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2021/04/27 16:48:28
Subject: Re:Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
DeathReaper wrote: That is 100% false. My Burna-bommer does not have a base.
Then you dont play it by the rules, because 100% it has a base.
I am playing by the rules. Mine did not come with a base. It may come with a base when you get the model from a game store, but I bought mine off e-bay and it did not have a base.
This may be the most "right" fighting post I have ever seen. Not that it matters, but there goes any creditability you had for me.
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2021/04/27 17:31:10
Subject: Re:Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
DeathReaper wrote: That is 100% false. My Burna-bommer does not have a base.
Then you dont play it by the rules, because 100% it has a base.
I am playing by the rules. Mine did not come with a base. It may come with a base when you get the model from a game store, but I bought mine off e-bay and it did not have a base.
Why should eBay dictate rules?
I don't think anyone said they did.
The official model has a base. Therefore, if playing with the official rules, measure to the base.
Citation needed. I cant find this is the rules (The part about the official model having a base).
Unless you think GW put a conversion of the Burna-Bommer on their store, it's got a base. That's taken right from the store page.
You know that a picture on a website has nothing to do with the rules of 40K right?
edwardmyst wrote: This may be the most "right" fighting post I have ever seen. Not that it matters, but there goes any creditability you had for me.
I have not ever spoken with you or encountered any of your posts, why would I have any creditability for you?
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
2021/04/27 17:32:34
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
Good grief. This is a whole new level of ridiculous thread derails.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2021/04/27 17:33:30
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
JohnnyHell wrote: Good grief. This is a whole new level of ridiculous thread derails.
I am illustrating a point. Surely you get that right?
"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
2021/04/27 17:35:35
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
JohnnyHell wrote: Good grief. This is a whole new level of ridiculous thread derails.
I am illustrating a point. Surely you get that right?
You really aren’t. Of all the Devil’s Advocates to play (which are rarely useful in and of themselves anyway) “My model was secondhand and came with no base” is self-evidently preposterous, sorry.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2021/04/27 17:35:57
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
GW Website wrote:This multi-part plastic boxed set contains the components necessary to build one Burna-Bommer. As well as a Grot Gunner, it includes a range of weapons options: a big shoota, boom bombs, burna bombs, skorcha rokkits and supa shootas, as well as an Ork Bommer transfer sheet.
This plastic kit can also be assembled as a Dakkajet, Blitza-Bommer or Wazbom Blastajet, and comes with a flying stem and Citadel 120mmx92mm Oval base.
And, as others have pointed out, what if I just don't put bases on my models? Since measurements have to be done to the base, excepting when the model has a rule to the contrary, can they just not be targeted and not target anything that needs a measurement?
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2021/04/27 17:52:20
Subject: Re:Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
GW Website wrote:This multi-part plastic boxed set contains the components necessary to build one Burna-Bommer. As well as a Grot Gunner, it includes a range of weapons options: a big shoota, boom bombs, burna bombs, skorcha rokkits and supa shootas, as well as an Ork Bommer transfer sheet.
This plastic kit can also be assembled as a Dakkajet, Blitza-Bommer or Wazbom Blastajet, and comes with a flying stem and Citadel 120mmx92mm Oval base.
And, as others have pointed out, what if I just don't put bases on my models? Since measurements have to be done to the base, excepting when the model has a rule to the contrary, can they just not be targeted and not target anything that needs a measurement?
ooh, my armageddon steel legion come on slotta bases - I can slot them in to shoot, then slot them out on the opponent's turn. They'd count as moving (since "any part of the model" has moved) but...
2021/04/27 17:52:22
Subject: Re:Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
DeathReaper wrote: That is 100% false. My Burna-bommer does not have a base.
Then you dont play it by the rules, because 100% it has a base.
I am playing by the rules. Mine did not come with a base. It may come with a base when you get the model from a game store, but I bought mine off e-bay and it did not have a base.
Why should eBay dictate rules?
I don't think anyone said they did.
The official model has a base. Therefore, if playing with the official rules, measure to the base.
Citation needed. I cant find this is the rules (The part about the official model having a base).
From the entry on the GW website:
This plastic kit can also be assembled as a Dakkajet, Blitza-Bommer or Wazbom Blastajet, and comes with a flying stem and Citadel 120mmx92mm Oval base.
2021/04/27 18:02:52
Subject: Re:Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
GW Website wrote:This multi-part plastic boxed set contains the components necessary to build one Burna-Bommer. As well as a Grot Gunner, it includes a range of weapons options: a big shoota, boom bombs, burna bombs, skorcha rokkits and supa shootas, as well as an Ork Bommer transfer sheet.
