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2018/12/11 16:30:48
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Stealthy Sanctus Slipping in His Blade
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lolman1c wrote:Interesting... now... any ork players out there want a plastic Squiggoth?
That's be neat. I've always liked Squiggoths, ever since I tooled around with orks back in Dawn of War for the PC...
I'd probably kill a man to have a plastic dual kit for the Heirodules though.
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PourSpelur wrote:It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't. Hive Fleet Hercual - 6760pts
Hazaak Dynasty - 3400 pts
Seraphon - 4600pts
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2018/12/11 16:47:35
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think what would be awesome is if they release a magazine series where you get a part of the titan each week - but with good levels of detail, internally and externally. Have guides for making and painting each piece in the magazine, as well as articles & comics & fluff etc. Then, have the whole kit release a while after the magazine ends, so people who did the mag get to have the titan sooner. Maybe even run 2 magazines in tandem, with an imperial titan and an ork gargant, with all the fluff of an imperial forgeworld under siege by the orks, with a developing story which ties in with each item included. The spines could, when arranged, depict 2 halves of a battle, with the 2 battle lines, so if you collect both you get the whole picture. Then, once the magazine has run it's course, sell the parts as separate kits, which can be bundled on the site as the whole kit. They'd make more money, and people who can't afford the lump sum of a gargant / titan can buy it piecemeal and get each piece painted before the next. I think GW would make a boatload of money if they did this, and a lot of people would go for it.
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2018/12/11 16:49:27
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Affordable centerpiece models like Heirodules/Heirophants or Squiggoths would likely overwhelm my impulse control and greatly increase the Factions I collect.
I am already struggling mightily against the impulse to buy a Crassus; a Transport my army can't legally use.
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2018/12/11 16:57:07
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well here is the math for me on it.
Right now a recast cost is 260 for a Warhound, and 600 for a warlord.
A plastic Warhound would need to be in that range for me to consider it. And a Plastic Warlord would need to be in that range for me to consider it.
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2018/12/11 20:41:32
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I think it ruins the game like super heavies abd imperial knighs. They belong in Apoc gamesm.
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2018/12/11 20:45:41
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Having a Knight in the army, isn't a problem. It's not unfair.
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2018/12/11 21:26:10
Subject: Re:Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Savannah
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I'd take a squigoth or bio-titan as a nice centerpiece. I keep contemplating getting a bio-titan as they are, but it'd be such a pain to deal with all those fiddly tyranid bits in resin (heck, I wouldn't even trust the thing to stand under its own weight) and the sticker shock is real.
Obviously it wouldn't be for everyday use, but it would be fun to bring out for events or just to mix things up occasionally. I have lots of models that rarely see use, like my entire cygnar army or the custom stompa I'm building (gork rest his 920 point soul), that I nevertheless derive joy from.
Of course, I wouldn't complain about a stat boost to match the point cost (I'd rather they be scary than cheap, just look at how huge they are) to go along with the new plastics.
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2018/12/11 21:39:59
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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I think it's like 2 grand in Canuck bucks, so maybe if the price was cut off and had no projects on the go.
I do like the warlord titan, I know if I got one my friend would end up getting a manta. So for his sake I'd probably have to not buy it lol
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2018/12/11 21:46:56
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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No, because i'd rather see a plastic minotaur or malcador.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2018/12/11 21:54:51
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It'd be much easier to do a Gorgon mk.II based on the Baneblade chassis
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2018/12/11 22:15:41
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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JohnHwangDD wrote:
It'd be much easier to do a Gorgon mk.II based on the Baneblade chassis
Compared to a Malcador?
Probably but let's face it, there is no reason they couldn't make a plastic malcador. (not to mention that it would not gak over the balance off the game)
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2018/12/11 22:57:53
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Not Online!!! wrote: JohnHwangDD wrote:
It'd be much easier to do a Gorgon mk.II based on the Baneblade chassis
Compared to a Malcador?
Probably but let's face it, there is no reason they couldn't make a plastic malcador. (not to mention that it would not gak over the balance off the game)
Yes. The Epic Gorgon clearly used the Baneblade chassis at it's base,. It's 2 new sprues that leverages rest of the kit.
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2018/12/11 23:17:17
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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I voted yes because while I was say "yes-but" and think "yes-but" , if GW made one I would buy it.
If GW made plastic 40k scale titans rationality would go out the window, thoughts of practicality or usability would become irrelevant. Its a plastic titan. So having one. The only limiting factor will be price, and even then there are ways to make do.
I dont need x armies, but I have x armies. It is my hobby.
