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Affton, MO. USA

While I’m all for getting my plastic crack habit back, I think it’s too soon.

Reopen the online. Sure.

Reopen distribution to their main accounts. Sure.

Opening stores where anyone can go in without knowing if the customers are clear or not (since asymptotic seems to be pervasive with this virus) is reckless. I trust the GW guy to know if someone is playing Nurgle, but not to take temperatures or ask the qualifying questions.

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The concept in their article is basically the same as all the stores here in Germany are using since this week, with masks already being mandatory in some cities and states and probably for everyone by the end of the week.
They all have a maximum number of customers they allow inside and many have a route you have to walk along, no more free exploring/wandering about so you can't bump into other customers. You go in, buy whatever you need, pay with a contactless payment method if possible and leave.
For really small stores, they put a table into their door where you can tell them what you want from a distance and they get it for you.

I see no reason why GW can't be open if the same concept has worked for hardware stores and art supplies for most of the pandemic.

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 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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UK

 Jidmah wrote:

For really small stores, they put a table into their door where you can tell them what you want from a distance and they get it for you..


This is actually how many stores used to work until quite recently. The whole idea of you, the customer, walking around picking up whatever you wanted is quite new. In the past the shopkeeper fetched what you required and showed you thinks to look at. There was far less browsing as such as we know it today and even when you browsed you weren't picking it up.


Of course commercially its been proven that browsing helps increase sales, hence why its proven popular; and it also lets you serve many more customers and have large inventories and wider ranges of products etc... But short term I could certainly see GW being able to do that; esp for return customers.

   
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Maybe, but my experience with the stores I have been to (which are as little as possible) is that the vast majority of people aren't browsing, but buying what they came for and leave as soon as possible. Both because they don't want to be infected either and because there tend to be lines outside stores and people are waiting for you to leave.
Smaller stores (anything than supports less than twenty people) even ask you to leave if you start browsing.

To apply this to a GW store, I fully expect people to go in there, beeline for the painting rack/shelf with their army on it, get what they need, pay and leave. Then the next customer enters.

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 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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Florence, KY

My local shops are almost all doing curbside service. Call in your order and they will let you know what they have. Drive to the store and give them a call to let them now you've arrived. They'll bring out your order and the wireless credit card reader to pay and then you're good to go.

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From the artwork, it does appear that they'll be doing a version of the "five customers at a time" schtick. So I imagine they'll have lines of people waiting outside to come in, just to buy. No gaming, etc.
   
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I'm hoping the local GW here will be able to open, BC's been really falltening the curve. my FEAR is even if my entire country has it beat we'll be screwed because we're effectively joined at the hip with the US US distribution wise and the US... has a long way to go

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BrianDavion wrote:
I'm hoping the local GW here will be able to open, BC's been really falltening the curve. my FEAR is even if my entire country has it beat we'll be screwed because we're effectively joined at the hip with the US US distribution wise and the US... has a long way to go


Flattening the curve is great, but if we reopen it's just going to spike up again.

The real test will be in a week or so when we find out what happened with everyone going out over the Easter long weekend...

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 Compel wrote:
I'm angry and disappointed, I get emotive.

Anyway, I've said my piece, screamed into the void, I'm done.


They're not doing it in the UK and the US, including their factories. They're also not doing it anywhere right now.

But if NZ starts to open up having largely beaten the virus, no reason to keep the stores there closed.
This update is aimed more at this kind of thing - it's an international business with it's factories located in two of the worst hit countries, so even if the NZ branches open up this is a reminder that they're not going to be able to restock other than things that are already in the country.
   
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New Zealand

Here in NZ we are going down to level 3 lockdown, from level 4, after the ANZAC weekend. Under level 3 GW stores would still not allowed to be open. Only essential businesses are allowed open and food delivery/contactless pickup. Our Govt does not consider GW stores to be essential. We may disagree however.

The article looks like what we are having with supermarkets. Only a certain number allowed in the store at one time and 2m+ between customers.
   
