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 bullyboy wrote:

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
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I also don't understand people who claim that their armies were 'unplayable'. What happened, did their bases fall off? Otherwise, you're probably doing tthis whole thing wrong.

i mean 7th edition orks were pretty unplayable. I had one day (same day) where i set up my orks against Imperial guard for my first game of the day. I did not have a model left on the table at the bottom of turn 1, does that mean that I technically played that game? my models were on the table but other than setting up my battlewagons and boyz squads i wasn't involved much. The next game was Tyranids with a biker list to change things up. i again went second and most of my army was gone by bottom of turn 1, i had a biker boys squad and a warboss in combat by my turn who then died in my combat phase so... yay i "got a turn"?

oh right, so you just kept on playing the same 'ole 2000pts, let's have at you, games and expected a different result? If GW deems that your army is the trash tier one of the edition (cue Karol), then you have to find opponents who are willing to try something different, home-brew scenarios, pre-determined lists, unbalanced scenarios, etc. There are so many ways to enjoy this game, but people just pigeon hole themselves in 2000pt only games.

Sure, I tried that. The thing was just that the balance was so far out of whack that you ended getting tabled even in narrative missions where you tried playing with handicaps, endless swarm and everything. Do you know that mission where crimson fists are supposed to hold a small base in the middle and endless tide of orks will eventually overcome them? We stopped playing that after 24 turns because the fists could just tank and kill everything that appeared.
I had an opponent who had this list for his homebrew craftworld who has been playing almost the same ~2000 points pile of hovertanks with random stuff in them ever since he started in 4th, with the only thing changing was which aspect warriors and phoenix lords he was bringing and whether he brought a seer council or wraiths. During 7th he simply killed my entire army without me moving even one model. Similar thing happened with guard or necron players.
Orks in 7th didn't have a lot of shooting worth talking about, so more than half the games were just running at your opponent for two or three turns, then bouncing off powerful melee units like necron warriors in combat and getting sweeped. You couldn't even toss some dice and see what happened because your army was to bad for that.
After my fair share of non-games, and an undeniable message from GW that orks can go die in a ditch, I did the only right thing there was - I dropped 40k and put my orks up for auction.

At the minimum I have 16 (13 of wich have existing rules).
They are:
•SM
•SoB
•AdMech
•Guard
•Knights
•Titans
*Adeptus Arbites
*Squats
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•Craftwkrld Eldar
•Tau
•Necrons
•Tyranids
•GSC
*Ork Titan - I have an Armourcast Mega-Gargant.
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•CSM
•Demons

Now, within those I also have multiple armies of specific sub-factions, particularly Imperial forces- SW, DA, cadian. Catching, etc etc etc.

This vast collection is the result of:
•Time (I've been building armies for 30+ years)
•$$ - the whole point of being well paid most of my adult life is having enough disposable income to do as I please. I can't collect yachts or such, but still, Mission Acomplished.
•Damn, GW just keeps making more cool minis that I want to play with. Whatever shall I do? Seriously, beyond the 1st army I ever built, that's what drives me to build more armies/expand existing ones. I didn't buy all kinds of new Necrons last year because "rules ".

Greater than 1500 points?

Ultramarines
Deathwatch
Chaos Space Marines
Death Guard
Chaos Daemons
Imperial Guard
Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Tyranids
Necrons

Haven't built enough of my Orks or Harlis to do a full army. My AdMech, White Scars, Custodes, Genestealer Cults, Thousand Sons, and Imperial Knights haven't been built (neither have my 30k Mechanicum or World Eater armies, for that matter). I have a fair amount of Dark Eldar, but that's for the RPGs and isn't structured as an army. My Inquisition army doesn't count as an army any more, so thank GW for that.

That's it I think.

I voted 4.

My list from another recent thread:

- almost a full chapter of Red Hunters (I have all the marines needed in a mix of FB and Primaris, but I need to bulk out the motor pool lol)
- 5000pts of Mechanicus (which includes a Knight Errant and a Knight Valiant)
- 6000pts of Orks (including a Stompa)
- 2200pts of Astra Militarum
- 2500pts of Tsons
- 3000pts of DG
- 3000pts of Iron Warriors
- 1500pts of Creations of Bile
- 2100pts of Tau
- 3000pts of Necrons
- 1200pts of generic "unaligned but most closely resembling Black Legion" CSM
- 900pts of Inquisition forces
- 1200pts Demons of Tzeench
- 800pts Demons of Nurgle


Outside of very new players, there's not a single person in the local scene with fewer than two armies. Everyone eventually ends up with at least two.

Necrons - about 4-5k painted 2-3k unpainted.

