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I thought about something like this, it's just not totally fleshed out.
I would like to create it in a way that (at least for now) the Imperium just doesn't have the system that high on their priority list. As currently we have only my custom regiment I know about for planing it would be kind of "we don't have a serious force free right now, but that should suffice to give the governor food for thought". Of course should someone want to bring some Custodes etc. we can always come up with an excuse why it suddenly became a high class target.

Split loyalties also sounds really good. I could see one smaller fraction each sympathizing with rejoining the imperium, the Tau or doing trying to get by on their own with the large majority still undecided.
Or in a variation of this "separated due to warpstorms" motive we might as well think up a system that lost contact to human settled space even before the rise of the imperium and has literally just achieved FTL capacity again and first contacted their human breathren. So kind of a blank slate regarding the galaxy with no ties to anyone.
Of course we might as well give it a population of some allien race, but as more than half the factions are some kind of human, I think it would be the easiest choice to keep it that way.


It also does not necessarily have to be a single system, but it might be easier, as long as we have so few participants.
Regarding your approach of "different planets, different loyalties": also a pretty cool idea. Just as a roug sketch:
2 civilized or even hive worlds, one Imperial sympathizers, one Tau + a Forgeworld that would have prefered to stay isolated (and might still try to keep imperial interference to a minimum) as main population centers.
To round it up an Agri world that is peaceful and provides for both civilized worlds and is now drawn into the escalating conflict and a wild, dangerous world (Djungle, desert and/or ice) with big monsters (bugs, dinosaurs, bad tempered evil goldfishs) with some valuable objective that makes it interesting for all parties involved.
In the outer system we put one or two gasgiants full of methane and stuff for spaceship fuel, giving whoever holds these an edge in space.
Taken together we would have quite an interesting playground with each planet giving some kind of asset that depends on how well you hold it, while simultaneously no one can get through alone (everyone needs food and fuel, only the civilized worlds have manpower and the forgeworld tanks...)


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Krieg! What a hole...

I'd probably bring in my Scion Battalion, somewhat depleted from the terrible luck I had in the previous Crusade. Should allow them more politicking possibilities than the Death Korps of Krieg I otherwise could play withh.

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For the previous two crusades, the Imperium has always been the "home" team and I think this should be the case here in some shape or forum. Not necessarily as dominant as they would like due to Warp Storms. Any loyal forces of the Imperium in this sector would be whatever the local elements could muster. So maybe some PDF, whatever forces the players bring and maybe some ADmech stuff from the local outpost. The PDF and Admech can be our "NPC" forces along with our other humans who may not be so keen to rejoin the imperium. Also, as to leave things open somewhat we could just leave these humans neutral and leave them open to manipulation from the Tau if anyone wishes to play them or perhaps some potential chaos players. We could always have some feral orks around to beat up too, npcs are important to carry things when the players arent directly fighting one another to keep things going. Once the forces begin to meet they are a means of fleshing out factions so to speak.

Apologies if I seem like I am dictating just really excited!

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No worries, in my experience RPGs really profit from input from all players. I will write something up the next days, but I admitedly might steal a bit from my homebrew system (just rearrange some planets and stuff, but it makes work easier.

@ Bobtehero: sounds good. You mentioned that they had terrible look in their last Crusade, something you would like to get picked up plotwise?
Also, how is their standing? Are they the creme de la creme gloryboys or more the battered and beaten outcast type? Just to get a rough image.

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Krieg! What a hole...

Just gonna roll with lower numbers, probably gonna focus more on enabling operations rather than direct daunting strikes unless a situation really opens itself up. Part of the reason they had such losses was me sending special forces do a job more fitting for grunts, really, it was inevitable.

They're arrogant bastards, especially those in command, who don't work overly well with others, especially not Space Marines. However, when they do catch Guardsmen or Scions with particular skills, they try and integrate them in the unit. That tendency left them with a lot of specialists that can work in many terrain, but it also means they don't have a favored element to deploy the entire unit in, nor they excel against one enemy. What they do well is reconaissance and airborne assaults, because the 85th was originally two 85th from different planets which were merged because the Administratum is the Admnistratum.

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Savageconvoy wrote:
Snookie gives birth to Heavy Gun drone squad. Someone says they are overpowered. World ends.

 
   
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So I put something up

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/797649.page#11101531

It definitly still is a work in progress, feel free to send me your input. In general my idea is that this is the briefing for General planetary reference and I will edit this post to bring the system description up to speed when something comes up or is fleshed out during the campaign. The intention is that we can always look up how the System is build.

The dataslate entry is my try on giving the other players an impression what their force knows about the other guys in their Team. I will try to give more substance to mine too, but I think a general image can already been drawn from that. If you like you can also give information that is not accesible to everyone like giving your force the reputation for being just bog Standard soldiers but adding a line like
"+++ redacted, Security clearance Beta required +++"
followed by information that should only be accesible to Inquisitors, Space Marines or Generals with friends in high places.

