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The job description leaves room for interpretation what exactly GW will be looking for to sue or send C&D letters to.

Do we think they will handle Youtube channels and fan sites differently from the last few months because of that one additional staff member?

Why not wait and see what comes out of it instead of getting worked up on things that haven't happened, yet?

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But, as someone else told me, aren't a lot of the recasters kind of out of reach in parts of the world with a fluid take on IP

So it'll just be swinging at the low hanging fruit with the odd overstep lest the record profits become less recordy

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 Turnip Jedi wrote:
But, as someone else told me, aren't a lot of the recasters kind of out of reach in parts of the world with a fluid take on IP

So it'll just be swinging at the low hanging fruit with the odd overstep lest the record profits become less recordy




This.

Neither russia nor Chinacast will care.
this will just target 3d Printing community and artists in there for either Infringement or imagined infringement.


Frankly this is just more of the most recent trend of GW further targetting community goodwill for no other reason then to look good to investors.

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 Turnip Jedi wrote:
So it'll just be swinging at the low hanging fruit with the odd overstep lest the record profits become less recordy


It's hard to imagine all of the recast sales were missed sales to GW. An unaffordable price does not just become affordable due to a lack of alternative.

Anyone who can stomach GW prices was likely already buying legit products to begin with.
   
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I know people often make this claim, but this really did make me spit out my coffee (well cup of tea) while reading

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Are all these people bemoaning GW here saying that copyright infringement, the making of counterfeit goods are ok??

Because a company is big it shouldn’t protect its IP and actual products?

WTF?
   
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Considering gw's ip if created nowadays would get C&Ded the feth out off?

Or the fact that it already attempted to target what was protected under "Fair Use"...


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Andykp wrote:
Are all these people bemoaning GW here saying that copyright infringement, the making of counterfeit goods are ok??

Because a company is big it shouldn’t protect its IP and actual products?

WTF?


No, it's just the shaky narrative of somehow doing us a favour when like you say its about protecting IP and wotnot

And like Jojo said it isn't really lost GW sales as folks indulging in 3d or recasts never had the intention of GW purchases, of course I'm already damned in GW eyes for those Chapterhouse Jetseers I bought (as the 4 boxes of legit bikes I had to buy was offset by not buying a model that GW didn't do at the time)

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Andykp wrote:
Are all these people bemoaning GW here saying that copyright infringement, the making of counterfeit goods are ok??

Because a company is big it shouldn’t protect its IP and actual products?

WTF?


Reductionism is fun, y'all!

For starters? Let us all remember that, for something to be a counterfeit, there must exist something you're counterfeiting it from. Not "using the same aesthetics" or "being substitutes for" but actual counterfeits like resin clones or something.

So you're kind of sweeping a lot of things under a very broad rug that probably won't fit under it.

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drbored wrote:
caladancid wrote:
drbored wrote:
Want to blame someone? Blame Disney for helping push copyright laws to this ridiculous point.


I think I will probably just blame GW and their enablers.


Will literally do nothing but keep you upset. You want change? Write to your congressperson about removing major corp monopolies on IP and relaxing IP laws internationally.


Ah yes, surely an american politician will get british ip laws to change.
   
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This is hilarious.

They're hiring for a non-lawyer, assistant role. If that role is new at all and not just a replacement for someone leaving (which I think is far more likely), it would basically mean that they want greater capabilities to do the low-level work inhouse, as opposed to paying ballooned fees for external lawyers' assistants performing the same work, something they would have been doing for the past few years. In that case, it only shows that they've accepted IP protection work is going to stay with them for longer, and that they're better off not to outsource all of it (which for a UK company, is quite an insight).

But what some people on here make of this news… Well, I guess we'll see if hiring this assistant leads to a wave of new IP litigation.

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TheGoodGerman wrote:
This is hilarious.

They're hiring for a non-lawyer, assistant role. If that role is new at all and not just a replacement for someone leaving (which I think is far more likely), it would basically mean that they want greater capabilities to do the low-level work inhouse, as opposed to paying ballooned fees for external lawyers' assistants performing the same work, something they would have been doing for the past few years. In that case, it only shows that they've accepted IP protection work is going to stay with them for longer, and that they're better off not to outsource all of it (which for a UK company, is quite an insight).