Guard - This is where it gets tricky. I have one guard army that consists of 7 companies around 15,000 points total. Of that, I have four companies painted and playable at around 7,000 pts.

So do I have two armies, or five?

Painted?

20k+ of IG
12k+ of Ultramarines
2k of Craftworlds
10k of Tau

Unpainted... oof…
5k of Grey Knights
3k of Sisters of Battle
2k of CSM
~2k more of Craftworlds

Technically 2, but I don´t play my Orks anymore. But if I were to play them, I have about 2200 points of those and my main DG army is about 2700 points.

Karol wrote:
Well if that is the case then those are happy people. It would be nice though, if GW warned people about it with some warrning that says, that to have more or less enjoyable time with their armies, one needs to have 2-3 armies. Probably spread over multiple systems in case a core rules changes makes one game unfun.

This is you.

I had a plenty enjoyable time with my Grey Knights in 8th and Sisters in 6th and 7th and whatever else. While I have 5 armies, I think having 1 is a perfectly serviceable proposition.

All of my armies are at least 2000pts, so 7. Though my daemons are mostly on square bases.
Also I love how some posters aren't trying to at all pretend you aren't trying to use this thread to try and brag.

Despite what people are posting in the thread, the poll seems to be having just as many people with 1-2 armies as it has with "lots".

I can field 2k fully painted classic metal SoB.

I can field 1500 partially painted GSC.

I have easily 2k Drukhari, but much is still on sprues.

This is my confession; I really need to get busy. My hoard of grey plastic is HUGE.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

Karol wrote:
Well if that is the case then those are happy people. It would be nice though, if GW warned people about it with some warrning that says, that to have more or less enjoyable time with their armies, one needs to have 2-3 armies. Probably spread over multiple systems in case a core rules changes makes one game unfun.

This is you.

I had a plenty enjoyable time with my Grey Knights in 8th and Sisters in 6th and 7th and whatever else. While I have 5 armies, I think having 1 is a perfectly serviceable proposition.

Yeah, have to agree with Inquisitor Lord Katherine on this. My Tsons were already on the struggle bus in 8th and 9th ended up hitting them even harder with the nerf hammer. So they're pretty bad right now. But I'm enjoying the challenge of trying to make them work while knowing my rules are bad and outdated. It's been an interesting test for my creativity.

Finished growing and painting my CSM army to 1500pts this past year so that brings my total to 4 with the other three being Orks, Eldar and Space Wolves.

I have BA and CWE but my eldar can be played badly in 3 different ways;-) So I voted for 3.

I voted one....but I could run 1'500 of pure Kabal, Wych Cult, or Coven...

Yeah, you’re going to get skewed results on this forum.

-Imperial Guard
-Space Marine
-Tyranid
-Necron
-Admech
-GSC
-Eldar
-Tau
-Knights

That’s 9?

I have three collections of models that would total 1,500+ points if I put them all on the table at the same time, but none of them are "game-ready" in the sense that I have any confidence they'd live past turn two.


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 bullyboy wrote:

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
1500pts+ ?

Dark Angels
Raven Guard
Deathwatch
Eldar
Harlequins (but not at 2000pts yet)
Tau
Iron Warriors (but not quite at 2000pts, need to remedy)

Plus a few odds and ends that I can insert into narrative scenarios...a knight, some guard, inquisitorial retinues

I also don't understand people who claim that their armies were 'unplayable'. What happened, did their bases fall off? Otherwise, you're probably doing tthis whole thing wrong.

i mean 7th edition orks were pretty unplayable. I had one day (same day) where i set up my orks against Imperial guard for my first game of the day. I did not have a model left on the table at the bottom of turn 1, does that mean that I technically played that game? my models were on the table but other than setting up my battlewagons and boyz squads i wasn't involved much. The next game was Tyranids with a biker list to change things up. i again went second and most of my army was gone by bottom of turn 1, i had a biker boys squad and a warboss in combat by my turn who then died in my combat phase so... yay i "got a turn"?

oh right, so you just kept on playing the same 'ole 2000pts, let's have at you, games and expected a different result? If GW deems that your army is the trash tier one of the edition (cue Karol), then you have to find opponents who are willing to try something different, home-brew scenarios, pre-determined lists, unbalanced scenarios, etc. There are so many ways to enjoy this game, but people just pigeon hole themselves in 2000pt only games.

Everyone I know who'd be willing to play something other than 2,000pt tournament missions has quit 40k because of 9th. I find once you break free of the tyranny of officialdom and accept that things other than 2,000pt tournament games can exist people have a lot more fun throwing out the 9e rulebook entirely and doing something different with their minis.

