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2021/08/09 15:10:03
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Confirmed!! Primaris Repulsor Crusader to carry the Champion, now with even more guns!!
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2021/08/09 15:17:15
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Bamberg / Erlangen
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By the way, in the Octarius preview GW teases a Black Templar army box.
Going forwards, we’re looking at ways we can make sure you don’t miss out on other awesome box sets too. So if, for instance, there was a sweet new Black Templars launch box on the horizon (just imagine that!) then that also sounds like the sort of box we’d want to make sure you could all get your hands on.
HYPE
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2021/08/09 15:29:56
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Dakka Veteran
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As someone who typically shakes my head at GW's often unnecessarily extravagant designs, blinged up equipment and daft poses, I'm somehow looking at the new model and thinking it's actually rather... boring.
Would have preferred the laurels to be part of the helm as per the older models. The last version (shown in the article) has a certain elegance to it with that pose. This one seems to have gone for the same effect but it's been marred by the obligatory tactical rock and general bulkiness.
It's not exactly bad, just looks like a fairly run of the mill kitbash.
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2021/08/09 15:44:50
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Not a fan of this re-design, really. The post of the original version had a sense of nobility and chivalry to it, holding his sword aloft in a sort of casual yet proud way without showing off. The pose of the new one really has the usual problems of current designs, with it being obnoxiously emotive - the way he's holding the sword in combination with his stance gives it much more of an unreserved brash, boasting sort of feel, while the position of his legs and other arm at the same time make it feel quite busy and unsophisticated. Things can't just be a simple yet evocative pose anymore, everything has to have sort of forced feel' to it.
It's like it's gone from a believable in-universe pose showing a sense of honour for the Emperor's Chamption, to the sort of thing you'd get as a generic tone-deaf PVP video game's wacky obnoxious victory pose where everything needs to dramatically show off.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/08/09 15:45:24
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2021/08/09 15:47:46
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Dakka Veteran
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Old one is perfection, so this had quite the standard to try and uphold. I’ll stick with my current one thanks tho
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2021/08/09 15:54:08
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mm yeah, if I was at all likely to collect Templars I'd be minded to rescue a finecast one and rescue the head, torso and sword blade then rebuild him using... Probably deathwatch arms and legs.
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2021/08/09 15:55:26
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Raging Rat Ogre
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Well, it isn't any better than the already available current iteration bar being plastic and a bit bigger, if that sort of thing floats your boat.
I like the left hand with the beads as well... Erm, otherwise the older one is just a bit nicer overall I find.
The floaty papery bits and hover wreath do nothing for me tbh.
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2021/08/09 15:56:29
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Mind...blown!
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2021/08/09 16:02:01
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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New model is... fine. The current one is exquisite though, so it's hard to top. Whenever I see this model the first thing I hear in my head is "I see you Schwartz is as big as mine!". Much prefer the latter version that came out, and wasn't Limited. I have two: One as normal, and the other with a Jump Pack.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/08/09 16:02:58
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2021/08/09 16:04:10
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Regular Dakkanaut
Canada
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What's with the long gorilla arms?
GW still can't sculpt cloth.
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Old World Prediction: The Empire will have stupid Clockwork Paragon Warsuits and Mecha Horses |
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2021/08/09 16:12:31
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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[DCM]
Stonecold Gimster
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The swooshing lines of that top breastplate just makes me think he's wearing a Britney crop top.
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My Painting Blog: http://gimgamgoo.com/
Currently most played: Silent Death, Xenos Rampant, Mars Code Aurora and Battletech.
I tried dabbling with 40k9/10 again and tried AoS3 - disliked both, but I'm enjoying HH2 and trying Battletech Classic and AS out |
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2021/08/09 16:13:43
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Dakka Veteran
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The parchment flapping about looks fake, and the folds of the cloth too sharp. GW's new sculpting/casting techniques don't do cloth very well.
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2021/08/09 16:17:10
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Dakka Veteran
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The floaty bits are terrible -- purity seals, laurels, etc. They ruin the weight of the model's pose and obfuscate its profile.
The pose isn't great either, as the left arm is at an odd, half-cocked angle. The relative position of the legs and arms places all of the weight on the model's right side.
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Madness is however an affliction which in war carries with it the advantage of surprise - Winston Churchill |
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2021/08/09 16:19:33
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Regular Dakkanaut
Canada
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The tabard going under the chest armour and poking out of the stomach is a bad look and no one can change my mind. Please stop.