But what some people on here make of this news… Well, I guess we'll see if hiring this assistant leads to a wave of new IP litigation.

I mean... we're already in a new wave of C&D, so...
   
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I think it's absurd how so many seem to be trying to make out GW as being bad by doing this. Should they not be allowed to stop unauthorized uses of their IP?
   
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To me this sounds more like hiring to get rid of the STCs going around, which I can't really blame them for.
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
TheGoodGerman wrote:
This is hilarious.

They're hiring for a non-lawyer, assistant role. If that role is new at all and not just a replacement for someone leaving (which I think is far more likely), it would basically mean that they want greater capabilities to do the low-level work inhouse, as opposed to paying ballooned fees for external lawyers' assistants performing the same work, something they would have been doing for the past few years. In that case, it only shows that they've accepted IP protection work is going to stay with them for longer, and that they're better off not to outsource all of it (which for a UK company, is quite an insight).

But what some people on here make of this news… Well, I guess we'll see if hiring this assistant leads to a wave of new IP litigation.

I mean... we're already in a new wave of C&D, so...

Just clicked on the job advert. It is still open, so the new person cannot have done much yet.

But I'll admit I'm not monitoring GW. What is this wave, an increase in C&D letters? Where, and against whom?
   
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Just to add a bit of context for those outside of the UK (where GW is based).

The UK used to be part of WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization).

This was a group of 193 member states who collaborated together to protect intellectual property.

However, from September 2021 (the end of the 9 month Brexit transition period), the UK actually leaves WIPO.

This was one of those "unforeseen" consequences of Brexit (which is ridiculous but hey, the whole thing has been a clown show...).

The UK may well rejoin WIPO but, for the time being, is on its own and is now UKIPO.

This has both weakened IP protection for UK companies, but at the same time because we now sit outside WIPO allows UK companies to go after infringements within those 193 member states that they couldn't before.

So if you're wondering why, all of a sudden GW seem to be making a big deal regarding IP protection, it's because UK companies are currently panicking as they don't actually know how to protect their IP.....

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That's very interesting to read StraightSilver - thanks for adding a bit of context there. Would certainly explain why GW recently seems to have been going back to the late 00's recently with the legal ongoings.

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StraightSilver wrote:
Just to add a bit of context for those outside of the UK (where GW is based).

The UK used to be part of WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization).

This was a group of 193 member states who collaborated together to protect intellectual property.

However, from September 2021 (the end of the 9 month Brexit transition period), the UK actually leaves WIPO.

This was one of those "unforeseen" consequences of Brexit (which is ridiculous but hey, the whole thing has been a clown show...).

The UK may well rejoin WIPO but, for the time being, is on its own and is now UKIPO.

This has both weakened IP protection for UK companies, but at the same time because we now sit outside WIPO allows UK companies to go after infringements within those 193 member states that they couldn't before.

So if you're wondering why, all of a sudden GW seem to be making a big deal regarding IP protection, it's because UK companies are currently panicking as they don't actually know how to protect their IP.....


Ah Brexit. The gift that keeps on giving.
   
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caladancid wrote:
https://jobs.games-workshop.com/search-and-apply/infringements-assistant
Where are all my "Games Workshop is just making these rules to have them, they won't actively go after people" bros at?


GW already has these, and it's probably just replacing someone who's leaving so?
   
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This is definitely intriguing.

I actually think this job would be somewhat interesting and also quite secure. Why do I get the feeling this position will probably evolve in the future to be part of a dedicated team if it isn't already. I think it can only grow from here.
   
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 Pacific wrote:
That's very interesting to read StraightSilver - thanks for adding a bit of context there. Would certainly explain why GW recently seems to have been going back to the late 00's recently with the legal ongoings.
It's not just GW - TT Combat is doing it as well, and have banned discussion of 3D printing from their official channels:

We would like everyone to be aware that 3d printing of alternatives to official product is not something we want to encourage so any posts in regard to 3D printented models will be removed.
   
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lost_lilliputian wrote:
This is definitely intriguing.

