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2021/07/26 14:50:49
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Well, on the bright side, even chance that bits sites will be flooded with cheap Grey Knights, Scarab Terminators and Tzaangors.
I'll be amazed if it's somehow more than Blood of the Phoenix.
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2021/07/26 14:54:45
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Foxy Wildborne
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The Tzeentch half will have to be heavily discounted for me to pick one up. *yawn*
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2021/07/26 14:55:35
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Raging Rat Ogre
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Well, I'll probably get one as I have a Thousand Sons force, and that new Crowe figure is excellent. And I have yet to get my second box of Scarabs anyway...
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Urusei Yatsura, Cerebus the Aardvark, Machiavelli, Plato and Happy Days. So, how was your childhood?
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2021/07/26 14:57:50
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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I will probably get Crowe, as he is a good model, but I'm not interested in anything else on either side. Also, dreadknights look horrible, and I want them to be updated or deleted.
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‘What Lorgar’s fanatics have not seen is that these gods are nothing compared to the power and the majesty of the Machine-God. Already, members of our growing cult are using the grace of the Omnissiah – the true Omnissiah, not Terra’s false prophet – to harness the might of the warp. Geller fields, warp missiles, void shields, all these things you are familiar with. But their underlying principles can be turned to so much more. Through novel exploitations of these technologies we will gain mastery first over the energies of the empyrean, then over the lesser entities, until finally the very gods themselves will bend the knee and recognise the supremacy of the Machine-God"
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2021/07/26 15:00:27
Subject: Re:Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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The characters and Thousand Sons models all look great; but the PA Grey Knights and Dread Knight are terrible in comparison. They really should have held Crowe back until they were ready to revamp the line. Honestly though I really dislike these split boxes, nearly every time one of the factions are an army I have no interest in playing.
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2021/07/26 15:05:08
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Surprising that GW made a box like this filled with old marines. Seems like it will be a disaster
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lost and damned log
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039 |
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2021/07/26 15:06:00
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Irked Necron Immortal
Switzerland
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Sacredroach wrote:Well, I'll probably get one as I have a Thousand Sons force, and that new Crowe figure is excellent. And I have yet to get my second box of Scarabs anyway...
how do you know if you want to get more in the new codex?
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2021/07/26 15:29:12
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Lord of the Fleet
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When this was announced a while back my thoughts were "We'll get one generic character, if we're lucky a named character, and that's it." Seems to be correct so far.
Love the new Sorcerer but my expectations still aren't high.
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2021/07/26 15:34:46
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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No rubrics. Baby carrier. Dumb.
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2021/07/26 15:37:42
Subject: Re:Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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Unless you are starting a TS army from scratch (in which this is pretty good combined with the start collecting box) or maybe GK (I don't play them so not sure if this is a good set for them) this box is a total miss on both sides. Other than the two "new" characters I am sure the vast majority of TS and GK players already have multiples of the other units in the box (I know I do). This would have been a perfect time to update the GK infantry models (which this kit builds like 3 or 4 squads right?) update the knight (I don't think the kit currently includes a grand-master model right, so add that option), and add at least on more new Fast/Elite unit to TS (cause we don't have many in our book). I think this box is going to sell really well with scalpers, but I don't think a whole lot of players are going to be buying this unless there is a bunch of people waiting to start one or both of these armies. oh well, maybe in 3-4 years (lets face it neither of these factions are getting any more updates prior to their 10th codex or some PA non-sense with all factions getting updated) GW will produce some new models for the factions.
Hopefully the Codex rules will be good. May the blessings of Tzeentch be upon you.
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2021/07/26 16:16:11
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
Xalapa, Veracruz
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Pretty sure all of the two armies boxes usually have the same pricing.
streetsamurai wrote:Surprising that GW made a box like this filled with old marines. Seems like it will be a disaster
You'd be surprised
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2021/07/26 16:19:29
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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I have to admit I'm a little disappointed that it's GK Marines and TS Terminators, not the other way round. I don't have any GK or TS yet though so I'm still interested.
It looks like the contents will be worth about £200 if bought separately, so I wonder what the price will be.
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2021/07/26 16:20:09
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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dreadblade wrote:I have to admit I'm a little disappointed that it's GK Marines and TS Terminators, not the other way round. I don't have any GK or TS yet though so I'm still interested.
It looks like the contents will be worth about £200 if bought separately, so I wonder what the price will be.
I think these have been going around 180$ USD so far.
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2021/07/26 16:52:05
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Disassembled Parts Inside a Talos
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Sasori wrote: dreadblade wrote:I have to admit I'm a little disappointed that it's GK Marines and TS Terminators, not the other way round. I don't have any GK or TS yet though so I'm still interested.
It looks like the contents will be worth about £200 if bought separately, so I wonder what the price will be.
I think these have been going around 180$ USD so far.
