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Norn Iron

Yes, you're right. I read that bit about switching the resin in the new printer and totally missed that the green parts are from the old printer!

I'm sooo, sooo sorry.

Plog - Random sculpts and OW Helves 9/3/23 
   
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Berlin

Printed the neck section and the Epaulettes - the thingies on top of the shoulders. It should be called Tyrannosaurus having arms that short.
I put the "neck" on the leg assembly for the photograph. It will not be mounted that way.

   
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Norn Iron

Nice! Not long now?

Look at that guy, desecrating the god-machine...

I'm sooo, sooo sorry.

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Berlin

Yet another resin.
Let's look back, sorry at the back.

   
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She’s coming along very well, the new printer seems to have upped the quality quite a bit. The legs have really painted up well, was there much sanding to be done, or did you use a special primer?

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@gobert
Thanks
Neither, nor.
I did a bit of sanding on the front of the thighs only, where the shields will be mounted. Everything else is untouched - after removal of supports obviously.
On the other hand that kind of color scheme / painting will make the model look old and shabby, a bit of a line will just be part of the tear and wear

Im designing the back parts with the radiators at the moment, and hope I will be able to print them overnight.




   
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Berlin

Ok, back with the back.


Yes, I know there is a dividing line.
I'm not sure about the proportions, I will wait for the first coat of paint to make the decision whether they are ok or not.
Talking about proportions, I've got the feeling that the head is too small.
Might have to print it a bit bigger.

I fought a bit with the modelling program to get the top of the sides the shape I wanted. Most likely a user problem

Next is the main body armour. I'll start designing it tomorrow, so there will be no picture tomorrow.

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Berlin

New day, new image.

I printed the main armour and it came out better than I hoped.

I wonder whether the head is a bit too small.

What do you think ?

   
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Berlin

I had a shield day today and yesterday.

So what's left is on last set of shields for tomorrow and than is the Alpha version finished. I most likely will paint it, before making changes for the Beta version.



   
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That progressed surprisingly fast. It looks good, though I'd probably go with less matched leg sheilds. Still gonna look cool on the table.
   
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Berlin

So I gave it a rough paint job - I do not tire to mention that it's just an alpha version - to see better the changes to be made in the beta version.
Some things already under discussion:
The eagle on the lower shield has to be less "historic"
The lower edge of the radiator has to be longer. Reducing the angle of the right edge and/or moving the left edge closer to the weapon.
The lower shield probably less "round".
Wider toes ?
Legs closer together ?








I'll need a pause from the Warhound though - and will start with the beta version in a fortnight.

So this thread comes to an end.
Thanks for the interest.
   
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That looks amazing! If I didn't know better, I'd ask if you were advertising the next Forgeworld Titan model. I've never tried 3D printing, but you've gotten me curious. About how much does it cost to get into it? How much did it cost to make this beautiful death engine? On a different note, are you making these for yourself, or do you plan to sell some copies or even make a production line? I could see myself paying for those, especially if you could make custom variations to order. Like if I wanted a Chaos one with Iconography of the Thousand Sons legion. Maybe even a special head with a shorter semblance of the tall pseudo Egyptian head dress seen on the Rubric Marines. Could be really cool, and you could probably make some money to continue your work on new projects. Idk, I'm getting a bit excited at the thought and going off track, sorry. XD Main point, your work is totally awesome! Are you gonna keep him as a back up piece for when you need an army of titans?
   
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This is a pretty well-done job. Honestly, the "rough" texture on the legs makes it look better to me, more like a real machine that has seen use. Matched with the smoothness of the armor plates, I think it actually is a superior look, even if it was actually just a remnant of the printing process.

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Norn Iron

I'm too awed to offer up much criticism, and I haven't studied the official warhound too much to memorise it's proportions anyway. If you held a gun to my head I'd say, maybe, legs a bit closer, but I don't think it needs much improvement. Lovely work!

I'm sooo, sooo sorry.