Another note: I made some of my NPCs to Generals intending that to be a rank that coordinates multiple Regiments that usually work together. I am not intending to lead the expedition. That rank would be High General or Warmaster or something. If anyone has a PC or NPC he can imagine for this role feel free to give him any cool title you want to.

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 Pyroalchi wrote:
So @TacticalSpam: any rough idea what force you bring? In the sense of my last post: a rough sketch of size, local constraints and what they would fight for. It would help to come up with a good setting.


With what you and Bob have been hashing out, it might make sense to send my Chaos dudes instead of my Space Marines. Give the new system a proper battle royale over its resources.

As for size, my brain is still working on that. It would be a fairly small force of traitor Space Marines with a larger contingent of cultists. I'd have to reread some stuff on the current post-Primaris era. I sort of fell out of the hobby because of those guys

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Cool, feel free to use whatever you like from my description in the starting post. The dwarf planets (# 6-8) the clerk waived away as "unimportant" are free to be turned into secret bases, you know skull shaped volcanos and stuff. Or you can as well think up Chaos cults and sympathizers on the other planets. Also I purposely left open why the warpstorms are calming suddenly and if they get all back up and stormy again soon.

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Krieg! What a hole...

Keep in mind the next month is going to be extremely busy for me, I won't be home for most of it, and so I may delay the arrival of the 85th for a bit.

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Savageconvoy wrote:
Snookie gives birth to Heavy Gun drone squad. Someone says they are overpowered. World ends.

 
   
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No Problem, from what I pictured it makes sense to send the 85th as reinforcements after the grunts. As you have some Crusade experience: would your Scion Commander be up to get the nominal Command over the imperials until someone higher arrives?

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Krieg! What a hole...

Considering how they don't work too well with others, they'd be better off with someone in charge to twist their hand a bit.

Usually the commander of the Imperial forces was a NPC played by the ''DM''

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Savageconvoy wrote:
Snookie gives birth to Heavy Gun drone squad. Someone says they are overpowered. World ends.

 
   
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Ah, I see.
In that case my first impulse would be (as a rough sketch): the almost retired Colonel of the "Zetocian Grenadiers", an old regiment with a rather unspectacular history, their reputation mostly being "reliable workhorses". The Colonel happened to be the most senior, experienced and trusted officer present and was thus shoved into command. While quite competent not only militarily, but also with logistics and leadership and not unfamiliar with playing the political game, she never had command over a force this size. None the less she wants to make this the summit of her career and will try to do her best.

=> again a bit plot hook laying: we have a kind of blank slate whose style of command we can evolve and an easy explanation why she might be open to suggestions from PCs

Again: if you have input/critic on that or a cooler idea feel free to contribute

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I remember a planetary govenor from Crusade of Fury: Second Sun who invited all the imperial forces to his palace while his world was in a civil war. He was quite..removed from it all. It would be nice to have a figure from an administrative background. Perhaps the same perhaps who gave Colonel of the Zetocian Grenadiers the job. I quite like the set up of the system although travel between them is something that needs to be addressed. If possible maps will need to be made, filled with locations and positions of all forces. Historically the maps are made and the npcs are added, then once everyone sees them we add them in and the opening rolls can be done.

Roll results also need to be decided, all of this I imagine is usually done by the DM's which we havent formally designated. I say DM's as I think two will at least be needed due to multiple planets. An overall narrative would be nice to have in mind, particulary for the NPC factions although of course the players will affect this a great deal.

Finally and more importantly we need a name! Crusade of Fury was the first. Crusade of Fury: Second Sun with the second, what about the third?

EDIT: We will also need an OOC thread to discuss things. I imagine this thread suits such purposes. As such the other thread should be IC only for an easier read.

Inspiration for all of these things I have taken from the previous threads linked in the OP

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Sounds good. I think we can come up with an enjoyable governor when we are there.
Regarding travel times: my intention (I take it that nobody objects that I take over a role on the DM team), was that for starters we limit ourselves to one of those planets and then start up from there.
I'm currently torn between one of the two main planets (so a rather urban setting with one overarching theme being to swing the public opinion in one direction or the other) or the Agriworlds, that suffer under a Drukhari raid (and possibly Tactical_Spams Chaos Warband), but lean to the latter. It would be a battlefield were even a small PC force might have quite an impact as there are not that many people there, it has some strategical value and would not start to political but with some down to earth establishing/figting.
Then when we are setup a little, some more players arrived and we gathered some experience with the wole game principle we can ship off to the bigger fishes.

Regarding the name: no idea... Crusade of fury: electric boogaloo?

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I imagine that TS would probably wish to land on the neutral or anti imperium planet and slowly begin to influence them. Drukhari would probably strike the Agri worlds as you said. Perhaps the Warp storms have not retreated fully or maybe they have partially returned. The storm could block a number of planets and force us to stay on the same two or three planets for now.

