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 mrhappyface wrote:

Spectre228 wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

Spectre228 wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

Spectre228 wrote:
I included Macro already,

Well you've done something wrong because even your link agrees the Volcano Cannons alone do 10.4 damage.

and we are talking about CQC here, which 24" is not.

Doesn't matter if Skabby doesn't get there. Also, it depends on what you define as a hull on a walker when measuring weapon range; if you take the hull to only be it's torso then the minimum range on the Mori cannons is more like 14", allowing the titan to easily step out of combat and fire.

2d6 shots S30 AP -5 D 24 BS 3+
vs.
T9 3++ 5+++ rerolling 1's

Comes out as 5.2 dmg.

BS2+, not 3+.

I was assuming Scabeiathrax went first.

And if he does he doesn't knock the Warlord down to its second wound bracket, so it doesn't matter who goes first.

Using his pistol and then the Blade of Decay, with a Poxbringer, Virulent Blessing, Locus of Virulence, Masque of Slaanesh, and Skarbrand (far enough away that he doesn't grant the Warlord the bonus attack), he deals ~21 damage.

Bray'arth Ashmantle. 400 points of indestructible butchery. You'll never see a Warlord on a normal table but this guy is just a castaferrum chassis and is easily affordable.

Spectre228 wrote:
Using his pistol and then the Blade of Decay, with a Poxbringer, Virulent Blessing, Locus of Virulence, Masque of Slaanesh, and Skarbrand (far enough away that he doesn't grant the Warlord the bonus attack), he deals ~21 damage.

Sure then; if you send Skabby in with 3 buffing units (around 1300pts there) and he starts in combat and he goes first, he may just outlast a warlord.

 mrhappyface wrote:

Spectre228 wrote:
Using his pistol and then the Blade of Decay, with a Poxbringer, Virulent Blessing, Locus of Virulence, Masque of Slaanesh, and Skarbrand (far enough away that he doesn't grant the Warlord the bonus attack), he deals ~21 damage.

Sure then; if you send Skabby in with 3 buffing units (around 1300pts there) and he starts in combat and he goes first, he may just outlast a warlord.

The Warlord costing, what, 6000 points?


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Banville wrote:
Bray'arth Ashmantle. 400 points of indestructible butchery. You'll never see a Warlord on a normal table but this guy is just a castaferrum chassis and is easily affordable.

Yeah, 4+ FNP is insane.

The Swarmlord probably isnt the best on this list but he can start on the board and get turn one charges if the unit that you were going to use hive commander on gets obliterated in first turn shooting such as a 30 Stack of hormaguants. SL has 12 W, is 3++ in melee plus a 5+++ FnP from Catalyst, has 6 S8 attacks plus the tail attack hitting on +2s 6s confer additional attacks, can take a 1 CP strategeum to reroll wounds and can take a 3CP strategeum to fight again each attack deals a flat 3 Damage at -3 AP.

I'm going to add one just for fun, even though it probably isn't the best.

DW Captain with TH and Storm Bolter. Castalan of the Black Vault on the TH for +1 damage, Bane Bolts of Eryxia on the Storm bolter for +1 damage and MWs on 6s, 2 CP for a +1 to wound Doctrine, rerolling 1s to wound, and hit with Might of Heroes for +1 str and +1 attack.

Grey Knight Grandmaster Dreadknight: 5A WS2+ at S10 AP-3 D6 or -1 to hit with S12 AP-4 D6 (min 3), re-rolling 1s to hit, re-rolling charges, and T6 2+/2++ with psychic power+strategem; deepstrikes and can additionally teleport each turn and/or gets +1 to wound in melee.

No love for Abaddon or Kharn?

Spectre228 wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

Spectre228 wrote:
Using his pistol and then the Blade of Decay, with a Poxbringer, Virulent Blessing, Locus of Virulence, Masque of Slaanesh, and Skarbrand (far enough away that he doesn't grant the Warlord the bonus attack), he deals ~21 damage.

