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trexmeyer wrote:Well competing for worst you have Last Stand, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine. I have a hard time believing TNM is worse than any of those.
Backfire wrote:Saw it, and it was very uneven quality. In some parts it was great, particularly in the first half of the movie. Some parts were very clumsy and felt like straight-to-video effort. This really would have needed some 20+ minutes of reshoots and few more millions for special effects. Much of the final battle was off-screen and the ending was slightly anti-climatic.
Honestly the description here sounds like everything wrong with all the X-Man movies in my book (with the sole exception of Logan). X-Men, X2, and Days of Future Past were successful in spite of these flaws, not because they lacked them. I've always seen the Fox films for this franchise as uneven and sorely lacking in enthusiasm.
Honestly the description here sounds like everything wrong with all the X-Man movies in my book (with the sole exception of Logan). X-Men, X2, and Days of Future Past were successful in spite of these flaws, not because they lacked them. I've always seen the Fox films for this franchise as uneven and sorely lacking in enthusiasm.
They do not have the constant quality most of the MCU films have, for sure - Days of the Future Past is only one which really is good by any standard. X1 & X2 were good in their day but just do not hold up by todays standards. For X1 they had modest budget and smartly spent bulk of it in getting a great cast.So you have these great actors doing good job with their characters in B-movie like action scenes.
Still I distinctly remember the chills opening of the X1 gave me in the theatre. Trailers had not looked good and my expectations were not high. And I was like "What the...1944...is that kid Magneto? They're going to stay true with his backstory?? Holy moly!!" For all its flaws, X1 was groundbreaking because up until that superhero movies, even the ones which were good, had mostly been silly stuff. And now they open with a brutal scene from god damn concentration camp.
Then on the other hand you had stuff like 'Last Stand' or first two Wolverine movies which were completely misguided in every aspect with little to no redeeming features.
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trexmeyer wrote:Well competing for worst you have Last Stand, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine. I have a hard time believing TNM is worse than any of those.
Backfire wrote:Saw it, and it was very uneven quality. In some parts it was great, particularly in the first half of the movie. Some parts were very clumsy and felt like straight-to-video effort. This really would have needed some 20+ minutes of reshoots and few more millions for special effects. Much of the final battle was off-screen and the ending was slightly anti-climatic.
Honestly the description here sounds like everything wrong with all the X-Man movies in my book (with the sole exception of Logan). X-Men, X2, and Days of Future Past were successful in spite of these flaws, not because they lacked them. I've always seen the Fox films for this franchise as uneven and sorely lacking in enthusiasm.
The second Wolverine movie isn't bad outside of the weird shift in the third act with Silver Samurai. The core issue is that they work so hard to be grounded and real and then can't find a way to handle the more comic booky elements required for a marketable supervillain. Even in Logan it drives me crazy they went with evil younger clone as opposed to... like literally anything else.
It was really tiresome how Wolverine always fought a version of himself. X1, X2, Origins, Logan...of course that is a common problem with superhero movies (Iron Man, anyone...?)
It was huge mistake try to make Wolverine solo movie with PG-13 rating. When Wolverine skyrocketed into popularity, his solo issues were more adult and graphic than relatively kid-friendly adventures with X-men. They should have used same approach with Wolverine movies.
I don't recall many Logan-Illyana interactions - they could have been quite interesting given the darkness in both their pasts.
Oh come on, this famous banter is pure Deadpool
Sorry donlt recall it, must have been after i stopped reading it.
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
I don't recall many Logan-Illyana interactions - they could have been quite interesting given the darkness in both their pasts.
Yeah, me neither. I don't think they have interacted much. It's true Magik was pretty much the Wolverine of the New Mutants and it might be interesting if they interacted more. They were on opposite sides in AVX and its fallout. I liked post-AVX setup where Wolverine and Storm set up their school following Xavier's ideals, and Cyclops took Magik, Magneto and Emma Frost and estabilished an outlaw hardliner group. It was lovely dynamic and every now & then, Cyclops & his crew would teleport on Wolverine's front lawn, looking intimidating as hell and all the 'good' X-Men would lose their gak.
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Backfire wrote: New Mutants to be released in Digital and home media November 17th.
Deleted scene - why this was deleted, no idea.
Its kinda dull, to be honest. Marbles that eventually roll back to the roller isn't exactly tension. (how'd they find this out, and why they didn't decide it was part of somebody's powers is beyond me)
Other than that its teen girl prisoners huffily sorting out gossip and pecking order. [Protip: do that somewhere other than the Queen Bee's actual room]
