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While I've always hoped Rey was a Skywalkers in a familial sense (don't care if it's derivative, it's the mythos of SW), I'm getting a vibe that she may be a Skywalker in the sense that "Skywalker" has another meaning in the SW canon aside for Anakin & Luke's last name.

As in "The" Skywalker.

Gotta be honest though, I wasn't feeling the hype for this before. Now I am.
Fingers crossed that Luke is in the movie for a good bit. Even as a Force Ghost. The Generations thing also makes me hope for Hayden's Anakin and Ewan's Obi-wan to also appear. Rey having a "Force Ghost" council to guide her forward for at least 1 scene.

I'd also LOVE to see Kylo have a conversation with Force Ghost Anakin. But....I hoped for that in the last 2 movies, soooo

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The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
A New Hope
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens
The Last Jedi
and now
"The Rise of Skywalker"

The title doesn't even fit.

The Rise of Skywalker? What does that even mean? Is that not what the OT was about?

Bringing The Emperor into this when he hasn't been mentioned at all is pure desperation.

Optimistic after that trailer. Nice visuals. (Is JJ promising us a young woman v TIE scene after it went missing in Rogue One).

The 'legend' coming to an end, Luke's voice-over, the Death Star, Palpatine....

This is closure on Luke's story.

For the second time in my life (first being mid-prequels) I'm actually not really expecting much. To the point that I won't be rushing to see the movie in theatres.

They might as well have called it Star Wars: Damage Control. After The Last Jedi and to a limited extent Solo - I've lost almost all of my enthusiasm for Star Wars as a franchise. I was able to cope with the mediocrity of The Force Awakens (I sincerely hoped it was just a kind of "meh" half-hearted start to something really good...) and I thought Rogue One was absolutely perfect as a Star Wars film...but then Star Wars just slid into the toilet.

I'm not a life-long dedicated, convention-attending, light-sabre-wielding Star Wars superfan. I'm a kid who grew up with the original trilogy, the toys, and then more or less ignored the Episdoe I-III movies in high school....but the simple joy Star Wars used to bring me has been gutted by political bs and artistic-selfishness. Part of me is actually glad to see them state the Saga is ending. I'd rather see an IP slow down or quit than be ground into dust by film-making hacks.

As much as I like JJ's film abilities...I don't think there's much you can do to fix the absolute gak show that was TLJ.

Kylo will turn good, and spectacularly sacrifice himself saving the day -- nay, the universe, so Rey can be the one and only jedi forever.

That Palpatine laugh is probably the only thing that miiiight get me to see in theatres.

Bit weird with the Tie Fighter trying to run over Rey though, did it run out of ammo or something? Woman driver? Maybe its Rose thinking she's "saving" Rey like she did with Finn? Find out in the next episode of Star Wars Z!

Lando's back, which is something I suppose, and Billy Dee Williams' charm is always worth watching, and Ian Mcdiarmid's Shakespearian presence, is always on the ball, but if it's as bad as the previous two instalments, then not even these legends of Star wars will be enough to save the franchise.

As I've said before, Phantom Menace et al, are not good films, but Lucas' heart was in the right place. He genuinely tried to make good Star wars films, and I respect him for that. The execution was just wrong. Compare and contrast that to the pure cynicism of TLJ.

My low expectations remain low.

Not going to see it in cinemas, not because "ERMEHGURD TRIGGAAAARRED" or whatever nonsense Sequel superfans tell themselves about folk who disliked TLJ, but simply because TLJ lowered my enthusiasm for the Sequels enough that my normal everyday dislike of going to the cinema isn't overcome by it.

I am however interested to see where this is going. I suspect most of the stuff folk are discussing/getting hype over is just JJ "mystery box" BS, but honestly it's kind of hilarious that TLJ bombed so hard with some fans that they're hoping we get Palpatine back - imagine being the guy who made a SW movie so reviled by many that they start actively wishing that its sequel ends up mining one of the most mocked parts of the old EU for ideas

Maybe when Vader threw the emperor into the bottomless pit, he came out a little hole where a tie fighter could pick him up, just like Luke did in Empire. He's been hiding out in secret all these years, waiting to strike when we least expect it.

So I'm kind of at a loss to explain why D-0, the one-wheeled droid that kinda looks like a rubber duck, is in the (still very obviously fake) poster.

Along with accurate costumes for Finn and Poe (not sure if the lightsaber prop modification is the same and the red troopers and 3P0 are obvious shop jobs), we're there other prerelease images I didn't see?

It’s possible.

I mean, The Emperor was nothing if not proficient in The Force. Once the initial shock of Vader’s betrayal was overcome (it was a long way down), he could easily Force Repel himself, to prevent ‘orrible splutchy pancake old bloke death.

Or, it’s a Clone. Or, for those that’ve read the comics and new EU novels, one of those messenger Droid Things, giving His orders to the remaining faithful?