This plastic kit can also be assembled as a Dakkajet, Blitza-Bommer or Wazbom Blastajet, and comes with a flying stem and Citadel 120mmx92mm Oval base.
And, as others have pointed out, what if I just don't put bases on my models? Since measurements have to be done to the base, excepting when the model has a rule to the contrary, can they just not be targeted and not target anything that needs a measurement?
Maybe, just maybe, we all just stop giving these bad takes air. The game requires a certain level of common sense to function and this thread has left any semblance of common sense behind long ago.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2021/04/27 18:08:15
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
JohnnyHell wrote: Good grief. This is a whole new level of ridiculous thread derails.
I am illustrating a point. Surely you get that right?
You really aren’t. Of all the Devil’s Advocates to play (which are rarely useful in and of themselves anyway) “My model was secondhand and came with no base” is self-evidently preposterous, sorry.
I was illustrating that what p5freak said was incorrect. That was all I was commenting on.
His post for those that didn't see it:
p5freak wrote: There is no aircraft which has bombing run (or similar), and no base.
This plastic kit can also be assembled as a Dakkajet, Blitza-Bommer or Wazbom Blastajet, and comes with a flying stem and Citadel 120mmx92mm Oval base.
You know that the GW website does not = rules right?
"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
2021/04/27 18:39:03
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
JohnnyHell wrote: Good grief. This is a whole new level of ridiculous thread derails.
I am illustrating a point. Surely you get that right?
You really aren’t. Of all the Devil’s Advocates to play (which are rarely useful in and of themselves anyway) “My model was secondhand and came with no base” is self-evidently preposterous, sorry.
I was illustrating that what p5freak said was incorrect. That was all I was commenting on.
His post for those that didn't see it:
p5freak wrote: There is no aircraft which has bombing run (or similar), and no base.
This plastic kit can also be assembled as a Dakkajet, Blitza-Bommer or Wazbom Blastajet, and comes with a flying stem and Citadel 120mmx92mm Oval base.
You know that the GW website does not = rules right?
They're not providing rules, they're providing the evidence that the model has a base. They're only indicating that you should have a base for the model. The rules don't take into account buying models secondhand with the bases being lost somewhere in the process.
A TO could keep you from using the model in a tournament without a base.
2021/04/27 18:41:54
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
They're not providing rules, they're providing the evidence that the model comes with has a base. They're only indicating that you should have a base for the model. The rules don't take into account buying models secondhand with the bases being lost somewhere in the process.
A TO could keep you from using the model in a tournament without a base.
Fixed that for you with the Cyan
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
2021/04/27 18:54:20
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
I'm saying you are quite frequently wrong. Not always-but frequently.
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DeathReaper wrote:Did not want to post off topic.
JNAProductions wrote: I'm saying you are quite frequently wrong. Not always-but frequently.
This is false, I am hardly ever incorrect.
Can you prove that? (We all know that you can not).
Quoted from my private messages. DeathReaper apparently wants to keep this hidden-I don't.
Just a general word of advice, to DeathReaper, but also others-be willing to admit when you're wrong. I've been wrong on this forum (and others) plenty of times. It happens, and when it does, you correct yourself. You shouldn't dig your feet in and insist you're right against all evidence, because it just makes you come off as a stubborn jerk.
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Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne!
2021/04/27 19:06:27
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
They're not providing rules, they're providing the evidence that the model comes with has a base. They're only indicating that you should have a base for the model. The rules don't take into account buying models secondhand with the bases being lost somewhere in the process.
A TO could keep you from using the model in a tournament without a base.
Fixed that for you with the Cyan
How is that a "fix"? So, going with what you say, the model comes with a base. It's your responsibility to make sure it has a base for a game.
2021/04/27 19:09:13
Subject: Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
They're not providing rules, they're providing the evidence that the model comes with has a base. They're only indicating that you should have a base for the model. The rules don't take into account buying models secondhand with the bases being lost somewhere in the process.
A TO could keep you from using the model in a tournament without a base.
Fixed that for you with the Cyan
How is that a "fix"? So, going with what you say, the model comes with a base. It's your responsibility to make sure it has a base for a game.
It is a fix because you said "they're providing the evidence that the model has a base" which is technically not correct. Not every Burna-Bommer model has a base. They do come with a base if you buy it from GW though.
I like to be precise.
We all should be precise when discussing the rules.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
2021/04/27 19:27:47
Subject: Re:Drukhari Bombers bomb can it hit itself with bomb? Also where do you count vehicle exploding?