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 Crazyterran wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm hoping the local GW here will be able to open, BC's been really falltening the curve. my FEAR is even if my entire country has it beat we'll be screwed because we're effectively joined at the hip with the US US distribution wise and the US... has a long way to go


Flattening the curve is great, but if we reopen it's just going to spike up again..



I know.. I just want my plastic crack so can't blame me for hoping things get well eneugh for it to happen here soon *withdrawl shakes*


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Presumably Finland would get store opened up in first wave. Whopping 1 store But stores as a whole have been staying open including the FLGS.

German looks obvious candinate seeing they are easing up restrictions. Ditto for norway and wasn't denmark easing up?

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 Dryaktylus wrote:
Good pic. The Stormcast has full PPE, as has the Mechanicus guy (to protect the elderly punk - he's part of the risk-group). The Cadian and the Dark Eldar have to keep safe distance - the Cadian isn't part of a command squad and too poor to pay Forge World prices to get a respirator mask and the Dark Eldar girl too conceited to wear a helmet - can't be helped.



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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Overread wrote:
Of course any reduction in lockdowns is likely to set the whole cycle going again, that's basically almost a given util you can inoculate the population.


It really isn't though. A sufficiently rigorous testing, contact tracing, and quarantining regime coupled with some modest behavioural adjustments(moderate physical distancing and probably wearing masks in public) and a continued ban on large social gatherings/events allows the lockdown to be lifted while still bringing the outbreak under control. The point of the lockdown in sane countries is to bring the rate of infection down to the point where test & trace can work, and to build testing capacity - it's only the herd immunity zealots and talk radio numpties who're peddling the false choice between "lockdown/s until a vaccine" or "let 'er rip!".

Providing GW is only reopening in places that have adopted the above strategy, I don't think that's irresponsible. If they do just start opening stores because a given government says they can regardless of other factors, yeah that's a Tim Martin-tier dick move.

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 techsoldaten wrote:
Ordinarily, we don't think about death much, but Covid-19 has been saving lives.

Where I live, mortality is more than 50% below annual averages thanks to stay at home orders. The fact people are not driving is a big factor. Nurses are making Tic-Tok videos at the hospital because there's no one there. The people who have been dying are mostly 70 years or older and the majority had a pre-existing condition.

That must be nice. Here in Madrid, OTOH, we've needed to put bodies on an ice rink because all the morgues were full. Then, we needed to find another place to put more, because the ice rink filled, too.

And it's not just "old people" or "people with conditions" either. Except for children, it's basically killing whoever the feth it wants. And nurses.

Don't tell me that "Covid-19 has been saving lives" when we have so many thousands of bodies that we can't even keep up burning them.

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 Compel wrote:
 Compel wrote:

Like even, even if you accept that this is only in some countries that have gone past the peak


Apparently I was too subtle...

GW is going to have blood on their hands, from both their customers and staff. And it's not going to be a Contrast paint.


No, they aren't. Calm down.

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Here, if anyone ends up with blood on hands, it’d be governments lifting lockdown too early.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Here, if anyone ends up with blood on hands, it’d be governments lifting lockdown too early.

Mainly, yes, unless a company decides to to something their local govenrment don't allow.

OTOH, any company can decide to adhere to a more strict set of restrictions, if it so chooses.
   
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Bodt

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Here, if anyone ends up with blood on hands, it’d be governments lifting lockdown too early.


I think there needs to be targeted approaches to restrictions, rather than a blanket set of rules/guidelines. especially as its fairly clear that we cant be kept in this state indefinitely.

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 Albertorius wrote:
 techsoldaten wrote:
Ordinarily, we don't think about death much, but Covid-19 has been saving lives.

Where I live, mortality is more than 50% below annual averages thanks to stay at home orders. The fact people are not driving is a big factor. Nurses are making Tic-Tok videos at the hospital because there's no one there. The people who have been dying are mostly 70 years or older and the majority had a pre-existing condition.

That must be nice. Here in Madrid, OTOH, we've needed to put bodies on an ice rink because all the morgues were full. Then, we needed to find another place to put more, because the ice rink filled, too.

And it's not just "old people" or "people with conditions" either. Except for children, it's basically killing whoever the feth it wants. And nurses.

