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Is “the Emperor is dead, and the whatever-it-is-called beacon is powered by the hundreds or thousands of psykers sacrificed to it each day” a crackpot theory?

What’s required to make it a crackpot theory:
- Golden Throne actually stasis pod, which explains why the Emperor neither dies or gets better. It’s actually preventing the Emperor from recovering, instead of preserving him.
- Abadon and everyone else knows this, it’s what “Death to the False Enperor” refers to.
- Horus and Emperor were betrayed by the Custodes after they reached a truce.

Tyranids are actually the Old Ones and they're trying to devour everything so they can start the universe up again.


Also, 40k is just the craaaaaaazzzzyyy dream of a witch hunter in Nuln and not its own separate universe.

The lost Primarchs rebelled against the Emperor because one was a pure pacifist who refused to take up arms. When Horus and the Emperor found him and couldn't convince him to fight the Emperor simply destroyed him. Horus was sworn to secrecy but the doubts had been planted. Later they came across the 2nd Lost Primarch who had a psychic ability that let him see the truth within someone. When he gazed upon the Emperor he realized what had been done to his peaceful brother and how the Emperor viewed himself and his brothers as simply tools. He rebelled and was ordered killed by Russ but escaped into the warp, his name was Malal.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Ward was good for all armies, he balanced by extremes!

Ward never wrote rules, he wrote fluff.

My crackpot theory is that the primarch of the Alpha legion is actually sitting on the throne, and that the Emperor has actually been missing this entire time. Roboute realized this when he returned to terra at the onset of his awakening and has ever since been unsure of what to do.

Roboute actually spoke to the Emperor in Dark Imperium. Before that I assumed he went in the throne room, had no convorsation, and walked out pretending they just spoke. Turns out that they sis though

The greatest of them all are the Ultramarines.

In defiance of all logic and nuance, Fenris had a world spirit after all, meaning Russ was right and not a total hypocrite (the use of psychic powers within the legions). In a universe so devoid of nuance that the wolves were 100% right, maybe the Ultramarines are actually the best, despite all evidence to the contrary.

Tyranids were created by the old ones just like the Orks and Eldar

The Ecclesiarchy is a long-game ploy by Tzeentch designed to disrupt the Imperium during the Horus Heresy.

It pretty much revolves around Euphrati Keeler, and her first encounter with a daemon aboard the Venegeful Spriit.

As far as the story goes on paper, Kyril Sindermann accidentally summons the Daemon from the Book of Lorgar aboard the Venegeful Spirit. Keeler stood before the creature with the symbol of the Aquila and banished it back into the Warp with the power of her faith.

So, banishing daemons with faith in the Emperor probably isn't a real thing. The Imperium believes Keeler to be a Rogue Pysker and imprisons her as such, but there's no definitive proof that this was ever actually the case either.

The Daemon in question that is allegedly summoned from the Book of Lorgar very neatly meets the description of a Horror. This is a Tzeentchian daemon, which struck me as potentially noteworthy at first - and then again so when she unexpectedly managed to banish the daemon with her 'faith in the Emperor'. Keeler becomes known as a saint and is arguably a massive catalyst for the Lactitio Divinitatus becoming so widespread.

My crackpot theory is that this was a long game ploy by Tzeentch - knowing Sindermann was going to mess around with the Book of Lorgar, he manifested a Horror, and manifested the light that 'banished' the Horror from Keelers palms. He did this because he knew this would be the catalyst that would turn Keeler into a widespread icon of faith, putting a massive spanner in the gears for the Big E's plans for an aesthetic universe.

 gwarsh41 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Ward was good for all armies, he balanced by extremes!

Ward never wrote rules, he wrote fluff.

Just keep telling yourself the 5th ed GK and SM books never happened then.