They’re normally around £95 in real money though some have been more.
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2021/07/26 17:14:23
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Resculpted Crowe makes the old GK with their box mags going everywhere look even more ridiculous. And then there's the Dreadpapoose to underscore the ridiculousness of it all.
Big oof. I was hoping the GK would get some resculpting action.
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2021/07/26 18:52:39
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Executing Exarch
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Are the tentacles terrain bits new or have we seen them before?
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2021/07/26 19:04:02
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They look like custom for studio pics. Some look like parts from the mutalith, while others have bits of deathworld forest on the ends.
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2021/07/26 19:16:18
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Do you also get faction and warlord traits, relics and strats included in the rules with these battle boxes, or is it just datasheets?
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2021/07/26 19:23:17
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Pious Palatine
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zanzibarthefirst wrote: Sasori wrote: dreadblade wrote:I have to admit I'm a little disappointed that it's GK Marines and TS Terminators, not the other way round. I don't have any GK or TS yet though so I'm still interested.
It looks like the contents will be worth about £200 if bought separately, so I wonder what the price will be.
I think these have been going around 180$ USD so far.
They’re normally around £95 in real money though some have been more.
Do people still take disney dollars? I'd think they'd be a bit more wary about it after brexit.
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2021/07/26 19:36:47
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm all for more Scarabs. Those boys should be fire in the new dex. Here's to hoping Tzaangors find a better place, too.
Not sure I can sell off the GK side and I'm not keen on collecting them so maybe I'll pay up for the TS character instead.
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2021/07/26 19:38:43
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Dakka Veteran
Seattle, WA USA
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Mixed feelings on this one. I already have 2 squads of Scarabs, and not sure I need a 3rd. I also already have a Tzaangor Shaman (really don't see a need for 2nd) and a 10-man Tzaangor squad (mostly AOS but they do dual purpose; ok-ish with bulking them out), so there's a lot of "chaff" in the box for me. I do, of course, want the new hero...
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2021/07/26 21:17:40
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Beyond the charachter for ts and the scarabs... This box just does nothing for me.
Tzangoors don't represent TS aswell as rubricae do, the Babycarrier was a bad Model since ever.
The lack of an GK Update is annoying in regards to the models.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
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2021/07/26 21:35:27
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Terrifying Doombull
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On the plus side, box + both books at the same time is two more factions crossed off the update list and we can move on.
At least the 'only one new model' releases are quick,
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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2021/07/26 23:27:12
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Terrifying Wraith
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I still like the existing GKs and have always been fine with the "baby carrier" (read: classic sci fi trope of a mech suit with a pilot suspended in the front of it) so I'm definitely up for this, and am kind of glad they're not getting primaris'd as it kind of invalidates your old army a bit and I genuinely don't like the primaris proportions
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2021/07/26 23:32:41
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Yeah but the 'baby carrier' could have been so much better. Look at one of the original pieces of artwork:
See how the Terminator isn't just hanging there. His legs, much like the new SoB Nundam suits, are integrated into the Dreadknight's legs?
I'm convinced that this would be a model everyone loves rather than one that gets constant ridicule 11 years since its release.
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2021/07/27 00:07:01
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Price point is probably $160, thats the traditional price point for these types of boxes though sometimes they go up a bit - theres not nearly as much content as Blood of the Phoenix to justify that type of pricing.
Box is a disappointment IMO, I usually buy 2 copies of these things but I might skip this one or try to split it for the 1kSons half. Even then, its not really what I would have wanted the 1K sons half to look like.
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2021/07/27 00:40:19
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
Xalapa, Veracruz
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Everyday it passes I feel like I am the only one who actually likes the babycarrier...
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2021/07/27 01:06:12
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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I am just surprised that they are releasing a miniature (Infernal Master) that is supposed to be this great summoner of deamons but did not include a unit of deamons in the box. Hell one set of Screamers, would have been perfect.
Seriously, nothing on the Chaos side even has the deamon keyword. So why are the GreyKnights even there? Also the Chaos side loses the psykic battle with fewer psykers on the field giving the GK's more deny's.
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2021/07/27 01:16:03
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
Xalapa, Veracruz
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Nicorex wrote:I am just surprised that they are releasing a miniature (Infernal Master) that is supposed to be this great summoner of deamons but did not include a unit of deamons in the box. Hell one set of Screamers, would have been perfect.
Technically, he is summoning screamers right now, you know.
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2021/07/27 01:28:15
Subject: Hexfire - GK vs TS box discussion
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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CMLR wrote: Nicorex wrote:I am just surprised that they are releasing a miniature (Infernal Master) that is supposed to be this great summoner of deamons but did not include a unit of deamons in the box. Hell one set of Screamers, would have been perfect.
Technically, he is summoning screamers right now, you know.
Which is why it would have been a great idea to have a unit of screamers in the box.
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"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out. |
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