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New trailer.



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I think it says a lot about DC movies when they have to put "From the Director of Guardians of the Galaxy" in the trailer to get people interested.
   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
I think it says a lot about DC movies when they have to put "From the Director of Guardians of the Galaxy" in the trailer to get people interested.


Yeah, I did find that quite funny that they have to piggyback onto the MCU brand and their directors to give credibility of some sort to the movie.
   
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Of course they had to put in the Guardians bit, the DC brand is so tarnished they need all the help they can get.
   
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This trailer seems... worse?

Maybe its the weasel thing (which just looks awful), but the tone flails randomly between super-serious and complete camp and bizarre romance subplots that I seriously hope are just bait.

Still confused why they brought Captain No Personality back to be the team babysitter.

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This trailer seems... worse?

Maybe its the weasel thing (which just looks awful), but the tone flails randomly between super-serious and complete camp and bizarre romance subplots that I seriously hope are just bait.

Still confused why they brought Captain No Personality back to be the team babysitter.


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Waller and Flag are pretty much the key figures in the Squad, so I'm not surprised he's back in this film.

What I do find interesting is that he doesn't appear to show up after a certain point, if I'm figuring the timeline of scenes correctly, so maybe he gets taken out in this one?

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It did feel a bit meh as a trailer. First one was fairly hype though.

   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
I think it says a lot about DC movies when they have to put "From the Director of Guardians of the Galaxy" in the trailer to get people interested.


and ideas we totally didn't fish out of the script bin from the Harly cartoon...

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Looks pretty good - even with the Guardians connection.

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The embargo has lifted, and reviews are coming in...pretty strong right now on RT and MC.

Had an opportunity to see an advanced screening tomorrow night but I can't make it. I think I'm gonna see this one in the theater...first trip there since before COVID. Something big, loud and fun seems like a good choice.

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So, who wants to start a deadpool? Who lives, who dies, and how? Bonus points if you get the order right.

First off, my locks for survivor(s):
Spoiler:

Amanda Waller
Harley Quinn

These two are safe in my view, being the two characters they actually need for future films. Harley, being the only A-list character present, and Waller being the one character that they need to survive to make more Suicide Squad movies.


Then, my I-am-willing-to-bet-a-beer-on-them-surviving-but-no-more choice(s):
Spoiler:

Bloodsport- I expect that they will want a relatively sane field leader for the team for any future films, and he seems more interesting than Col. Flagg

Polka-Dot Man: The one guy who wants to die, so of course he will almost certainly survive.


A couple Coin Tosses:
Spoiler:

Peacemaker and King Shark: I expect that these two will be very profitable, very popular Meme Machines. Good choices to keep for future films, but also likely two of the bigger paycheques, so it is very possible these two die in the final fight. I give King Shark better odds, because Groot.


Now for the fun bit!
Spoiler:

First Death goes to Sir Barely-Appearing-in-the-Trailer, Javelin. Cause of Death: Team Kill, by Weasel
Second Death: Weasel, going feral and killing Javelin, is offed by Waller

Deaths 3-5
Nathan Fillion, Blackguard, Mon-Gal. Killed off unceremoniously in the first fight scene.

Death #6
Captain Boomerang, via Waller. James Gunn has Carte-Blanche to kill anyone, and here is where he decides to use it.

Death #7
Savant. Judging by his facial expression, he will get hard, fatal intel on project starfish

This leaves Col. Flagg and Harley, and Waller rolls up a new team. We are roughly at the half-hour mark by this point, btw.

Death #8
Peter Capaldi. Cause of Death: Car with Vanity plates.

Death #9
Col-Flagg. Mind Controled, then shot by Bloodsport

Deaath #10
Ratcatcher 2- Seems to have a "Making a Heroic Sacrifice" expression in the trailer.


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I'll chew on that one.

It's at 99% on RT and 78 on MC. Looking like maybe the highest rated DCEU film yet? Which isn't a high bar to clear, but those are great numbers even for a Marvel film.

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Anyone know how I can legally stream this in the U.K.?

   
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Will probably get time to see it next week, treating my brother as well. The first one wasn't bad but...could have been tighter, I guess.

The shark guy looks like a bigger boat full of fun.

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Just got back from a viewing and enjoyed every minute of it.

Supremely silly fun.

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Anyone know how I can legally stream this in the U.K.?


I would be interested to know this too.

The JustWatch app doesn't have anything listed at the moment but I've set an alert, I will post here if I find anything.

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The Snyder Cut was on NowTV, which is the only comparison I can think of right now.

Yes I did watch. Yes I do want those far too many hours and minutes of my laughable life back, Mr Snyder.