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Berlin

@Vermis
I'm not concerned about being an exact copy, more about whether the proportions feel right or wrong. The shields above the feet seem a bit large, but on the other hand they reduce the impression that the legs are too wide apart

@SergentSilver
You have to decide what you want to print first.
In the hobby/enthusiast market there are two competing printing technologies.
Soup and sausage printers.
Soup(Resin-SLA/DLP/LCD) printers use liquid resin that is cured with light and sausages printers (FDM) use different kinds of plastic sausages rolled up in a spool as base material.
Oversimplifying you could say soup printers give you more detail, but the largest printable model will be smaller than with a sausages printer. Soup printers give you usually a smoother surface but the models will be more brittle. Also there are more different kinds of materials (abs, sandstone, wood, nylon, etc.) for FDM printers.
Remember this is a generalisation and you will be able to find examples to contradict this.
The "better" DLP/LCD variants of resin printers print much faster than FDM or SLA printers.

If you want to do small models like 6mm models for Epic, a resin printer would be the better choice.
28mm man to bike, Sentinel, small monster size, a resin printer would usually be the better choice.
For anything larger a FDM printer is usually the better choice.
Right now we are seeing a new crop of resin printers for bigger models - otherwise I wouldn't have done the Warhound as an all resin model.
Point is the generalisation printers cost 300+€ Resin printers usually a bit (just a bit) more expensive. Conversion rate $ to € for 3D printer stuff is probably 1:1
If you choose a "better" printer, a "brand" printer or one who defies the generalisation you will be above 1000€. For a resin printer for a model like the Warhound you will have to pay 2000€+.
The resin for the Warhound will be about 100-200€ (depending on the brand and kind of resin). Filament (what FDM printers use) will cost only half. But you wouldn't get surfaces as smooth and some of the details may be lost.
As I did a lot of test prints and had some fails I did spent more like 250€.
Regarding the files.
I only do this for my own. I will not make the files available. There are different reasons, one of them being potential copyright problems.
I do not know what I will use this one for. Probably turn it into a piece of terrain or give it away at "Secret Santa" or keep it for an before/after

I do 3D printing, because it allows me to "make" my own miniatures. I would be able to do a decent tank using traditional techniques, but miniatures made from green stuff to be cast is beyond my abilities.
I mention this, because if that is not your goal, you will be dependent on what models are available. The number is ever increasing, still I would check first whether you can find what you are looking for. And not all models will print perfectly on the first try and some not at all. You must be willing to invest time and to show some commitment.
   
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brumbaer wrote:
@Vermis
I'm not concerned about being an exact copy, more about whether the proportions feel right or wrong. The shields above the feet seem a bit large, but on the other hand they reduce the impression that the legs are too wide apart

@SergentSilver
You have to decide what you want to print first.
In the hobby/enthusiast market there are two competing printing technologies.
Soup and sausage printers.
Soup(Resin-SLA/DLP/LCD) printers use liquid resin that is cured with light and sausages printers (FDM) use different kinds of plastic sausages rolled up in a spool as base material.
Oversimplifying you could say soup printers give you more detail, but the largest printable model will be smaller than with a sausages printer. Soup printers give you usually a smoother surface but the models will be more brittle. Also there are more different kinds of materials (abs, sandstone, wood, nylon, etc.) for FDM printers.
Remember this is a generalisation and you will be able to find examples to contradict this.
The "better" DLP/LCD variants of resin printers print much faster than FDM or SLA printers.

