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Craftworld Eldar - specifically, Biel Tan. Years of Eldar being OP & the model range being horrifically dated has always kept me way. They need a major update on the scale of what Necrons have received

Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

All their most price-inefficient stuff is bundled together in the SC box for a nice discount. Buy a few of those, and you've got your Ridgerunners, you've got your neophytes and you've got your Acolytes all in one go plus a bonus character you can convert to be a Primus, a Kelermorph, and an Iconward easily. And by easily I mean, the acolyte kit comes with a Bonesword and many many autopistols right in the box. it's a REALLY REALLY easy conversion.

3x SC Boxes, 3x Goliath Trucks (super easy to magnetize so they can be Rockgrinders as well), 1x Jackal Alphus and that's close to an optimized army right there.

Sure its not space marines out of starter boxes level cheap but I'd bet it'd be cheaper than equal points of pretty much any other army buying individual kits.

the_scotsman wrote:
Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

In some ways the issue isn't always "but prices" its more "but prices ontop of all the other stuff I'm already buying and collecting"

the_scotsman wrote:
Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

All their most price-inefficient stuff is bundled together in the SC box for a nice discount. Buy a few of those, and you've got your Ridgerunners, you've got your neophytes and you've got your Acolytes all in one go plus a bonus character you can convert to be a Primus, a Kelermorph, and an Iconward easily. And by easily I mean, the acolyte kit comes with a Bonesword and many many autopistols right in the box. it's a REALLY REALLY easy conversion.

3x SC Boxes, 3x Goliath Trucks (super easy to magnetize so they can be Rockgrinders as well), 1x Jackal Alphus and that's close to an optimized army right there.

Sure its not space marines out of starter boxes level cheap but I'd bet it'd be cheaper than equal points of pretty much any other army buying individual kits.

Acolytes are far and away GSC's best Troop choice. £25 for 5 models isn't great and buying three of them bundled in the very new SC you're only getting fifteen of them when most lists want at least 20, most competitive even more. It was fine when you could still get Overkill splits floating around with like 20 of the buggers, but you're still paying 'elite unit prices' for a spammed unit. Sure you can fluff out the list with those Neophytes, but none's really doing that because it's ideal.

As Overread said though, it's not just prices. They're a horde army with extremely detailed models (detail on a HQ? Great. Loads of detail on 60+ guys? not so much), their playstyle is tricky and suffers more than any other 'dex at the hands of codex/edition creep since their playstyle is so wrapped up in manipulating mechanics and their lore is grim even by 40k Standards - Your Dudes are useful idiots who're probably going to get devoured haplessly if they do their job too well.

Ironically they're not that pricey to dip into if you're already a Guard player. An NPC Faction inside an NPC Faction!

Orks

What turns me out was because the boys look kinda old already and the amount of time required to have a horde army battle-ready. However, the main reason is space. I have no so much space left in my home to store in proper conditions another horde army.

 Overread wrote:
You can now

I own plenty of original titanicus models, and they didn't cost £400 for the first six models with no alternate weapons.

A.T. wrote:

 Overread wrote:
You can now

I own plenty of original titanicus models, and they didn't cost £400 for the first six models with no alternate weapons.

True, but things like warlords were more than half as small and even in metal weren't quite as detailed.

For me its three different marine chapters. This is no particular order.

1. Howling Griffons Space Marines

I really like the paint scheme of the chapter and I think they would look great on the tabletop.

2. Emperor's Hawks Space Marines

I like the fluff of the hawks using landspeeders and assault squads to confront the enemy up front in addition to the paint scheme.

3. Alpha Legion

Why not like Alpha Legion? The fluff is awesome and the paint scheme is even cooler.

 Arbitrator wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

All their most price-inefficient stuff is bundled together in the SC box for a nice discount. Buy a few of those, and you've got your Ridgerunners, you've got your neophytes and you've got your Acolytes all in one go plus a bonus character you can convert to be a Primus, a Kelermorph, and an Iconward easily. And by easily I mean, the acolyte kit comes with a Bonesword and many many autopistols right in the box. it's a REALLY REALLY easy conversion.

3x SC Boxes, 3x Goliath Trucks (super easy to magnetize so they can be Rockgrinders as well), 1x Jackal Alphus and that's close to an optimized army right there.

Sure its not space marines out of starter boxes level cheap but I'd bet it'd be cheaper than equal points of pretty much any other army buying individual kits.

Acolytes are far and away GSC's best Troop choice. £25 for 5 models isn't great and buying three of them bundled in the very new SC you're only getting fifteen of them when most lists want at least 20, most competitive even more. It was fine when you could still get Overkill splits floating around with like 20 of the buggers, but you're still paying 'elite unit prices' for a spammed unit. Sure you can fluff out the list with those Neophytes, but none's really doing that because it's ideal.

As Overread said though, it's not just prices. They're a horde army with extremely detailed models (detail on a HQ? Great. Loads of detail on 60+ guys? not so much), their playstyle is tricky and suffers more than any other 'dex at the hands of codex/edition creep since their playstyle is so wrapped up in manipulating mechanics and their lore is grim even by 40k Standards - Your Dudes are useful idiots who're probably going to get devoured haplessly if they do their job too well.