You get multiple endings when your LOTR or End Game. Not as a vanity project for a hack.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The Snyder Cut was on NowTV, which is the only comparison I can think of right now.

Yes I did watch. Yes I do want those far too many hours and minutes of my laughable life back, Mr Snyder.

You get multiple endings when your LOTR or End Game. Not as a vanity project for a hack.


The extended LOTR was a vanity project. And don't get me started on King Kong.

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The accomplishment of bringing the LOTR trilogy, for me, bought a lot of good will.

I can forgive an artistic flourish, even if it arguably overstayed it’s welcome.

Snyder earned none of that good will, on account barring his really rather enjoyable Dawn of the Dead remake, he’s a pretty awful film maker.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The accomplishment of bringing the LOTR trilogy, for me, bought a lot of good will.

I can forgive an artistic flourish, even if it arguably overstayed it’s welcome.

Snyder earned none of that good will, on account barring his really rather enjoyable Dawn of the Dead remake, he’s a pretty awful film maker.


Haven't seen it myself but was the Synder cut really that bad? I hear its a bit long but otherwise an improvement over the theatrical edition.


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Haven't seen it myself but was the Synder cut really that bad? I hear its a bit long but otherwise an improvement over the theatrical edition.


Lets be clear, it's an improvement to a film in which Joss Whedon credits himself as "I tried". This is not a high bar to clear.

Mostly, you can get where they were going with the Snyder Cut, but it's not really "good" either. For every scene improved by the additional detail, there's another that's just bad in a new way. It's definitely not the trainwreck of BvS or the theatrical cut, but it's not exactly... good? either.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The accomplishment of bringing the LOTR trilogy, for me, bought a lot of good will.

I can forgive an artistic flourish, even if it arguably overstayed it’s welcome.

Snyder earned none of that good will, on account barring his really rather enjoyable Dawn of the Dead remake, he’s a pretty awful film maker.


And said Dawn of the Dead remake was written by one James Gunn.

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SamusDrake wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The accomplishment of bringing the LOTR trilogy, for me, bought a lot of good will.

I can forgive an artistic flourish, even if it arguably overstayed it’s welcome.

Snyder earned none of that good will, on account barring his really rather enjoyable Dawn of the Dead remake, he’s a pretty awful film maker.


Haven't seen it myself but was the Synder cut really that bad? I hear its a bit long but otherwise an improvement over the theatrical edition.


I think it's unquestionably better just because it's a much more coherent work and not a Frankenstein monster. The critics seemed to agree. Honestly, I found it less dreary than Whedon's version, which was just so lame and un-epic that it became kinda depressing. Like we waited for years for a live action JL movie and got handed the equivalent of a small bowl of plain oatmeal.

Snyder is a very talented guy...the problem is that he needs someone to rein in his excesses. And the Snyder cut certainly has some of those. Think the main difference between it and the vanity project called King Kong is that JL is overstuffed while KK has scenes that go on for like 12 beats longer than they should. The scene-by-scene pacing in Snyder's JL is fine...there's just a LOT in there. My recommendation is to watch it over a couple nights.

But Zack Snyder has nothing to do with this movie. I'm hoping to see it on Friday...? Gonna do the theater thing first time since, even though I have HBO Max.

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But Zack Snyder has nothing to do with this movie. I'm hoping to see it on Friday...? Gonna do the theater thing first time since, even though I have HBO Max.


His name was on the credits at the end, I think he was a producer.

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 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
So, who wants to start a deadpool? Who lives, who dies, and how? Bonus points if you get the order right.



You will I think enjoy watching the film...
   
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You will I think enjoy watching the film...


Oh yeah!

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So the new Suicide Squad is definitely better than the last one, which admittedly I think they could have tried to make a worse move and probably would have failed, but anyway...

It's a bit of an awkward start imo. Takes about 25 minutes for the ball to really get rolling imo but once it does, not bad. Certainly it helps that the film is about more generic wet work/black ops stuff. You know, the kind of thing that makes sense for this kind of story. You know. Not a world ending apocalypse happening in plain sight that some super hero would notice and do something about, presumably.

There are times where I think Gunn's humor clashes badly with the DCU ultra-edginess all things must be maximum edge feel that creeps up from time to time but it's not that bad. Honestly, it largely enhances the humor, especially because the film is so good at fething over expectations in some parts! In a good way. Right when you're ready to groan at how cringe or cliche something is, boom haha oh wow that's not what I thought was happening.

Bit of an uneven ride at times because the set ups can be long and 'blarg' but the punch line can be quite surprising and funny when it happens.

Good popcorn flick. Fairly clever.

Turns out all they needed to make a stellar DCU movie is to hire out of the MCU XD

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