If you want to do small models like 6mm models for Epic, a resin printer would be the better choice.
28mm man to bike, Sentinel, small monster size, a resin printer would usually be the better choice.
For anything larger a FDM printer is usually the better choice.
Right now we are seeing a new crop of resin printers for bigger models - otherwise I wouldn't have done the Warhound as an all resin model.
Point is the generalisation printers cost 300+€ Resin printers usually a bit (just a bit) more expensive. Conversion rate $ to € for 3D printer stuff is probably 1:1
If you choose a "better" printer, a "brand" printer or one who defies the generalisation you will be above 1000€. For a resin printer for a model like the Warhound you will have to pay 2000€+.
The resin for the Warhound will be about 100-200€ (depending on the brand and kind of resin). Filament (what FDM printers use) will cost only half. But you wouldn't get surfaces as smooth and some of the details may be lost.
As I did a lot of test prints and had some fails I did spent more like 250€.
Regarding the files.
I only do this for my own. I will not make the files available. There are different reasons, one of them being potential copyright problems.
I do not know what I will use this one for. Probably turn it into a piece of terrain or give it away at "Secret Santa" or keep it for an before/after

I do 3D printing, because it allows me to "make" my own miniatures. I would be able to do a decent tank using traditional techniques, but miniatures made from green stuff to be cast is beyond my abilities.
I mention this, because if that is not your goal, you will be dependent on what models are available. The number is ever increasing, still I would check first whether you can find what you are looking for. And not all models will print perfectly on the first try and some not at all. You must be willing to invest time and to show some commitment.


Thank you for that insight. Do you have any suggestions for a starter kit right now? Something good for 28mm scale. Also, I wasn't even considering the possibility of sharing the files, just selling commission prints of the model on a by order basis. Like, could I pay you $250-300 for one once you are done with the final product? Or even a bit more, say $350-400 to change the Imperial Eagles to Chaos Undivided symbols and give it short tusks. Now I'm not a lawyer, but given the immense amount of 40k-like models available from innumerable sources, I highly doubt GW would even take notice of you. You could probably make an Etsy store for commissioned models if you want. Idk, it sounds like it would be kinda fun, though I definitely appreciate the time, effort, and skill that you put into this model so far, and this is only the alpha you say. Whatever you do, I am eager to see more of this as soon as you're ready to continue. On that note, do you think you could record yourself working in the program a bit? Would make a cool time lapse progress video and give all us watchers a look into just how much time and effort and skill it really takes to do what you do.
   
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Berlin

I do resin printing since 2013 when resin printers were far in between and really expensive (10k+), so I'm too far away from the problem to give a good recommendation for a starter kit. But there are a million of "experts" on model printing on the web who will most likely have one.

The same is true for modelling videos. There should be plenty on youtube showing how to model whatever. Best of all they will use a widely used application, while I use an application more suited for visual than model design.

I will not do "designing and printing on demand". I'm just not interested in spending time with any of its facets. And the money to be made is not enough to compensate for that - or the time lost. The price would have to be 5k+ to get me tempted and luckily no one will be willing to pay that.

I'm 60 and not driven by a need for money, I do this for the fun in designing such a beast and being able to say "I did this myself" - which I literally didn't The printer did "make" it and FW invented the look anyway



   
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brumbaer wrote:
I do resin printing since 2013 when resin printers were far in between and really expensive (10k+), so I'm too far away from the problem to give a good recommendation for a starter kit. But there are a million of "experts" on model printing on the web who will most likely have one.

The same is true for modelling videos. There should be plenty on youtube showing how to model whatever. Best of all they will use a widely used application, while I use an application more suited for visual than model design.

I will not do "designing and printing on demand". I'm just not interested in spending time with any of its facets. And the money to be made is not enough to compensate for that - or the time lost. The price would have to be 5k+ to get me tempted and luckily no one will be willing to pay that.

I'm 60 and not driven by a need for money, I do this for the fun in designing such a beast and being able to say "I did this myself" - which I literally didn't The printer did "make" it and FW invented the look anyway



Haha, fair enough. I hope I can have the time, skills, and financial stability you do when I get to 60. I must admit a bit of disappointment I won't be able to have one of your sculpts, they look amazing, but I am excited to try and make my own someday. Again, thank you for showing us all your amazing work, and I think I speak for many of us here when I say, "Please keep up the awesome work and we eagerly await your future projects."
   
 
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