Ironically they're not that pricey to dip into if you're already a Guard player. An NPC Faction inside an NPC Faction!

Yep, Acolytes are fairly pricy. More realistically if you're creative it's actually 35$/25 britbux for 7, since you can quite easily kitbash the extra torsos with 3rd gen legs from the neophytes kits, which can get you up to a full squad of 20 but, mostly I've been running 15.

Acolyte spam is only one playstyle. The SC box favors mechanized neophytes+1 big acolyte bomb over acolyte spam.

Personally, I'd go for acolyte spam as deep strike/chaff clearing/scoring support for nidzilla allies, rather than making it my whole list.

Always wanted to build a Thousand Sons army, both for 40k and 30k.

For 40k, I'm not a fan of the ridiculous amount of detail the Rubrics have. Basic units already take me a while and they'd take so much longer to paint to a point where I am happy.

For 30k, I was avoiding them as they're a game system I'm not invested in and red metallics would be difficult to achieve for an army and not look awful. I even have Ahriman on paperclips ready for paint but lord knows that's a project I'll distract myself with.

My current main armies in 40K are Imperial Guard and Tyranids. I have also collected some Deathwatch to back up my Guard against the Tyranid menace and some Genestealer Cult to give my Tyranids some allies.

I’ve wanted some Grey Knights for some time, even if it’s just a Kill Team. The reason I haven’t got them is that I know at some point I would want something suitable for them to fight against. Then my plan for a Slaanesh themed Chaos army would come into play. Even including some Slaanesh themed Renegades & Heretics.

So for the sake of my wallet and space in my house I am abstaining from collecting a small Grey Knights force.

AdMech. I love the models, particularly the Kataphron guys, and really like most of the new stuff. I've even got several squads and a few HQ from various boxed sets in the pile of shame.

But they've always ended up being a bridesmaid rather than the bride. First I was going to put 1k of them with my 1k Imperial Guard tank army, as the current IG troopers are just too goofy for me to want to use. Then Chaos got relaunched and they have really been my "main" army since I got into this in 2E. I was looking at them again and Indomitus was released, and now I've got a pile of Necrons to turn into an army. Someday I will get around to them.

I like tau, but it's mainly the infantry and the alien auxiliaries i like. Now, I'm not at all worried about competitiveness, but I just feel like i can't paint tau up to how i would want them to look, and it's just so tough to even try to get ahold of kroot and such, I just haven't got around to it yet.

Dark mech Decimator maniple:

Basically the HQ is inexistend and the decimators too expensive with shoulderpads that are INFAMOUS for beeing bent out of shape, including the one i own.

I've always wanted to start Imperial Knights but haven't. The main reason being I still want to be able to show my face at the local club and find opponents.

This probably doesn't count because I actually had a 'nid army waaaaayyyyyy back in the day. It was 2nd ed. though, I only had it for a few years, and I don't know what happened to it.

I've looked at starting them fresh at least once in almost every edition. I came REALLY close to pulling the trigger recently, but the removal of Shrikes killed it for me. I know they weren't great, but I had this big theme in mind. Without them it doesn't work.

The other times I came close and stopped it was largely my hobby ADD. I couldn't land in a single cohesive paint job I liked. Every time I think about it, I get -this close- to a scheme I'm happy with but I'm never quite happy enough to do it. Still want to though!

In addition to my original post, I've been circling around picking up an AoS army for years. I feel the models are much better looking than most 40k, but literally no one in my group of friends or at the game store I go to plays AoS. I could go to another shop or try to convert some people, but everyone I know is too deep in 40k to start another GW game. I've heavily debated picking up demons since they're the same models for 40k and AoS, but have never liked their rules in 40k.

Up until about a month ago... I had always wanted to play Tau, but never started because I was already playing Guard and playing the 2 "shootiest" armies in the game seemed silly.

But then I bought some models for Kill Team. And then another person offered me a good deal, and then I had a Riptide at another great price... so yeah... Now I have about 2000 points of Tau picked up on the VERY cheap.


I would probably pick up Necrons, but I have a friend that has 20 000 or so points of them, so if I ever wanted to give them a go I could borrow his. I wouldn't mind having *one* Knight as a centre piece for my Guard Army, but they're expensive and I don't know if running one of them would really work in my Mixed Bag army.

IG. It's the infantry models that don't quite do it for me, Cadians are fairly ugly and plain, all of the cool ones are metal/resin with limited weapon options, limited model options generally... they just aren't well supported by GW. I'd love plastic Valhallans, Steel Legion or Tallarn to match the range Cadians have

As it is, orks appeal to me in the same ways IG do, but I prefer the models and they're both non Imperium and xenos

the_scotsman wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
Man, so many people are saying GSC but muh prices but like. They're not that bad comparative to other factions.

All their most price-inefficient stuff is bundled together in the SC box for a nice discount. Buy a few of those, and you've got your Ridgerunners, you've got your neophytes and you've got your Acolytes all in one go plus a bonus character you can convert to be a Primus, a Kelermorph, and an Iconward easily. And by easily I mean, the acolyte kit comes with a Bonesword and many many autopistols right in the box. it's a REALLY REALLY easy conversion.

