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 Yarium wrote:
I think you just cited it with the allegiance rule itself stating that he doesn’t owe allegiance. You are welcome to your interpretation.


Did you actually read the rule ? All Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods. Except Belakor, because he owes allegiance to all four gods. There is no room for misinterpretation. If a unit has a certain keyword, it owes allegiance to that god. The example clearly states that.

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 p5freak wrote:


Lets look at the allegiance rule.

<ALLEGIANCE>
With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods. Most datasheets specify which Chaos God the unit owes allegiance to (e.g. a Great Unclean One has the NURGLE keyword, so owes allegiance to Nurgle). If a Chaos Daemons datasheet does not specify which Chaos God it owes allegiance to, it will have the <ALLEGIANCE> keyword. When you include such a unit in your army, you must choose which of the Chaos Gods it owes its allegiance to. It then replaces its <ALLEGIANCE> keyword in every instance on its datasheet with the name of its patron Chaos God: KHORNE, TZEENTCH, NURGLE or SLAANESH.


The example is quite clear, the great unclean one has the NURGLE keyword, so he owes owes allegiance to NURGLE. Belakor has all four keywords, so he owes allegiance to all four gods.
Actually if you re-read the allegiance rule, it is clear that Be’lakor does not owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods.

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Does Be’Lakor owe allegiance to Slaanesh?
Yes.

No equivocating is needed. You could say more, but the answer to the question is clear.

Even when it lists him as an exception, it doesn’t say “Be’Lakor does not owe allegiance to any god,” it simply says he does not owe allegiance to ONE god.

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 JNAProductions wrote:
Does Be’Lakor owe allegiance to Slaanesh?
Yes.

No equivocating is needed. You could say more, but the answer to the question is clear.

Even when it lists him as an exception, it doesn’t say “Be’Lakor does not owe allegiance to any god,” it simply says he does not owe allegiance to ONE god.
Except, "With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods"

So clearly asking "Does Be’Lakor owe allegiance to Slaanesh?" can not be answered with a simple yes. It can be answered by saying 'No, he owes his allegiance to Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle and Slaanesh.'

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Does the keeper of secrets owe allegiance to the same god as belakor?
No
   
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nosferatu1001 wrote:
Does the keeper of secrets owe allegiance to the same god as belakor?
No
The way you worded it, yes, yes, it does.

You'd be right to say no if you had said "gods".

To clarify, there is nothing here to suggest the statement is meant to be interpreted as an XOR statement.

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warped wrote:
nosferatu1001 wrote:
Does the keeper of secrets owe allegiance to the same god as belakor?
No
The way you worded it, yes, yes, it does.

You'd be right to say no if you had said "gods".

To clarify, there is nothing here to suggest the statement is meant to be interpreted as an XOR statement.
"With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods"

Is Slaanesh a chaos god? (A: Yes)

Can Be’lakor owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods? (A: No)

Therefore Be’lakor can not, by definition, owe allegiance to Slaanesh.
.

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Be’Lakor does not owe allegiance to ONE of the four. He owes it to all four.

It’s like asking “Does your username here contain an e?”
For Deathreaper and Nosferatu, the answer to that is yes. There are more letters, but it’s not asking about those.

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 DeathReaper wrote:

Can Be’lakor owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods? (A: No)

The Be'lakor from the War Zone Charadon supplement fulfils the requirement just fine.

Your Battle-forged army fulfils the requirement of Daemonic Loci if all picked characters owe their allegiance to Slaanesh.
How do you check if a daemon owes its allegiance to a specific god? You check the faction keywords.

An explanation of how to check is on page 84 of the Chaos Daemons Codex:

(e.g. a Great Unclean One has the NURGLE keyword, so owes allegiance to Nurgle)

Be'lakor aces that check and the same goes with verifying the allegiance to the other three Chaos Gods.

War Zone Charadon Act 2 states that Be'lakor, as he appears in that supplement, replaces the one from the Codex. That is communicated not only once but twice, on pages 62 and 74 in the book. So he really does owe allegiance to the lot.