Lots of ways it could go. And I’m champing at the bit to find out.

 Necros wrote:
Maybe when Vader threw the emperor into the bottomless pit, he came out a little hole where a tie fighter could pick him up, just like Luke did in Empire. He's been hiding out in secret all these years, waiting to strike when we least expect it.

My first guess is some EU style terrible 'dark side force ghost' posessing people, seduce people to the dark side and drives them to imitate his glories, may or may not possess their bodies, may or may not be grooming Kylo Ren for that purpose, may or may not have created Anakin for that purpose.

My second guess is he's survived bodily all this time through the dark side of the force and can only lie there, calling out to people. Can't move but refuses to give up and die?

Could simply be Palpatine manifesting as a Force Ghost himself. Certainly one way to run an Empire

The number of people who seem to have forgotten that audio of Vader's respirator was cranked up to 11 in the EPVII trailer amuses me.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
My low expectations remain low.

If my low expectations got any lower, I'd break through the Earth's core and end up sitting on an Australian beach.

Palpatine laugh good (Its like I said wouldn't that be neat...JJ reads Dakka!) rest is a shoulder shrug. TLJ was so bad the real trailer and reviews from people I know have to be awesome for me to see it.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
My low expectations remain low.

If my low expectations got any lower, I'd break through the Earth's core and end up sitting on an Australian beach.

and here I thought I was the pessimist.

I am going to have to give it a Meh...

Wasn't hoping for much... but I am tired of no story and a big advertisement for the video game / toy tie in

Eff me.

There are people here who I need to tap up for Lottery Numbers, telling so much from the merest tease.

"Every generation has a legend."

Yes. We know. You killed him in the last film.

Weird title. Palatine is back, apparently. Ok. *shrugs* Don't really know what else I'm meant to think.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s possible.

I mean, The Emperor was nothing if not proficient in The Force. Once the initial shock of Vader’s betrayal was overcome (it was a long way down), he could easily Force Repel himself, to prevent ‘orrible splutchy pancake old bloke death.

This is pure cope. Remember when he explodes and energy, almost implied to be his own evil essence, shoots back up the shaft?

And a blast from the past comparison:

Did he explode though? Or just bounce off and dislodge a pipe of some kind?

We dunno! I mean, he probably did explode. But a Force Ghost Palpatine is entirely possible.

True that.

Captain Joystick,

Thanks for posting the Teaser.

Mrs Captain Brown and I will go to see it if we can find someone to take Ms Captain Brown. Sadly the importance of the series has faded with time...and a previous weak movie.

Cheers,

CB

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Did he explode though? Or just bounce off and dislodge a pipe of some kind?

We dunno! I mean, he probably did explode. But a Force Ghost Palpatine is entirely possible.

I would not be surprised if Palps and Snoke are somehow connected and the "reveal" of Palps in EpX will be that Snoke was just a puppet for a still living/resurrected/ghost Palpatine.

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I don't think I've ever said on here that a guy I work with claims that his sister's boyfriend's brother's boyfriend (what does that make us? Absolutely nothing) works in costume design on the film and has apparently measured up Matt Smith for 'Palpatine style' robes, as well as confirmed that there are Ewok costumes involved.

I've never known whether to believe him as he knows I don't care for the sequels and might just be trying to wind me up.

Am I wrong that TFA hinted that Kylo was communing with someone...presumably Vader, but now possibly Palpatine?

Anyway, trailer looks good to me. I assume "Rise of Skywalker" refers to Ben/Kylo, after having seized command of the First Order.

And thinking about it in that context, it doesn't feel like this one is going to be a 180 degree thematic reversal from TLJ. The square off in the trailer is Rey representing the Jedi order against the tyranny of the Skywalker clan, whom at this point has done unmeasurable harm to the galaxy.

 gorgon wrote:
Am I wrong that TFA hinted that Kylo was communing with someone...presumably Vader, but now possibly Palpatine?

Anyway, trailer looks good to me. I assume "Rise of Skywalker" refers to Ben/Kylo, after having seized command of the First Order.

And thinking about it in that context, it doesn't feel like this one is going to be a 180 degree thematic reversal from TLJ. The square off in the trailer is Rey representing the Jedi order against the tyranny of the Skywalker clan, whom at this point has done unmeasurable harm to the galaxy.

I don't think this makes very much sense. Kylo may be a Skywalker by blood, but he is NOT a Skywalker by name. So it would be odd for the movie title to refer to him. Kylo himself also associates the Skywalker name with his uncle Luke, not his idol Grappie Vader.

I really think it's referring to Rey. Maybe not as a Skywalker by blood, but THE Skywalker. I'm having a hard time remembering where this came from, but I distinctly remember a reference to old Lore in canon, or an old story concept in which "Skywalker" is a title, not a sir name.

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