I actually think this job would be somewhat interesting and also quite secure. Why do I get the feeling this position will probably evolve in the future to be part of a dedicated team if it isn't already. I think it can only grow from here.


my guess is it is part of a team. they're eaither simply adding to the team (for the reasons straightsilver indicated) or replacing someone whose retired.




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 Turnip Jedi wrote:
But, as someone else told me, aren't a lot of the recasters kind of out of reach in parts of the world with a fluid take on IP

So it'll just be swinging at the low hanging fruit with the odd overstep lest the record profits become less recordy


I suppose they could report those sites to google and try and get google to delist them from search engines.

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StraightSilver wrote:
Just to add a bit of context for those outside of the UK (where GW is based).

Pretty interesting, thanks for that

I find it funny how you mostly can end up anything regarding UK nowadays with "... and then Brexit".
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
StraightSilver wrote:
Just to add a bit of context for those outside of the UK (where GW is based).

Pretty interesting, thanks for that

I find it funny how you mostly can end up anything regarding UK nowadays with "... and then Brexit".


It's almost like it was a bad poorly thought out idea?

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 The Phazer wrote:
caladancid wrote:
https://jobs.games-workshop.com/search-and-apply/infringements-assistant
Where are all my "Games Workshop is just making these rules to have them, they won't actively go after people" bros at?


GW already has these, and it's probably just replacing someone who's leaving so?


Have you got a source for them already having them? The updated IP guidelines stuff was also a situation where people jumped to conclusions and said it was a sudden bad thing they were doing, despite the guidelines that were in place for over half a decade already saying the very same things as the "new" guidelines. Would make it all even more absurd if this is another misrepresentation of something they've already had for years that's suddenly being used for a "GW Evil!" narrative.

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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
caladancid wrote:
https://jobs.games-workshop.com/search-and-apply/infringements-assistant
Where are all my "Games Workshop is just making these rules to have them, they won't actively go after people" bros at?


GW already has these, and it's probably just replacing someone who's leaving so?


Have you got a source for them already having them? The updated IP guidelines stuff was also a situation where people jumped to conclusions and said it was a sudden bad thing they were doing, despite the guidelines that were in place for over half a decade already saying the very same things as the "new" guidelines. Would make it all even more absurd if this is another misrepresentation of something they've already had for years that's suddenly being used for a "GW Evil!" narrative.


The job role feels like a standard legal assistant role that a qualified solicitor would have, they essentially do the pen pushing and leg work, then the documentation is filed under the solicitor who then conducts the serious litigation.

It would be odd to have two unqualified legal staff not reporting into an existing solicitor.
   
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Dudeface wrote:
The job role feels like a standard legal assistant role that a qualified solicitor would have, they essentially do the pen pushing and leg work, then the documentation is filed under the solicitor who then conducts the serious litigation.

Well, except for the "no qualifications" part ^^

Or is that something usual?

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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I think it's absurd how so many seem to be trying to make out GW as being bad by doing this. Should they not be allowed to stop unauthorized uses of their IP?


Exactly right. Also, it's important to note that IP infringement (of whatever kind) doesn't just hurt a business in terms of sales. There's reputational damage to take into account, plus long term damage to the brand. This has the potential to become a much bigger problem than merely losing the odd sale here and there.



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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Now hiring: professional snitch

Don't think for a moment this dude won't flag minor infractions like fanart when he needs to meet quota.


I do wish you would stop extrapolating horror scenarios that simply aren't / can't ever be the case. This is 'slippery slope' fallacy, and one we see all too often on these boards.

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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
 The Phazer wrote:
caladancid wrote:
https://jobs.games-workshop.com/search-and-apply/infringements-assistant
Where are all my "Games Workshop is just making these rules to have them, they won't actively go after people" bros at?


GW already has these, and it's probably just replacing someone who's leaving so?


Have you got a source for them already having them? The updated IP guidelines stuff was also a situation where people jumped to conclusions and said it was a sudden bad thing they were doing, despite the guidelines that were in place for over half a decade already saying the very same things as the "new" guidelines. Would make it all even more absurd if this is another misrepresentation of something they've already had for years that's suddenly being used for a "GW Evil!" narrative.


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