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 Irishpeacockz wrote:
I imagine that TS would probably wish to land on the neutral or anti imperium planet and slowly begin to influence them. Drukhari would probably strike the Agri worlds as you said. Perhaps the Warp storms have not retreated fully or maybe they have partially returned. The storm could block a number of planets and force us to stay on the same two or three planets for now.


An accurate assumption of my tactics. Most of my warband would be human cultists backed up by a couple dozen Traitor marines. I might dial back how overtly corrupt they were to make them pass as normal Marines to most citizens. Not so much like the Alpha Legion does it, but definitely fitting the bill of Renegades and deserters in appearance vs VotLW in appearance.

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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Irishpeacockz wrote:
I imagine that TS would probably wish to land on the neutral or anti imperium planet and slowly begin to influence them. Drukhari would probably strike the Agri worlds as you said. Perhaps the Warp storms have not retreated fully or maybe they have partially returned. The storm could block a number of planets and force us to stay on the same two or three planets for now.


An accurate assumption of my tactics.


I'm onto you this time round.

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 Irishpeacockz wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Irishpeacockz wrote:
I imagine that TS would probably wish to land on the neutral or anti imperium planet and slowly begin to influence them. Drukhari would probably strike the Agri worlds as you said. Perhaps the Warp storms have not retreated fully or maybe they have partially returned. The storm could block a number of planets and force us to stay on the same two or three planets for now.


An accurate assumption of my tactics.


I'm onto you this time round.


For now. I could have a whole deck of cards up my sleeve. My warband is great at Poker.

H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
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The warpstorms have definitly not calmed totally and might get back up, cutting who already arrived from reinforcements. It is (in my opinion) a good explanation for the currently rather half-a**es aproach of the imperium to just send forces they currently have spare but would not miss to direly if they got stuck there (so far only the Askaris and the Scions Regiment of Bobthehero).

OK, one general question to those that were around the first few crusades: would it be preferable for the PC factions to start apart of each other and encounter mostly NPC forces first or would it be better to start up on the same locality?
If the latter, I would say we focus on Kalipera Tertius first (the civilized world that's currently leaning towards imperial). As it is not a hive world yet we would have enough space to describe sparsely populated areas for the Drukhari to raid, we would have lets say one continent with some big cities that is the center of the pro Imperials in the system (and therefore the obvious starting point for the loyalist reinforcements) and another continent that leans towards indipendence/neutrality that would be a likely candidate for the Chaos Dudes to subvert. Sprinkle in some cities that lean towards pro Tau/Eldar/whatever and we can easily explain potential further players from these factions joyning.

If it is better to start separated we can of course, therefore the question to the experienced folks

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AFAIK people chose their own starting locations based on maps with NPC forces and locations. If I choose an agri world with my DE than perhaps Bob might wish to land near me and clash that way etc.

We choose locations until everyone has a landing spot and then naturally begin to explore our surroundings.

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OK, then we have quite some work ahead of us. Does anybody know a good map maping tool?
Also feel free to put up a nice introductary post in the topic I created to give us a feeling who your dudes are and get into it.

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I will look into it. The maps of Second Sun were not too complicated and they served their purpose just fine. I also just remembered that we all uploaded a symbol to represent our forces and sent that to the Dm so they could be added to the map as to determine our bases location or the general location of more nomadic forces.

Take a look at the older crusades for the maps, more specifically the OOC thread I think.

After a period of time perhaps a significant event the map would be updated, Npc forces would be removed if they were defeated by the players, the location of certain forces might change etc.

All in the name of clarity.

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Put up a piece about the alliance of Dark Eldar discussing a webway gate inside Tyraxis' territory. Just a little teaser.

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Updated both threads, this one should focus on any discussions that are out of character with the Crusade of Fury: Wrath of the Warp thread to be used strictly for in character use. Feel free to write up an introductory piece about your forces in the main thread. Maps are actively being worked on and we can discuss deployment of your forces in the coming days.

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Original Post has been updated with maps, rules and rosters! If everyone could pm me an icon to represent their forces and a desired location I shall add it to the map

EDIT: Please send me a brief description and name of your forces too so I can update the roster accordingly!

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Krieg! What a hole...

Wrote my intro, unlikely I will write much until the end of May, big stuff at work will keep me without a computer for a long time.

Stuff sent to Irish, too.

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Thanks bobthehero. No worries, I guess the crusade will takes its time until it really takes off.

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Really nice piece Bob, I like all the little details.

Once folk pm me their desired location and I respond people can't write about making landfall.

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Krieg! What a hole...

Thanks.

Unfortunately, work kicked me in the face with a surprise ''feth you'' and I'll be gone till mid August.

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No problem, that happens. We could just say the ships of the 85th arrive from another angle or have dropped out of warp further out, so they need sone additional weeks until they arrive in the system.

Or alternatively if you have a specific idea what they will do first, feel free to post a short notice here.

I wrote in my post that the other imperials are aware of the 85th. Is that OK or would you prefer them being a surprise?

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