Be honest, many of you would be the same.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2018/12/12 02:23:46
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I would like to play a game with all jump infantry that uses a 40k scale Imperator titan as a board. Not saying I would ever be able to afford one, or that anyone would ever be crazy enough to build one, but you've got to admit it would be a hell of a game.
I'm really poor- pretty much anything forge world makes is out of my league. But in my dreamworld, I'd kit-bash a reaver and every piece of church scenery I could stick to the chasis to make a custom cathedral for my Ministorum and Sisters.
Always wanted to build a Sisters supper heavy- 2 exorcist launchers, 2 imolator turrets and a custom Ministorum character (like the old confessor kyrinov model) delivering a sermon.
Also want to kitbash a warglaive and a raging heroes war pulpit. I love the war pulpit torso, and the weapon load out is good, but the arms and legs don't look 40k enough, and the head doesn't quite work either. I'm not sure about scale, or the viability of combining plastic and resin bits.
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2018/12/12 04:19:39
Subject: Re:Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Peregrine wrote: Elbows wrote:Do I think they could shift a lot of $200 plastic Thunderhawks, or $250 plastic Warhound titans? Probably - a massive number compared to what they sell in resin, at the very least.
I doubt it, because there just isn't going to be a market for them. Lots of people say they want a plastic Thunderhawk, but how many people are going to drop $200 on a model that is never going to see the table? You're pretty much talking about the same tiny niche of dedicated collectors who are already buying the FW kits.
GW has the capability and capacity to produce titan level kits in plastic. The reason they dont is probably return on investment. It is relatively easy to take a 3d model of something and create a mold for it. Now whether or not its plastic injection or poured resin changes the initial cost outlay as well as qty required for break even point. Even tho only GW knows how much it costs to make a resin titan, the cost to manufacture it is directly correlated to the amount produced. Whenever someone buys a titan, they pull the mold, add it to the casting schedule, cast it and done. If GW was doing it in plastic, they'd probably run a couple thousand kits at a time rather than as needed(due to setup, calibration, etc).
I would probably buy a plastic warhound & thunderhawk if the price was around USD$200ish. I was seriously considering a Warhound, but with the price increase that plan has been effectively cancelled. Some of the larger plastic kits (tamiya, etc) have excellent detail and aren't cost prohibitive. since GW are also selling stuff for gaming purposes it changes the pricing dynamic.
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2018/12/12 23:38:48
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Super heavies and imperial knights suck the skill and stratagy out of the game, forces me to tailor a list, and forceing a lame narative. Tittain will only be the same, they belong in Apoc battle.
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2018/12/13 00:10:59
Subject: Re:Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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allready have several, adeptus titanicus ftw!
joke aside. a warhound in plastic, no i would not simply cuz it is too big, and apox games are not your everyday game. (infact my opinion is that titans should be limited to only be used in open play, just as apox is)
however a light scout titant that is smaller then a warhound but bigger then a knight i could theoreticly fit in 40k, and its not like a light scout titan is a pure fantasy, they are coming in the distant future to titanicus so the designs exists.
but then again, why would you bring a model that should not cost under 1000p to a 2000p game?
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darkswordminiatures.com
gamersgrass.com
Collects: Wild West Exodus, SW Armada/Legion. Adeptus Titanicus, Dust1947. |
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2018/12/13 03:04:02
Subject: Re:Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Probably not. At this point as a rare IOM player who doesn't even own a Knight, something that big in a normal game just doesn't feel right and Apoc games are fun but rare theses day. I'd probably be far more interested in a god dam plastic Thunderhawk.
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2018/12/13 03:25:09
Subject: Re:Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I'd probably pass on it, just because I don't really have space to store something that big. Especially if we were talking about a Warlord or even bigger. Don't get me wrong; Titans are awesome, but I just don't see myself ever getting one even if I can come up with the cash for it.
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2018/12/14 17:21:22
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I think the argument that it wouldn't sell because you couldn't effectively use them in normal games is a bit silly. I mean just look at some of the signature blocks in this thread that show how many armies and how many points of that army different people have.
There's no way anyone needs close or over 10K worth of points of any army, you could easily have a couple of each option in the codex for fewer points than that. They have that many points of armies because they like them, the models are cool, or any number of other reasons that have nothing to do with "being good in a normal game"
Now that said I still don't know if plastic titans would sell well or not. My intuition is that they probably would not, at least not to the point where it would make financial sense for GW to produce them. I think a lot of people would buy them as cool hobby or center piece models but I don't think that would account for enough people to warrant doing it.
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2018/12/14 17:22:41
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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There are more important models to put into plastic.
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war. |
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2018/12/14 18:56:56
Subject: Would you buy a plastic titan?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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I really wish they'd make Arcastus Knight Porphyrion in plastic. It is really cool model an still 'small' enough that you could actually use it in a game.
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