The first sentence of the definition of <Allegiance> mentions Be'lakor as he appeared in the Codex. The newer supplement calls it out and explains that the newer version takes precedence.

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 JNAProductions wrote:
Be’Lakor does not owe allegiance to ONE of the four. He owes it to all four.

It’s like asking “Does your username here contain an e?”
For Deathreaper and Nosferatu, the answer to that is yes. There are more letters, but it’s not asking about those.
For deathreaper that is not right, but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

As per a prior post of mine, I have proven that Be’lakor can not owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods.

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 DeathReaper wrote:
 JNAProductions wrote:
Be’Lakor does not owe allegiance to ONE of the four. He owes it to all four.

It’s like asking “Does your username here contain an e?”
For Deathreaper and Nosferatu, the answer to that is yes. There are more letters, but it’s not asking about those.
For deathreaper that is not right, but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

As per a prior post of mine, I have proven that Be’lakor can not owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods.


Actually your post didn't prove it.

Be'lakor has the keyword for all 4 Chaos Gods. As was pointed out, that is used for determining allegiance. They aren't asking if he has allegiance to only one god, but if he also has an allegiance to the Chaos god that the other units in the detachment have. He fulfills the requirements of having allegiance to all 4 Chaos Gods. Having allegiance to one of those four is merely a subset of him having allegiance to all 4. Does he have allegiance? Yes, it come with having allegiance to all 4 Chaos Gods.
   
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 doctortom wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
 JNAProductions wrote:
Be’Lakor does not owe allegiance to ONE of the four. He owes it to all four.

It’s like asking “Does your username here contain an e?”
For Deathreaper and Nosferatu, the answer to that is yes. There are more letters, but it’s not asking about those.
For deathreaper that is not right, but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

As per a prior post of mine, I have proven that Be’lakor can not owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods.


Actually your post didn't prove it.
It did if you understood it. Here it is again.

"With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods"

Is Slaanesh a chaos god? (A: Yes)

Can Be’lakor owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods? (A: No)

Therefore Be’lakor can not, by definition, owe allegiance to Slaanesh.

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 DeathReaper wrote:
 doctortom wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
 JNAProductions wrote:
Be’Lakor does not owe allegiance to ONE of the four. He owes it to all four.

It’s like asking “Does your username here contain an e?”
For Deathreaper and Nosferatu, the answer to that is yes. There are more letters, but it’s not asking about those.
For deathreaper that is not right, but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

As per a prior post of mine, I have proven that Be’lakor can not owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods.


Actually your post didn't prove it.
It did if you understood it. Here it is again.

"With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods"

Is Slaanesh a chaos god? (A: Yes)

Can Be’lakor owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods? (A: No)

Therefore Be’lakor can not, by definition, owe allegiance to Slaanesh.


Just repeating it doesn't make it true.

"With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods"

Be'lakor has allegiance to all four Chaos Gods, not just one.

"Can Be’lakor owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods? (A: No)"

Wrong. (A:Yes). He has allegiance to all four gods. Is Slaanesh one of the four Chaos Gods Be'lakor has allegiance to? If he has the SLAANESH keyword, then the answer is yes, just like the answer would be yes for any of the other Chaos Gods he has the keyword for.
   
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B'e'lakor or has the ALLEGIANCE keyword.

Locus tells you to choose what that means, i.e. pick a keyword for one of the four and replace.

That is which god is setting up his bar tab and *ought* to be crystal clear to any good faith reader.

Alternatively, twist oneself into loops trying to apply FAQ from one book to a different one released significantly later. Your choice.
   
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 doctortom wrote:
Just repeating it doesn't make it true.
The logic behind it does though.

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 DeathReaper wrote:
 doctortom wrote:
Just repeating it doesn't make it true.
The logic behind it does though.
"Does [THING X] meet [CRITERIA Y]?"

If [THING X] meets [CRITERIA Y] and [CRITERIA Z] it still meets Y.

Be'Lakor meets the criteria of "Owes allegiance to Slaanesh." Him also meeting the criteria of "Owes allegiance to Nurgle," and :Owes allegiance to Khorne," and "Owes allegiance to Tzeentch," doesn't somehow make the first bit false.