3x SC Boxes, 3x Goliath Trucks (super easy to magnetize so they can be Rockgrinders as well), 1x Jackal Alphus and that's close to an optimized army right there.

Sure its not space marines out of starter boxes level cheap but I'd bet it'd be cheaper than equal points of pretty much any other army buying individual kits.

Acolytes are far and away GSC's best Troop choice. £25 for 5 models isn't great and buying three of them bundled in the very new SC you're only getting fifteen of them when most lists want at least 20, most competitive even more. It was fine when you could still get Overkill splits floating around with like 20 of the buggers, but you're still paying 'elite unit prices' for a spammed unit. Sure you can fluff out the list with those Neophytes, but none's really doing that because it's ideal.

As Overread said though, it's not just prices. They're a horde army with extremely detailed models (detail on a HQ? Great. Loads of detail on 60+ guys? not so much), their playstyle is tricky and suffers more than any other 'dex at the hands of codex/edition creep since their playstyle is so wrapped up in manipulating mechanics and their lore is grim even by 40k Standards - Your Dudes are useful idiots who're probably going to get devoured haplessly if they do their job too well.

Ironically they're not that pricey to dip into if you're already a Guard player. An NPC Faction inside an NPC Faction!

Yep, Acolytes are fairly pricy. More realistically if you're creative it's actually 35$/25 britbux for 7, since you can quite easily kitbash the extra torsos with 3rd gen legs from the neophytes kits, which can get you up to a full squad of 20 but, mostly I've been running 15.

Acolyte spam is only one playstyle. The SC box favors mechanized neophytes+1 big acolyte bomb over acolyte spam.

Personally, I'd go for acolyte spam as deep strike/chaff clearing/scoring support for nidzilla allies, rather than making it my whole list.

I’m of the opinion that the scariest GSC list out there atm is one spamming both Neophytes and min size Acolyte units, in different detachments.

I definitely wouldn’t use Acolyte spam to support Nidzilla, chaff clearing is not a weakness for Nidzilla and they need as much T7-8 saturation as possible



Just on the topic of detail on the GSC baseline modes - Jesus Christ there is so much!! It REALLY takes a lot of work to get Neophytes and Acolyte looking good. It’s the number one thing stopping me from properly expanding my GSC force, enough for an allied detachment was where I decided to stop.

I always wanted to start Eldar, but those aspect warriors are just too old. I have a feeling like the entire line will start getting re-vamped soon. I feel like the same is true for Imperial Guard also.

Always wanted to start Necrons too. These new sculpts have definitely piqued my interest.

Eldar ilyandan (if that's how you spell it?)wraith host

I never started it because I feel like it'd be too much with my current collection. Maybe if I sold an army. But if I made this one it would be made with only wraiths and such it'd be very fluffy and focused army unlike my marines

Sisters of Battle in 3rd, and refused to as I detest pewter.

Exodite Eldar. Because they don't exist.

I have an Eldar army, but it's mostly inherited from a friend who gave it to me because he didn't want it anymore.

I'd love to put some time into making it a real army, but I don't want FineCost Aspects/characters. I am willing to wait until all Aspects are plastic.

As for an army I never started, well, really the only one I don't have is Sisters. So by default it's them. I mean, I don't have a Dark Eldar army, but I have a bunch of DE units that I bought specifically for the RPG, so it's a lot of infantry and zero vehicles.

I'd love to play AT or BFG, but the former is shockingly expensive to the point of being insulting, and the other no longer exists in the modern context (and I don't want giant metal models on pathetic flight stands).

Rak'gol
Pros: it'd be an epic modeling project
Cons: it'd be an epic modeling project

Overread wrote:

A.T. wrote:
I could never justify the cost of a titan legion.

Actually I think the belief that i'd butcher the paint job put me off getting a warhound as much as the price did.

You can now https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boxed-Games?N=3281529261+3699755487&Nr=AND%28sku.siteId%3AGB_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_GB_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+<%3D+1600173960000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1600173960000%5D

And you will be able to use multiple titans in every game not just the once a decade apoc super mega game

it's also their best game....ever

Zustiur wrote:
Exodite Eldar. Because they don't exist.

Seraphim have the range to convert some dope ones tho!

Always wanted to build a Thousand Sons army, both for 40k and 30k.

For 40k, I'm not a fan of the ridiculous amount of detail the Rubrics have. Basic units already take me a while and they'd take so much longer to paint to a point where I am happy.

For 40k - I bought 30 Rubrics, 10 Scarab Terminators, Ahriman, the Exalted Sorcerer kit and some other bits and bobs around December. They became my quarantine project. While I'm thrilled with how they came out (I used Turbo Dork for the metallics and it's amazing), I can honestly say I will NEVER paint another Tsons model. lol Too much fiddly detail. I feel they're my favorite "complete" army, and people seem to really like it. But yeah - seriously - I am more likely to jam a spork in my eye than I am to paint another Rubric or Scarab ... lol

30k World Eaters, because no one plays 30k here.