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I'm gonna dispute about the 1/1800 naval complaint.

First of all, the game itself is scale-agnostic. If you want to run it in a different scale, then there's nothing stopping you from doing so. If you've got an old collection of GHQ naval miniatures, there's nothing stopping you from using them. Second, Fireforge announced their own line of 1/1800 WW2 naval miniatures before Warlord did (There are pictures of their painted Fuso prototype on the internet. The line seems to have died, though, possibly due to SARS-2; when I asked for an update about ten or so months ago, I was told that info would be coming soon, and then never heard anything further.), and it's reportedly the same scale as the Axis and Allies naval miniatures. Further, the scale seems to be popular over in the naval miniatures sold over on Shapeways. So even though the Fireforge line seems to have fizzled, and A&A is out of print, you can still get figures in the same scale for roughly the same price. And your opponent might very well already have ships in the same scale. For example, the USS Portland and Myoko that I acquired from Shapeways for my planned test game of Seakrieg (that I never ended up playing) are both 1/1800.

Is it larger than most of the other lines popularly sold?

Yeah. But those lines have their own trade-offs. As one poster commented (paraphrasing) over on TMP in response to either the Fireforge or Warlord announced offerings (I don't remember which one) 1/6000 battleships look fine. But as you get older, it becomes harder and harder to make out the details on the destroyers in the same scale.
   
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 master of ordinance wrote:
 MarĂ©chal des Logis Walter wrote:
Don't really get why exactly the rant there...

He has a point and it has been ntd on other sites. Warlords recent releases have been very...
>1/300 coastal wars game, odd scale but okay
>1/600 age of sail game, a very unusual scale, no cross compatibility
>1/1800 ww2 naval game, a really weird scale, no cross compatibility
And now
>12mm ACW minis in 10 man strips, no cross compatibility
Its a very GW move, an attempt to lock people into their products



Uhhh, I really have no idea what you're talking about here.

Theres lots of 1:300 and 1:350 scale warships for sale out there, the main issue is that theres very little in the way related to the main focal point of the game out there, but thats fine since Warlord has provided a fairly comprehensive "core" to the range and you can pick up the fine scale models to represent the larger ships like corvettes, destroyer escorts, submarines, etc.

Likewise, 1/600 is a fairly popular warship model scale, though options for sailing ships over the past decade have been a bit limited and they generally trended towards WW1/WW2 type kits. People have been buying Airfix and Pirateology 1/600 sailing ships for decades now for their age of sail naval wargaming needs.

And likewise, 1/1800 is a fairly common pre-existing scale as well, there were already hundreds of options in that scale available from shapeways and 3d printing houses, and there have been a number of other options out there over the years. Warlords miniatures are actually re-releases of the old Mongoose Publishing Victory at Sea miniatures line from a decade ago (more or less identical though some seem to have had the sculpts updated slightly) - Mongoose actually did 3D CAD designs of a pretty large range of ships but only ever ended up releasing a fraction of them before they discontinued the line. Interestingly Fireforge Games *also* announced a 1/1800 WW2 naval ruleset and miniatures line around the same time Warlord announced VaS (I believe slightly before, actually). I've heard nothing further about the project since then so they may have dropped it, but its really not a weird scale.

And finally, these ACW minis are not really all that weird. They are slightly more petit than many of the other 15mm ranges out there (several of which were actually sculpted closer to 18mm and marketed as 15mm, and several of which are actually true 18mm and marketed as such). Kallistras 12mm ACW metals are *very* compatible with Warlords minis, and theres a handful of other smaller manufacturers that are close enough in size.

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