CSM genealogy

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**BrianDavion**

Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Fifty wrote:
Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Fifty wrote:
Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Thatguyhsagun wrote:
In one of the blood angels novels, by James Swallow I think, it’s mentioned several times that with DNA samples Fabius cloned Horus, and was actively seeking a pure sample of Sanguinius’ blood to do the same to him so he has at least the ability to recreate primarchs. Abbadon beat the clone to the fething ground from what I remember, so it probably wasn’t a full clone with all Horus’ abilities and power but I don’t have all the details.

Don’t see why he can’t just sample some DNA and have Primarius Replicae churning out soon enough

He has all the Primarchs DNA, but he got the actually sample of Horus's DNA from Horus' body. Swallow must have missed the part where Fabius got the Primarch project, the writers can't be expected to know everything, Swallow is fantastic writer[u], though maybe the DNA source from the actual body of the Primarchs is better for cloning as the Primarch project is the base materials to make them not the full actual grown DNA of a Primarch, with all the mutations they acquire over time.

Whuuuuuut?!

He is by far the worst Black Library author I have yet encountered. He once had a line in which "it was as if a serpentine-like thing seemed to writhe under someone's skin". How many layers of "as if", "seemed", "-ilke" and "-ine" similes can you squeeze into one sentence? Was he trying to win a bet? He does that sooooo much! Haing said that, I just read the War Without End anthology, and he had two good short stories without that crap. Maybe he has grown out of it.

WHUUUUUUU? He wrote Flight of the Eisenstein. All writers have their good and bad novels, but Flight of the Eisenstein shows how good he is. Chris Wraight has reserved the 'worst writer' of black library novels.

That book was one of his worst! Honestly though, it is strange how different people's opinions of authors can be. I find it a struggle to get through his books, and only read them fr continuity and a sense of completeness. If the whole series could be written by Aaron Dembski-Brown with a few bits chipped in by Dan Abnett and maybe one or two little bits of Guy Haley, I'd be a happy man.

Yeah liking books is so subjective, he writes well though whether you like the books or not, like Chris Wraight is a 'bad' writer.

and why's that? other then he's "biased" against space wolves

**Skullphoquer**

Yeah Fabius is our last hope to get some Chaos Primaris.
Maybe Abi and Fabius will get friends after Fabius give him some Chaos Primaris. I mean at christmas they want to release a new model for abi, maybe with some Chaos Primaris.

Or Fulgrim will rock like hell with Fabius Primaris Noise Marines

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**Slipspace**

Cloning Primarchs (as in brining back an exact copy of one of them with alltheir traits and powers) is probably impossible since it's made pretty clear that there's more to them than just their DNA. There's some sort of Warp/psychic component to their being that Fabius couldn't recreate, assuming he was even aware it was required. He can obviously make their physical form - or could - but the Primarchs surpass regular genetics in many ways so even his undoubted skills won't be able to truly recreate Primarch.

**Grimtuff**

Slipspace wrote:
Cloning Primarchs (as in brining back an exact copy of one of them with alltheir traits and powers) is probably impossible since it's made pretty clear that there's more to them than just their DNA. There's some sort of Warp/psychic component to their being that Fabius couldn't recreate, assuming he was even aware it was required. He can obviously make their physical form - or could - but the Primarchs surpass regular genetics in many ways so even his undoubted skills won't be able to truly recreate Primarch.

Read Clonelord- That's all I'm saying. Then you'll see how incorrect this is.

**locarno24**

Grimtuff wrote:
Slipspace wrote:
Cloning Primarchs (as in brining back an exact copy of one of them with alltheir traits and powers) is probably impossible since it's made pretty clear that there's more to them than just their DNA. There's some sort of Warp/psychic component to their being that Fabius couldn't recreate, assuming he was even aware it was required. He can obviously make their physical form - or could - but the Primarchs surpass regular genetics in many ways so even his undoubted skills won't be able to truly recreate Primarch.

Read Clonelord- That's all I'm saying. Then you'll see how incorrect this is.

True, but again - that's why I'm thinking there might be a distinction between those primarchs where Fabius has credible access to tissue from their living (or recently dead) body (Fulgrim/Horus/Ferrus), and those where he just has base genetic soup from omegon's guffed-up himalayzian gene-receptacle. It would explain why (for example) he'd still want Sanguinius' body.