW products that I'm willing to pay any amount they ask for something without any thought like a perfect little consumer.

Besides, I have a good selection of GW art books already, including Gothic & Eldritch.

I find it weird that so many people are bothered about the
name Drukhari.

The codex is still Dark Eldar, the boxes still say Dark Eldar. It's not like an AoS renaming, or the imperial guard - all that's been done is the name they call themselves has been stated - in exactly the same way Dark Elves were Druchii.

I agree that it's a shame that they aren't split though. Already got my Eldar book and I'm not paying for it again!

The rebranding of the Eldar doesn’t annoy me at all. It makes perfect sense that an ancient race would call itself a name in its own tongue and that humans would have a nick name for them.
The rebranding that made my blood boil was my beloved imperial guard. That was a foul trick.

 Knockagh wrote:

The rebranding that made my blood boil was my beloved imperial guard. That was a foul trick.

I know!

Imperial Army forever!

Dont forget the good old space elves!

Considering getting this, anybody who have it can tell me if it has many sketches of 3rd edition era dark eldar?

Pick this up today at long last. Reasonable quality production. For the price it should have been cloth covered at a minimum. The art is excellent and a joy to flick through. Will certainly be attempting to scan a few pages to see if I can get reasonable prints for framing. Glad I have it. As previously stated it would have been nice to see more harlequin stuff. I’m not as fond of the dark Eldar stuff but that’s a personal thing.
Overall a lovely reference book, it just could have been presented better by having a quality material cover.

Got mine also.
The art is superb and some pages are intructive about the design and production
process. Definitely worth the buy for the content.

It would be really nice if they could release an other book
with his work on other factions.
I know the The Gothic and the Eldritch one covers this,
but it should be a lot more of unpublished scketches to make a sequel to it.

I'd love to see such a book for each of the factions. Show us how they developed each look over time.

 Fifty wrote:

Frankly, the book is beautiful. Jes Goodwin's art for the original aspect warrior releases was one of the things that first hooked me on Games Workshop.

Same here!

If you love Jess Goodwin's art, these books are for you! If you like Eldar, that is so much bonus!

Looks like this is sold out. Which makes me delighted to have it!