Don't tell me that "Covid-19 has been saving lives" when we have so many thousands of bodies that we can't even keep up burning them.


This. If anyone is at all under the impression that this thing just kills old people, think again. Healthy nurses and doctors in their 30s are dropping like flies with this thing. In Ireland the government has set up temporary morgues just like in Spain. Our death rate has increased by 50% over a month. Normally 80 people a day pass away, that's gone up to between 120-160. There's been mass burials in New York for goodness' sake.

I can't see responsible governments allowing a shop that sells toy soldiers to open up any time soon.
   
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 Overread wrote:

People have been bidding £10 on regular paints!


£10 for GW paint... That is bonkers. Pretty sure Army Painter are still doing deliveries. Sure their P&P can be a bit high of you do a small order, bit big orders get free P&P.

Back on topic. Really hope GW can keep their staff safe while doing a phased re-opening.

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Bodt

people are crazy. I couldnt say whether its just a fanboy thing where some people are too stubborn and wont use other brands, or maybe they dont know about the other brands. I've just looked at Vallejo on amazon and they are selling at normal price.

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For me it’s not having an artistic bone in my body.

Thankfully snaffled the Contrast ones I needed from Darksphere, so good to go on my Ossiarchs.

But if they weren’t available, I wouldn’t know where to start to find matching colours for the existing GW paints in my collection. So, nothing against other lines, just zero knowledge in them, and zero confidence in my own abilities.

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
people are crazy. I couldnt say whether its just a fanboy thing where some people are too stubborn and wont use other brands, or maybe they dont know about the other brands. I've just looked at Vallejo on amazon and they are selling at normal price.


A lot of it has to do with people being introduced to wargaming and spending a lot of their hobby time in GW stores, where GW products are naturally being promoted as superior. For some people it's hard to get rid of this induced bias, especially younger customers.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
For me it’s not having an artistic bone in my body.

Thankfully snaffled the Contrast ones I needed from Darksphere, so good to go on my Ossiarchs.

But if they weren’t available, I wouldn’t know where to start to find matching colours for the existing GW paints in my collection. So, nothing against other lines, just zero knowledge in them, and zero confidence in my own abilities.


Yep.

Nobody has yet been able to give 100% match to ulthuan grey in army painter(only non-gw i can get without mail order. Any range that needs mail order is viable only as specific colour for specific use) range. Have asked, nobody can provide 100% matching shae. Not 99%, not 50%

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
people are crazy. I couldnt say whether its just a fanboy thing where some people are too stubborn and wont use other brands, or maybe they dont know about the other brands. I've just looked at Vallejo on amazon and they are selling at normal price.


Also, this. Vallejo are wonderful paints. Ditto army painter and P3.

The 'hobby' isn't just GW. Time to branch out and throw some other companies a few shekels. As for them not exactly matching GW's colours, unless you do a chemical analysis of the models literally nobody is going to know the difference. Especially when you throw a few washes or glazes over them.
   
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There’s also the normal convenience.

In my town, I’m lucky enough to have two sources of Citadel paints within walking distance. That of course means when I need to get a new pot, I can just take a wander up the hill to town (or drive if I really can’t be bothered) and grab what I need.

That’s more convenient for me than looking to mail order. Nothing to do with the relevant properties, pros and cons of different ranges. I’m just all about the convenience.

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Yeah but no matter what paint brand you choose, once you're comitted you're more likely to stick with it till your whole army is painted up. Also many people are not artistic so they paint to a formula. If their paint isn't sold they can't keep to the formula and process and they don't have experience/confidence to branch out.

So they stick to the brand they know.

   
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Bodt

Yeah but we're talking about fools paying £10 for pots of paint on ebay.

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 Compel wrote:
 Compel wrote:

Like even, even if you accept that this is only in some countries that have gone past the peak


Apparently I was too subtle...

GW is going to have blood on their hands, from both their customers and staff. And it's not going to be a Contrast paint.


Ridiculous, if GW do reopen you don't have to go there. If you choose to that's up to you.

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