Sure then; if you send Skabby in with 3 buffing units (around 1300pts there) and he starts in combat and he goes first, he may just outlast a warlord.

The Warlord costing, what, 6000 points?

Yes, the FAQ that turned half of FWs model line into a joke.

Malathrim wrote:No love for Abaddon or Kharn?

Abaddon is alright, Kharn helps his opponant kill himself.

I'd have to say a Daemon Prince with the Khorne Daemons alliance equipped with the Skullreaver relic and the Legendary Fighter warlord trait. On the charge you're looking at 7 attacks at STR 11, -4 AP, D6 DMG, hitting on 2+ while rerolling hit rolls of 1 - AND with 6's to wound doing D3 mortal wounds each in addition to their normal damage. Without wings, you're spending only 156 points for this beast. For an extra 24 pts (and 1 PL) you can throw some wings on him. Keep him at it's base 8 PL and you can spend only 1 CP to let it deepstrike. Spend 3 command points to use the Frenetic Bloodlust stratagem to let him (or her) fight again. Oh, and against Titanic models the Skullreaver will be rerolling failed hits and wounds.

That does sound pretty darn good to me. I could run him with my 3 Bloodthirsters in a Supreme Commmand. I want plastic fleshounds to screen them!

Isn't there some Necron dude who you have to kill four times or something? I know Necrons have some fairly juicy CC weapons also.

Point for point, Tyranid spore mines will beat out any character for damage. And they don’t give up slay the warlord!

 gkos wrote:
Isn't there some Necron dude who you have to kill four times or something? I know Necrons have some fairly juicy CC weapons also.

In terms of killiness, the best you can get is probably a Novokh Dynasty Destroyer Lord with the Voidreaper (relic) and Honourable Combatant (WT). Against non-vehicle characters, he has 4 +D3 attacks, hits on 3+ rerollable if he charged or was charged, always wounds on 2+, -4 AP, 3 damage. You can make his first attack (as in, a single attack) ignore invulnerable saves for 1 CP, and he can fight again for 3CP. The Nightbringer is basically the same offensively but does D6 wounds and is stuck at 4 attacks hitting on 2+. They're both pretty nice as far as Necrons go but I doubt they compare at all to the best combatants in this thread.

As for the resurrecting shenanigans, you can give him Phylactery and the Nanoscarab Casket (relic). He heals D3 wounds at the start of every turn (yours AND your opponent's). The first time he dies, he comes back with D6 wounds on a 4+. The second time, you can use a 1CP strat to bring him back with 1 wound, again on a 4+. There's no way to resurrect more than twice.

The Emperors Champion is pretty beasty and very cheap.

For cost, against his preferred target, a simple Chaos Lord with the Murder Sword is probably one of the most cost effective character hunters in existence.

Going into the index, you can give him a Steed of Slaanesh for a big move, being able to run + charge, and an extra attack. Against Imperial Foes he can Death to the False Emperor for additional attacks, and with Prescience cast on him can get additional attacks on a 5+. Ignoring Armor and Invulnerable on his chosen foe. Makes him an excellent choice when the opponent has one huge beatstick character- like Guilliman.

He isn't the killiest, or the most durable. But he is really cheap for what you get.

I nominate a Gallant Freeblade With the Sworn to a quest Quality (Rerolls 1 to Hit against Warlord), Knight Seneschal warlord trait (+1 Attack), and the Paragon Gauntlet.

Can Death grip any of the smaller Characters and Punch the rest to death.

Very vulnerable to other characters getting the charge on it and dropping it in a turn though, and to shooting, and screens, and so on.

But come on, who doesn't want to run a giant war-machine at the enemies of the emperor.

I had a stab a this a while back albeit only using models I could half decently proxy

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/740620.page

Magnus does really well, he can deny invul saves which is a huge boost.