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Old World Prediction: The Empire will have stupid Clockwork Paragon Warsuits and Mecha Horses |
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2021/08/09 16:25:36
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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Goose LeChance wrote:The tabard going under the chest armour and poking out of the stomach is a bad look and no one can change my mind. Please stop.
I agree with this. It looks weird.
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2021/08/09 16:27:10
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looks okay.
The pose is a bit awkward.
Needs more bling…like a lot more
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Square Bases for Life!
AoS is pure garbage
Kill Primaris, Kill the Primarchs. They don't belong in 40K
40K is fantasy in space, not sci-fi |
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2021/08/09 16:29:42
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Lieutenant General
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It however is consistent with the Bladeguard Veterans.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2021/08/09 16:31:12
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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Yeah, it is consistent, still looks weird on both
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2021/08/09 17:06:35
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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That's not how you hold a sword if you plan to actually hit someone with its edge. He's basically just holding it as "hey, look at my neat sword!"
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2021/08/09 17:24:44
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Not a fan. Why not just rescale the current one into plastic? That Juan Diaz one is a masterpiece. The sword is at the wrong angle (complete with confusing Latin. "Light Emperor" makes no sense. At least "Emperor King" on the current one hits the ear right), the He-Man pose is not a scratch on the current one, where he looks like he's relentlessly coming for you and about to feth you up. Unnecessary ribbons all over him. The list goes on...
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
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2021/08/09 17:32:15
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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Something about primaris looks off to me; the fat ankles and awkward leg poses don't make for a good silhouette. I will always take little marines over these.
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2021/08/09 17:33:47
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Wow that is a boring model, easily converted from something else.
Swing and a miss for me
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2021/08/09 17:39:45
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Calculating Commissar
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I think the flapping streamers mess with the silhouette too much for my liking, though that's in all likelihood less distracting when seeing the model as a 3D object and not a still image.
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The supply does not get to make the demands. |
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2021/08/09 17:43:45
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's a nice model, but the pose is not as good as the old one. The old emperors champion is perfection apart from its scale.
Also the new one is holding his sword wrong, what's up with that? No skilled swordsman would ever hold his weapon that way, ever. It's an easy fix, but still....
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2021/08/09 17:44:47
Subject: Re:New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Why does he have straps on his greaves/chestplate? Are they the grimdark equivalent of extraneous non-functional zips?
Why doesn't he have the gorget which all other Mk10 plate features? (the artwork has it)
Is the belt supposed to be a replacement for the belt/waist section built into the armour why would you want that?
Why is his holster in such an inaccessible place?
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2021/08/09 17:54:52
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
Minnesota
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a_typical_hero wrote:By the way, in the Octarius preview GW teases a Black Templar army box.
Going forwards, we’re looking at ways we can make sure you don’t miss out on other awesome box sets too. So if, for instance, there was a sweet new Black Templars launch box on the horizon (just imagine that!) then that also sounds like the sort of box we’d want to make sure you could all get your hands on.
HYPE
I saw this as well. Hype indeed.
Glad to see they Bumped my boy EC into Primaris. I was considering making my own conversion but now I don't have to. Would love to see some more new stuff for my BT boys, but if this is all the new we get in a new BT box, as long as it comes with Assault Intercessors, I'm in!
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2021/08/09 17:57:17
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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I for one wanna know if we are gonna be able to take Primaris Company/Chapter Champions now.
Been holding off on my Lieutenant to Champion conversion for too long.
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2021/08/09 18:02:00
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Tiberias wrote:It's a nice model, but the pose is not as good as the old one. The old emperors champion is perfection apart from its scale.
Also the new one is holding his sword wrong, what's up with that? No skilled swordsman would ever hold his weapon that way, ever. It's an easy fix, but still....
He's not holding his sword as if he's fighting, he's raising it in acknowledgement.
The best description I can give is that he's doing a Lion-o
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2021/08/09 18:14:59
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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Vorian wrote:Tiberias wrote:It's a nice model, but the pose is not as good as the old one. The old emperors champion is perfection apart from its scale.
Also the new one is holding his sword wrong, what's up with that? No skilled swordsman would ever hold his weapon that way, ever. It's an easy fix, but still....
He's not holding his sword as if he's fighting, he's raising it in acknowledgement.
The best description I can give is that he's doing a Lion-o
He's doing a He-Man
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/08/09 18:30:14
Subject: New Emperor's Champion model(40k Black Templars)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Your 80s icon of choice.
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