The Orks are the most numerous race by far in the galaxy, there are whole systems believed to be simply full of Orks and more beyond the galaxy. Orks also have a gestalt collective psychic power, such that things they believe (red trucks go faster, guns work better) actually happen. Finally, Orks love fighting over everything else, and will start wars amongst themselves if they get bored.

And that is why, in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. Because that’s how the Orks want it to be.

 greyknight12 wrote:
The Orks are the most numerous race by far in the galaxy, there are whole systems believed to be simply full of Orks and more beyond the galaxy. Orks also have a gestalt collective psychic power, such that things they believe (red trucks go faster, guns work better) actually happen. Finally, Orks love fighting over everything else, and will start wars amongst themselves if they get bored.

And that is why, in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. Because that’s how the Orks want it to be.

That's not a crack pot theory, that's a fluff suported theory.

epronovost wrote:

 greyknight12 wrote:
The Orks are the most numerous race by far in the galaxy, there are whole systems believed to be simply full of Orks and more beyond the galaxy. Orks also have a gestalt collective psychic power, such that things they believe (red trucks go faster, guns work better) actually happen. Finally, Orks love fighting over everything else, and will start wars amongst themselves if they get bored.

And that is why, in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. Because that’s how the Orks want it to be.

That's not a crack pot theory, that's a fluff suported theory.

I think of it like this: Orks always want war. Orks are effectively impossible to fully exterminate. Therefore Orks are always going to exist and going to seek bigger wars. So there is indeed only war whether it's from weird psychic shenanigans or old fashioned stabbing and bashing.

Jimsolo wrote:Angron is the smartest of the Primarchs. His relentless unthinking aggression is actually a brilliantly thought out strategy that negates most of his opponents advantages.

This isn't crackpot, this is truth. Unthinking, fearless ferocity negates so many war tactics. Just think how quickly WW1 would have ended if either side was completely and utterly undetered by the prospect of charging across no man's land, through machine gun fire, shrugging off missing limbs and giant holes in their bellies, and when they reach the opposite trench, start dual-wield shovels like battle axes.

Malcador the Sigilite and the Emperor are the same person. The golden-skinned giant in the baroque armor depicted as the Emperor is in fact a vat grown meat puppet for distraction and propaganda purposes. Malcador is the Emperor's real body.

Love it.

Urien Rakarth is secretly a Ynnead cultist, with a twist. He knows that when Slaanesh dies, there will be room in the Warp for a new deity; a deity of sensation and torment. He intends to become that deity himself.

That's what I'm talking about! Hell yeah!

When Sanguinius faced Horus he actually turned Traitor aboard the Vengeful Spirit. When the Emperor arrived he killed Sanguinius easily but was wounded enough for Horus to put up a fight.

As a result when the Blood Angels fall victim to the Black Rage they don't see the death of Sanguinius, they see Sanguinius turn Traitor, the shame and impossibility of it driving them insane.




The Lost Legions don' exist. They were fabricated to show the other Legions what would happen should they step out of line. Any evidence of them or the events leading to their "extinction" is simply a psychic fabrication by the Emperor.

I have two, which are really similar.

1) The reason Tau are as successful as they are, and even able to survive against the much larger Factions, is that they are blue. And because Orkz believe blue is lucky, the Tau are benefitting from the mass belief of the greenskins.

2) Same as above, but for Ultramarines.

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:

I like the idea of the tyranids running from something worse, you could imagine them "If you think we are bad, wait till you see the gak that's coming".

Well, if they're running from something, they're not doing a very good job of it, stopping at every planet they can.

 flandarz wrote:
I have two, which are really similar.

1) The reason Tau are as successful as they are, and even able to survive against the much larger Factions, is that they are blue. And because Orkz believe blue is lucky, the Tau are benefitting from the mass belief of the greenskins.

2) Same as above, but for Ultramarines.

The 40k universe is complicated enough for me to be able to spend any more time on any of these theories...

 gwarsh41 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Ward was good for all armies, he balanced by extremes!