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 DeathReaper wrote:
 JNAProductions wrote:
Be’Lakor does not owe allegiance to ONE of the four. He owes it to all four.

It’s like asking “Does your username here contain an e?”
For Deathreaper and Nosferatu, the answer to that is yes. There are more letters, but it’s not asking about those.
For deathreaper that is not right, but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

As per a prior post of mine, I have proven that Be’lakor can not owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods.
Also, your username here has an e in it.

That's... That shouldn't even be in question.

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 DeathReaper wrote:
 doctortom wrote:
Just repeating it doesn't make it true.
The logic behind it does though.

So you're out of arguments?
Okay, good effort.

Moving on.
   
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 DeathReaper wrote:
 doctortom wrote:
Just repeating it doesn't make it true.
The logic behind it does though.


Not when it ignores what Allegiance says, as many people have been pointing out to you. According to those rules, he has the allegiance.


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 JNAProductions wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
 doctortom wrote:
Just repeating it doesn't make it true.
The logic behind it does though.
"Does [THING X] meet [CRITERIA Y]?"

If [THING X] meets [CRITERIA Y] and [CRITERIA Z] it still meets Y.

Be'Lakor meets the criteria of "Owes allegiance to Slaanesh." Him also meeting the criteria of "Owes allegiance to Nurgle," and :Owes allegiance to Khorne," and "Owes allegiance to Tzeentch," doesn't somehow make the first bit false.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 DeathReaper wrote:
 JNAProductions wrote:
Be’Lakor does not owe allegiance to ONE of the four. He owes it to all four.

It’s like asking “Does your username here contain an e?”
For Deathreaper and Nosferatu, the answer to that is yes. There are more letters, but it’s not asking about those.
For deathreaper that is not right, but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

As per a prior post of mine, I have proven that Be’lakor can not owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods.
Also, your username here has an e in it.

That's... That shouldn't even be in question.



This. He's reading it as if it says "only one Chaos God", which it doesn't.

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warped wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
 doctortom wrote:
Just repeating it doesn't make it true.
The logic behind it does though.

So you're out of arguments?
Okay, good effort.

Moving on.
because my argument was correct, no reason to look at anything else...


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As have been shown, a unit has allegiance to a specific Chaos God if it has that's gods Keyword.

The old Be'lakor rules had none of the Chaos God Keywords and thus did not have allegiance to one of the Chaos Gods.

The new Be'lakor rules has all 4 of the Chaos God Keywords and thus has allegiance to all four of the Chaos Gods.

So if you put Be'lakor in a Chaos Daemon detachment that is otherwise filled with units that have allegiance to the same one of the Chaos Gods, all units in the detachment have allegiance to that Chaos God since all the units, including Be'lakor, have that Chaos Gods keyword.

This is not rocket science people, it is simple logic.
   
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Normally "As have been shown, a unit has allegiance to a specific Chaos God if it has that's gods Keyword." is true, however Be’lakor does not because of the allegiance rules.

Lets look at the allegiance rule.

"<ALLEGIANCE> With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods."

Is Be’lakor classified as belonging to the group " Chaos Daemons" (A: Yes)

Does Be’lakor owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods? (A: The allegiance rules say he does not).

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When you look at belakor from a keepers perspective he has allegiance with, at best, 4 different grids. Therefore does not have allegiance to slaanesh as he has allegiance to Nurgle.

Yiu don't get to just ignore the three other marks because you find it inconvenient.


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To be clear: With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods

This means belakor either owes allegiance to
- no gods
Or
- all four gods

Both are completely correct ways of parsing this, but the second option is the less likely way due to convention.

So if you ask - does a KoS owe allegiance to the same god as belakor? you're required to answer either:
1) No, because he owes allegiance to no gods
Or
2) No, because he owes allegiance to {K, N, T, S}

Anything else is an incorrect or incomplete response to the question.

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nosferatu1001 wrote:
When you look at belakor from a keepers perspective he has allegiance with, at best, 4 different grids. Therefore does not have allegiance to slaanesh as he has allegiance to Nurgle.

