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Liked the book series but can't see how it can be made to tv. Books are fast to read so lots of pages no problem.

Also hell of a risk to even follow. Going to take many seasons worth and there's no quarantee you are going to see the end even. Plug might be pulled away waaay before the end. Hopefully they do at least more than 1 season per year then.

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tneva82 wrote:
Liked the book series but can't see how it can be made to tv. Books are fast to read so lots of pages no problem.



Reading speeds vary a lot person to person; but in general most people will spend longer reading a 400 page book than they will watching the 2 hour film made from that book. Books are basically not limited in hours read and long series like wheel of time are not even that limited in page count as such

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 Overread wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Liked the book series but can't see how it can be made to tv. Books are fast to read so lots of pages no problem.



Reading speeds vary a lot person to person; but in general most people will spend longer reading a 400 page book than they will watching the 2 hour film made from that book. Books are basically not limited in hours read and long series like wheel of time are not even that limited in page count as such


But you don't make 2h movie out of WoT book...They LOTR turned out into basically 9 hour movie and that's by dropping tons of content out of it. Good luck trying to keep viewer attention long enough and keep in mind what's going on(with books it's easy to remind reader midway). And movie/tv series are easier to put on pause so to speak.

Also production will be nightmare as you will need tons of sets that will keep using through series so you need to store them. Oh and actor ages can become an issue as well as doing some 10 seasons will start to show up in ages. Neither issue exists with books.

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Well a TV series often has a lot more hours to work with than a film as a TV series is more constrained by how many seasons it gets and its seasonal structure. That said even if a season is a single book that can still be 10 episodes at say 40mins long each or longer. So that's a lot more time than a film.


As for sets they can get around that somewhat with a lot of green screens.

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Welp, interview with the showrunner is out and it's all but confirmed to be butchered.
   
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I like the Facebook post where the show will be 200 seasons long, and the creators will die after season 175, requiring new writers to finish it out.

I loved the Wheel of Time in the beginning, but man it got too long winded.



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Welp, interview with the showrunner is out and it's all but confirmed to be butchered.

I don't even think any show could do this book any justice.

If I were them, just take the characters and the general framework of that world... and just take the creative license needed to make it work on screen.

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Well, holy gak balls it's been a long time, but the first teaser trailer dropped a few days ago.

It's been a long time since I read any of the books (and like many I didn't get all the way to the last one) but I can't say anything in the trailer feels familiar.

That said, it sure as hell doesn't feel cheap..



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I got to about book 8 and couldn’t take it any more. It was actually putting me off reading. If you want to find out the broad plot and character development in a shorter punchier version, try the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind. Although I see that has already had a TV adaptation, and it did not go well.

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 Flinty wrote:
I got to about book 8 and couldn’t take it any more. It was actually putting me off reading. If you want to find out the broad plot and character development in a shorter punchier version, try the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind. Although I see that has already had a TV adaptation, and it did not go well.


You made it further than I did. I gave up about a third of the way through book 4. I just couldn't stand to read 'she crossed her arms under her breasts' one more fething time. Jordan just wasn't a great writer, especially when it came to female characters.

I'm hoping the tv show is a little more palatable for me.
   
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End of Book 6 was amazing, but overall I think there were too many characters threads being followed that were just not that interesting.
   
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Heh. For me each book was quick snack so to speak. Last 3 i read day per book

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Well the trailer looks ok.....and watchable unlike the (IMO) tedium of the books.

I tried the Witcher and finally gave up when the godawful bard arrived.

Shanara and the Outpost were /are much better but will likely give this a try.

 StygianBeach wrote:
End of Book 6 was amazing, but overall I think there were too many characters threads being followed that were just not that interesting.

Sounds exactly like the later Song of Ice and Fire novels.

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What is it about the Wheel of Time that makes so many people so quick to come out of nowhere to tell you how much they didn't like it? I've never seen any book series have this same phenomena, and it's on every single forum I go to.

Anyway, as someone who had read every book on release, I am looking forward to this. I know it won't be 100% faithful, that would be impossible, but I'm still hoping it will hit all the right notes and be fun to watch.

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 Tannhauser42 wrote:
What is it about the Wheel of Time that makes so many people so quick to come out of nowhere to tell you how much they didn't like it? I've never seen any book series have this same phenomena, and it's on every single forum I go to.

Anyway, as someone who had read every book on release, I am looking forward to this. I know it won't be 100% faithful, that would be impossible, but I'm still hoping it will hit all the right notes and be fun to watch.


