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12 Dark Elf Warriors with spear and shield, 16 Dark Elf Warriors with repeater crossbow, 20 Corsairs and 5 Cold One Knights.

The Warriors is a little misleading... they all come in the same sprue so you could build all with spears or all with crossbows.

Its a great set and as you can see has just about everything I needed for 1000 points.

Ok, so you have the old school warriors with klingon helmets.

You can make City Guard out of those, two units of fourteen with two full commands, eight crossbows and fourteen spears.

Its pretty much optimal really because a seven wide formation looks right, command directly in the centre with enough crossbows either side (two) to show how the mixed unit works.
This is exactly how I used them in 5th, except mine were metal..

If you move on from Ravening Hordes you lose City Guard but can field the same miniatures as a unit of seventeen spearelves, which makes a neat 6x3 with one character and a unit of eleven crossbows, both units with full command, though you might want to drop the banner on the crossbows to take a minimum unit of ten.

You get two ways to play them with what you have got. IMHOP its a sweet spot deployment for your small games and something to build on if you/when expand.

Note that the older warriors aren't really compatible with the new sets. Some people prefer the older plastics as they had more dynamic poses. I agree but prefer the aesthetics of the 8th edition plastic warriors and forgive the static poses.

As for the Corsairs they only did one plastic boxset and got it right first time, though you do need to assemble carefully or they might not rank up. When building them, start with the command group, assemble the models before fixing them to the bes to make sure they go together. Place them a little further forward than usual. then assemble the unit around them comparing each model built on all sides with others in the unit to make sure they rank up, note that not every model needs to rank up on every side, so long as they all do on most sides.

Cold One Knights do not rank up, but that only matters if you take multiple ranks, which is not recommended. The plastic cold ones look awesome, the older plastics did not. Before them were metal cold ones, the later ones (5th edition) looked awesome, the older ones did not.

What I would personally do is chase down another box of Warriors. You can then build a 20 man spear regiment and have two back up units of Crossbowmen. THIS is supplemented with the Corsairs and you still have your fast units to flank and the like.

Tony come on man I got to stick to my plan. If I go larger on my basic units I gotta do that for everyone. No can do.

 KTG17 wrote:
Tony come on man I got to stick to my plan. If I go larger on my basic units I gotta do that for everyone. No can do.

It will happen sooner or later.

Start by allowing alternate ways to 1000pts or character swaps.

Resistance if feudal.

Exactly, have some extra command models and try running your combat units at 20. Some, at any rate. Like the Core ones. THEN if you feel frisky you can either bulk up the 10 man elite regiments or proxy the back ranks until you can fill them.

 KTG17 wrote:
Tony come on man I got to stick to my plan. If I go larger on my basic units I gotta do that for everyone. No can do.

Or put it another way, if you have fun collecting more for one faction then you gotta have even more fun.


Empire

Pistoliers, light cavalry with a rennaisance flavour.

Orcs

Porcine cavalry for outrageous flatulent fun.

Dwarfs

Slayers. the above models are Avatars of War dwarf seekers, highly recommended. You get twenty for a good price, of course you will only need 5-10, for now.

Goblins

Fanatics for your Night Goblins, andc more spider riders wont go amiss.

High Elves

Dragon Princes, and you alrasdy have your griffon to include.

Skaven

Plague monks, and add in either the Screaming Bell or the pestilent equivalent.

Lizardmen

Big lizard

Any chance I will see some dinosaurs in your dinosaur army.

Wood Elves

Because the word 'wood' in wood elves should be a clue.

Chaos Warriors

Warshrine, brace yourself for how utterly awesome this model is, of course you will need more infantry marching alongside it, but give that time.

Bretonnians
Whatever it is it will be expensive so no tempters here.

Beastmen

Chariots were the de facto mainstay of Beasts of Chaos lists.

Dark elves
Been adding a lot of recommendations for this faction of late.


Note that I have not attempted to balance the above, as they are collection items, swap ins and signature pieces, you can balance them when you get to 2k. Go on, you know you want to.

With the exception of the Warshrine, which has no comparable unit in 6th, you do have a point. There's quite a few ways he can bulk up to 20 man regiments, AND slow build up to 2,000 points. Also, start playing 1,500 point games once all your armies have some units added. THAT, and once you get some 1,000 point games in it'll be easier to figure out what you NEED to add to fit your playstyle.