Ward never wrote rules, he wrote fluff.

Where did you hear he never did rules just out of curiosity? Part of his title was "Games Designer", not just writer, talked about rules stuff with a fair bit of frequency at events and the like, and I don't recall anyone being head writer for a codex (the person with their name up front) having nothing to do with the rules in that book. AFAIK he also wrote the War of the Ring game in its entirety pretty much.

 Vaktathi wrote:

 gwarsh41 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Ward was good for all armies, he balanced by extremes!

Ward never wrote rules, he wrote fluff.

Where did you hear he never did rules just out of curiosity? Part of his title was "Games Designer", not just writer, talked about rules stuff with a fair bit of frequency at events and the like, and I don't recall anyone being head writer for a codex (the person with their name up front) having nothing to do with the rules in that book. AFAIK he also wrote the War of the Ring game in its entirety pretty much.

I'm pretty sure he wrote for Fantasy as well. Like the oh so lovely High Elves.

pm713 wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

 gwarsh41 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
Ward was good for all armies, he balanced by extremes!

Ward never wrote rules, he wrote fluff.

Where did you hear he never did rules just out of curiosity? Part of his title was "Games Designer", not just writer, talked about rules stuff with a fair bit of frequency at events and the like, and I don't recall anyone being head writer for a codex (the person with their name up front) having nothing to do with the rules in that book. AFAIK he also wrote the War of the Ring game in its entirety pretty much.

I'm pretty sure he wrote for Fantasy as well. Like the oh so lovely High Elves.

Ugh. Super Special Always Strikes First that ignores all the rules that would otherwise nullify Always Strikes First.

And the Banner of the World Dragon (or whatever it was called) which was basically a feth you to anyone playing Daemons (2+ ward save against magical attacks, every unit in the Daemons army book had magical attacks, banner is cheap enough to be taken on a normal standard bearer in a unit from a special unit who cannot be sniped out, units from the special slot can be up to 50% of your army allowance, then stick in up to 25% lords and heroes into that unit and 75% of your army is basically immune everything in the opposing army).

 flandarz wrote:
I have two, which are really similar.

1) The reason Tau are as successful as they are, and even able to survive against the much larger Factions, is that they are blue. And because Orkz believe blue is lucky, the Tau are benefitting from the mass belief of the greenskins.

2) Same as above, but for Ultramarines.

I frickin' love this

RevlidRas wrote:
The current state of Necrons is all a random lark by the Deceiver, who reprogrammed all the Lords to believe they beat the C'tan aeons ago, replaced their personality engrams with those of unused villains from Brendan Fraser's The Mummy series, coated everything in cheap bling, and even managed to convince them that they actually use clearly satirical units like the Tomb Blades.
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Pinching this for my sig.

The original Ethereals who mysteriously appeared on T'au one day were actually members of the 4th Sphere expansion who were thrown back in time when the whole thing went to hell (literally). The mysterious lights were their passenger ships (because if Eldar didn't want to be seen, they wouldn't be seen, even as lights in the sky), and the warp storms were a result of this calamity.

Would explain the strange level of knowledge the T'au had of the wider galaxy before ever leaving their home planet, such as keeping the Firecaste around on a completely peaceful planet for centuries when they should have had no clue if there were even other life forms out there, why the Ethereals went with the obviously bad idea of launching the expansion without further testing, and why they insist on pretending that Aun'Va is still alive. The Ethereals who got sent back genuinely thought he was alive, and to preserve the timeline the Ethereals inscribed a serious of events that must happen to culminate in the 4th Sphere Expansion and the Ethereals being sent back, and one of the things that was inscribed, was Aun'Va being Ethereal Supreme at the time of the disaster, so they pretend he's alive in the hope of repairing the timeline (when in reality its being flowed to a T).