If the question is "how many game-ready armies in the 40k universe using any ruleset do you have at 1,500+pts?" my answer is six. If your question is "how many game-ready armies could you play 9e 40k with?" my answer is either three or none, depending on whether "doesn't just get steamrolled in two turns" is a criterion for "game-ready".

I have about 3000pts of Krieg, 3000pts of Deathwatch, 5000pts of CWE and 3000pts of CSM/Chaos Knights all painted and ready to go.

Aash wrote:
I put 1, but I’m not sure if I even have that.

I don’t own the latest codex and haven’t played 9th edition yet, so I don’t know for sure that I even have 1500 pts. But it is painted. I don’t play with unpainted miniatures. I have plenty of unpainted plastic, but it stays on the sprues. When I build them I paint them before assembling any more.

I am more or less with Aash right here. I prefer not to play unpainted models, but I have done it in the past. I have a lot still on the sprues that I need to get to, however.

4-5 fully painted on rotation

Crimson Fists Space Marines
Dark Eldar
Imperial Guard

All these were built in 3rd Ed. with 3rd Ed. in mind, but are at least playable in 9th if I were every to get a lobotomy.

Our goal is to have one of each faction for 3rd, not counting subfactions like multiple Marine chapters.

I have 2 armies at 1500 points (or more) ready to play and 2 below that but close. Unless you count a single faction with multiple builds and paint schemes as different armies, then its closer to 6ish ready to go at 1500+

Necrons
Eldar
Other armies below 1500

I put in 3, as I don't have enough Knights or Guard stuff built to field more than 1500 points. I do have a huge Dark Angels army (almost 18k points last time I counted), as well as decent (and growing!) Space Wolves and Sisters of Battle armies.

2 but I've dumped a lot of my marines.

What do you mean by “game ready”

mrFickle wrote:
What do you mean by “game ready”

Any army assembled far enough so you can have a legal game with them. I'd personally draw the line at models missing arms or weapons, though you could technically play game with just bases.

That said, I did play a game with a unit of ork bikes that didn't have riders yet.

 Jidmah wrote:

mrFickle wrote:
What do you mean by “game ready”

Any army assembled far enough so you can have a legal game with them. I'd personally draw the line at models missing arms or weapons, though you could technically play game with just bases.

That said, I did play a game with a unit of ork bikes that didn't have riders yet.

They did have riders. They were just purple, and didn't have time to paint their bikes before the waagh.

My game-ready armies are
- Necrons (painted, army of choice these days),
- Drukhari (assembled but not painted),
- Craftworlds and GK (painted but waiting for codex updates).

Blood Angels, yeah, but shelved.

Definitely Death Guard and Necrons. Probably Dark Angels, but it's been a while since I dug those out to check. If you allow allies, my Tyranids and GSC combined get there, but I don't think either do by themselves. So 2-4.

None are currently fully painted - the only fully painted army I have is my Gloomspite Gitz.

I feel this is a "raise your hand if you have a problem" sort of thread.

I'd probably say 3 - but really its more like 2 and bits.

DE. Main army. Painted and probably finished unless whim strikes to do something new. Don't really like it any more since I think I'm a much better painter than I was pushing a decade ago - but so it goes. If someone wants a 2k game I know exactly what to put in a box.

Tau. Lockdown project, just shy of hitting 1500 points painted now, a fair bit more than that assembled. I'm sort of waiting on whispers of a new codex for what to add to it.

If I throw my Tyranids and GSC together I get over 1500 points. Its around 1000ish of each separately (and I can throw in 500ish points of Guard to make up some brood brothers too). As an army its kind of a mess though (clashing paint jobs bug me) so I don't really play it unless its time for something off the wall.

From then on, its plastic addiction all the way down. I've got about 1500 points of Necrons - but its mostly an unmade Indomitus half, the old start collecting (assembled but awfully painted) and a few other bits. Was going to be the lockdown project but... just didn't click. I think its something about painting metal. (I know you don't have to do metal Necrons...)

I've got some CWE - but again its mostly unassembled and unpainted. Between a start collecting and a few cheap half of boxes it might be pushing 1500. Bought some bits to be allies with my DE and was then build my own Ynnari army... but just lost interest.

I've got a smallish Ork Army that's about half painted. But I don't like the colour scheme I used, and it kind of ended the project. Its something I could re-look at maybe next year.

Then I think you are into the flotsam of other armies. 10 Intercessors and an old Dreadnought (painted), 10 CSM marines (painted), 10 Skittari Rangers (painted) and a Harlequine Troupe box (not sure what I was thinking here).

Oh and I bought some DG (it wouldn't be a valid army, but works out about 500 points) when their new codex dropped but the odds of me even opening their boxes seems slim, never mind painting them up and playing with them, so really I should just stick them back on ebay.