It also opens up some interesting possibilities for team games, where the two small lists need to deal with the larger one, rather than against two small lists mashed together. Fight an actual orc horde, rather than orcs and vampires for example.

 Just Tony wrote:
With the exception of the Warshrine, which has no comparable unit in 6th, you do have a point. There's quite a few ways he can bulk up to 20 man regiments, AND slow build up to 2,000 points. Also, start playing 1,500 point games once all your armies have some units added. THAT, and once you get some 1,000 point games in it'll be easier to figure out what you NEED to add to fit your playstyle.

I was looking at the warshrine as an option of cool models to collect. Though you have a valid point if the OP is continuing with 6th. Very well;

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120201018_DragonOgres01.jpg
Dragon ogres are a visually impressive collectors unit that can serve use in swap in lists.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120201048_MarauderHorsemen01.jpg
Marauder horse are a more practical everyday upgrade option.

 Mmmpi wrote:
It also opens up some interesting possibilities for team games, where the two small lists need to deal with the larger one, rather than against two small lists mashed together. Fight an actual orc horde, rather than orcs and vampires for example.

A very good point, one can boost some armies to 1.5k and 2k before others, and they can fight allied 750pt or 1k armies.
Some factions only really need to be an allied taster army. Bretonnians for instance are very samey, you can get the flavour of a Bret list with a unit of knights and a unit of men at arms, and ally them in.
Though if KTG17 or anyone else wants to collect a larger Bretonnian army I can offer some recommendations for manufacture, via non GW sources. Norba Miniatures for instance, and Fireforge.

Greetings and salutations!

I wish to inform you that I have finally acquired a Vampire Counts Battalion set! The one with the 20 Skeletons, 20 Zombies, 10 Ghouls, and the Corpse Cart that I have no need for.



I really wanted the box. I loved the art on it. So yes I paid a premium for that. But lucky for me I got a decent deal on it considering I have been wrestling on getting the only one I could find that was being sold for buku amount in Italy. And shipping would have added to it.



So adding my army list to my OP, but here is what I am planning on doing:

For 700 points:

Vampire Thrall with Heavy Armor, Biting Blade, and Ring of Barrows - 129
Necromancer with Talisman of Protection - 80
5 Wight Calvary with Champion, Musician, and Standard - 130
20 Skeletons with Champion, Musician, and Standard - 170
20 Zombies - 100
10 Crypt Ghouls - 90

For 1000 points:

Either

Grave Guard with Champion, Musician, and Standard - 140
Bat Swarm - 50
Dire Wolves - 110

or

Black Coach - 250
Bat Swarm

I am not sure which way to go. I feel like the Black Coach would be kind of over-powering at 250 points for 1000 point games (I have no idea I don't even have the model yet let alone played it). What do you guys think?

Also, I know some of you hate the ghouls, but honestly I like the models and think they mix things up with the undead guys. I know they will probably be useless in battle.

Eh, just run the ghouls. In the end, it's about what YOU like.

And you could always have the Corpse Cart count as your Black Coach. A Strigoi Black Coach

Yep corpse carts are useful for counts as. But its evidently too slow as a black coach.

Mount it on a 60x100 base, make one for it and save the chariot base for an AoS miniature that comes on something round that needs it. On a 60x100 the corpse cart will be a placeholder for fifteen zombies, useful if you have summons that get out of control.

Alternately scrap it. The two corpse piles can be attached to 40K chaos vehicles, or used as a corpse pile for a diorama or for a large monster base. The cart itself can be repurposed once you have steeds, make the cart less coffin shaped and give it two horses and its just a supply cart. Add suitable normal (not ribcage) railings. The four draught zombies become extra zeds for your summons and above all you get a very nice necromancer model.
I bits ordered two corpsemasters to serve as my army necromancers, you need to model yours with the left foot standing on a skull or a rock as the feet are uneven otherwise and he will then fit on a 20mm square base just fine. Convert the right whip arm with a ghoul claw and use the left sword hand and he will serve just fine as a necromancer.
GW themselves did this conversion for one of their projects to make a pack of chaos cultists for a ritual circle. I think it was in the Storm of Magic book.