It's probably because wheel of time gets mentioned so much on any discussion about fantasy novels. If you're into the genre and you go looking for recommendations, chances are very high you're gonna see the series suggested a lot.

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I think it might be because the background and characters and world building is amazingly awesome, but you need to wade through so many words to find it all!

As long as they get Lan sorted, the rest will be fine

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Personally, it's because WOT is like what would happen if Tolkein had taken five books to tell the LOTR story, then Jackson had taken 12 movies to adapt it, and the the movies were adapted back into novelisation but with extra padding and waffle.

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I swear every fantasy show other than GoT looks extremely low-budget. The CGI looks fine, but the costumes look like costumes, not actual clothes.

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 Flinty wrote:
I think it might be because the background and characters



Yes, that one angry and stern woman is very, very detailed, seems to be everywhere and has so many names.


The world building is clever, I'll admit. Simply for the way he makes it suggestive, yet very, very vague, and readers can basically fill in whatever they want.

But nothing will ever make me read about a wagon ride with three copies of the same female archetype/stereotype being snarky at each other for 400 bloody pages.
You can do multiple real novels in the time & page count it takes some of the side characters to get from point A to point B, and I've no recollection of where they were going or why. Just that reading it was mostly pain, and a goodly example of the reason why Jordan died before he finished the series. Laborious, tedious yammering about nothing while steadfastly refusing to resolve plot threads AND refusing to stop introducing new ones.

The video doesn't look much like the books, which is no bad thing. That said, it does look a little too much like generic fantasy cosplay in front of Tolkien-inspired matte paintings, and that is a bad thing. Or at least, uninteresting.

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I never got around to finishing the series when Sanderson took it over, but I probably should. His other stuff is great, especially his new WoT-styled epic series called the Stormlight Archive (where each book is 1000 freaking pages).

I can't wait to see Perrin's story on screen; his parts with Faile were my favorites.

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 AegisGrimm wrote:
I never got around to finishing the series when Sanderson took it over, but I probably should. His other stuff is great, especially his new WoT-styled epic series called the Stormlight Archive (where each book is 1000 freaking pages).

I can't wait to see Perrin's story on screen; his parts with Faile were my favorites.


I'm about 400 pages into the first book of Stormlight Archives and it's fantastic. It's actually making me want to finish WoT to see what he does with the end of the series, but I don't know if I can stomach more of Jordan's tedium.
   
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 trexmeyer wrote:
I swear every fantasy show other than GoT looks extremely low-budget. The CGI looks fine, but the costumes look like costumes, not actual clothes.


Maybe beacuse they are lower budget? Not sure about this one in terms of budget?

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Ive still got to read the wheel of time. My family had 1-9 and I bought 10-13 and the prequel secondhand in the last couple months. Had to buy a new book 14.
Book 7-13 are all the stupidly large and heavy trade paperbacks.

Hopefully this adaptation is good and does well enough to not get cancelled partway.
   
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I've never gotten the hate for most of the WoT books. The only one which I've really struggled with so far is the tenth, which I'm currently putting off as I type this. The other ones are fine, with the exception of The Fires of Heaven, as printing that monstrosity has been a net negative for both fantasy literature and the human race.

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 creeping-deth87 wrote:
 AegisGrimm wrote:
I never got around to finishing the series when Sanderson took it over, but I probably should. His other stuff is great, especially his new WoT-styled epic series called the Stormlight Archive (where each book is 1000 freaking pages).

I can't wait to see Perrin's story on screen; his parts with Faile were my favorites.


I'm about 400 pages into the first book of Stormlight Archives and it's fantastic. It's actually making me want to finish WoT to see what he does with the end of the series, but I don't know if I can stomach more of Jordan's tedium.


Yes, I never realized that what I was missing from my multiple reads of The Wheel of Time (As much as I still love the story) was better pacing, magical power armor, and 6-foot swords that can cut nearly everything in existence, even souls. Go figure.

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I'm not very familiar with the source material (as a dnd here and general fantasy can I'm aware of it but never read it) so I don't know how close this is to the novels but a new trailer dropped.




As an outsider looking in, this feels more like a high budget CW/Shannara style show from that clip than LOTR/GOT in terms of style, asthetics, lighting, and direction. That's not a great first impression. I hope Amazon's LOTR prequel is a better first impression.

For Brits here in the forum, are any of those actors from the UK? No sarcasm intended but the accents sound off to me.
   
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Hmm that was .....every fantasy tavern ever...so...Ok I guess its for people who know who all these people are......

(plus seriously people shut doors when you come inside)

If it can match Shanara that would be good....


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