 Formosa wrote:
Tyranids were created by the old ones just like the Orks and Eldar

Or, the Old Ones were preparing for an inter-galactic war against another god-like race in another galaxy. The other race created the tyranids, and the old ones created the Orks. But then the Necrontyr became the Necrons and the war in heaven started and the old ones were wiped out. The orks, set to fighting the galaxy without any guidance or united leadership, and the galaxy was pitched into internal war. Then the tyranids arrived and found this galaxy unprepared.

Think about it; we have 2 races, tyranids and Orks. Both:

Have mysterious, potentially bio-engineered origins
infest anywhere they go, orks with spores, nids with genestealers
create a near endless cycle of war on any planet they go on until the enemy is destroyed
could quite easily be bio-engineered superweapons for galactic war

Think; if Orks had the "brainboyz" to coordinate them, and all of them were to unite and, say, travel to another galaxy, they would be the equivalent of tyranids. The orks would just be a lot more happy about it!

There's even some fluff, where the imperium manage to direct a tyranid fleet onto an ork system. Afterwards, they realise their error - they watch with horror as both races adapt to each other, getting bigger, stronger, and better at killing. I think it ended with "whichever force prevails, they will certainly be a more potent threat than they were before", or something like that. if that doesn't sound like 2 genetic superweapons going at it, I don't know what does.

As it is, orks are an unfinished project for galactic conquest by the old ones.

 Valkyrie wrote:
When Sanguinius faced Horus he actually turned Traitor aboard the Vengeful Spirit. When the Emperor arrived he killed Sanguinius easily but was wounded enough for Horus to put up a fight.

As a result when the Blood Angels fall victim to the Black Rage they don't see the death of Sanguinius, they see Sanguinius turn Traitor, the shame and impossibility of it driving them insane.

This is beautiful. I've just read Fear to Tread. He loved Horus and had to really fight against the red thirst/khornate urges, but in the end was emboldened and strengthened. How do you think he would have been turned?

 Excommunicatus wrote:
The Alpha Legion are secretly loyalist 'cause some rando aliens said it would totes be for the best if they pretended not to be.

Wait, no, that actually happened.

RIGHT!?!?!?

Who else thinks Alpharius agreeing to wipe out the human race after a 10 minute conversation with Xenos was really, REALLY, REAeaeaeaeallllyyyyy badly written? It may have been a case of a very bad writer at the helm, but a primarch hears the argument "Murder every man, woman and child in the galaxy and the space aliens live", then says "Yep. Makes sense. ".

The body of Horus is actually the body of Sanguinius modified to look like Horus so that Abaddon could claim that he did in fact have the body. The real body of Horus was lost/pulled into the Warp/locked in some inquisitorial crypt. The reason why Bile's Horus clone didn't work out was actually was because it was infected with a mutant, highly variant form of the Red Thirst and/or possibly some echo of something very similar to the Black Rage (watch how everyone here tells me that all of these issues have been firmly addressed and that I'm not knowledgeable about basic 40K lore).

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Put on your tin-foil hat, its crack pot theory time.

Mine is that the Tyranids are actually daemons that can stay in the material universe, sent to the milky way by Malal just to mess up the four remaining gods plans.

Who else has some crack-pot theories?

I'm somewhat partial to this one, though I possibly like a little better the theory of the Tyranids' being created by Tsara'noga.

Me likey!
Before there was a demon codex I had a demon army using Nid rules...

I actually have a large group of bloodletters with Tyranid parts to use play as bloodletters. My headcanon is that a number of the ships pulled into the Warp after the Battle of Macragge found themselves stranded in Khorne's domain. Since they had not yet developed a strong defense against Chaos, minus their naturally generating Shadow, the Tyranids were quickly set upon by daemons and soon found themselves on the defensives. Khorne, however, loved the creatures so much that he corrupted them and turned them into Hivefleet Ichor which was completely loyal to him. Like other Tyranids, they feed on almost any kind of biomatter, but they do not destroy skulls, leaving them for Khorne's skull throne.