Yiu don't get to just ignore the three other marks because you find it inconvenient.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
To be clear: With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods

This means belakor either owes allegiance to
- no gods
Or
- all four gods

Both are completely correct ways of parsing this, but the second option is the less likely way due to convention.

So if you ask - does a KoS owe allegiance to the same god as belakor? you're required to answer either:
1) No, because he owes allegiance to no gods
Or
2) No, because he owes allegiance to {K, N, T, S}

Anything else is an incorrect or incomplete response to the question.
If I'm wearing a polo shirt, and someone asks "Does your shirt have buttons?" is my answer incorrect or incomplete if I say "Yes,"?

It does NOT ask "Does this unit owe allegiance to Slaanesh and Slaanesh alone?" It only asks if allegiance is owed to Slaanesh.

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Isn't this all missing the forest through the trees though? There are no Slaneeshi Daemons to build an army with, in 40k at least, right? Therefor, according to my understanding of the rules, it would be impossible to even create a Disciples of Belakor list, because there is nothing you could put in it if you made him Slaneshi. Are there Slanesh Marines I'm not aware of? Emperors Children marines? And you can't include Cultists without an equal number of said marines. So if you build a list with Slanesh as the god of choice, what else do you put in the list?
   
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Isn't this all missing the forest through the trees though? There are no Slaneeshi Daemons to build an army with, in 40k at least, right? Therefor, according to my understanding of the rules, it would be impossible to even create a Disciples of Belakor list, because there is nothing you could put in it if you made him Slaneshi. Are there Slanesh Marines I'm not aware of? Emperors Children marines? And you can't include Cultists without an equal number of said marines. So if you build a list with Slanesh as the god of choice, what else do you put in the list?
Urm... Daemonnettes. Keepers of Secrets. The chariots. Contorted Epitome. All the unique characters.

Edit: It's also NOT a Disciples of Be'Lakor army-those get their Locus replaced.

It's a Slaanesh Army with Be'Lakor.

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Huh? There's loads of slaanesh daemons...

JNA - you quoted but nothing indicates you read. Did you miss that the conventional parsing of the sentence is that B has no allegiance at all, to any god?

Or

He has allegiance to all 4, meaning when you ask
Does the KoS owe allegiance to the same gods as B, the answer is NO. You don't get to ignore the ones you don't want to acknowledge just because you like giving incomplete answers.
   
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nosferatu1001 wrote:
Huh? There's loads of slaanesh daemons...

JNA - you quoted but nothing indicates you read. Did you miss that the conventional parsing of the sentence is that B has no allegiance at all, to any god?

Or

He has allegiance to all 4, meaning when you ask
Does the KoS owe allegiance to the same gods as B, the answer is NO. You don't get to ignore the ones you don't want to acknowledge just because you like giving incomplete answers.
But it's not incomplete.

"Does Be'Lakor owe allegiance to Slaanesh?"
Yes.

It doesn't ask if he has allegiance to Slaanesh alone, which is how you're reading it. But that requires adding additional words-words not in the text of the actual rules.

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 JNAProductions wrote:
But it's not incomplete.

"Does Be'Lakor owe allegiance to Slaanesh?"
Yes.

Incorrect, it is no, not yes.

"<ALLEGIANCE> With the exception of Be’lakor, all Chaos Daemons owe allegiance to one of the four Chaos Gods."

Since Slaanesh is "one of the four Chaos Gods." Be’lakor can not owe allegiance to Slaanesh. This is black and white and can not be disputed, as there are no rules that counter this rule about allegiance.

Therefore Be’lakor owes allegiance to no gods.

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 JNAProductions wrote:
nosferatu1001 wrote:
Huh? There's loads of slaanesh daemons...

JNA - you quoted but nothing indicates you read. Did you miss that the conventional parsing of the sentence is that B has no allegiance at all, to any god?

Or

He has allegiance to all 4, meaning when you ask
Does the KoS owe allegiance to the same gods as B, the answer is NO. You don't get to ignore the ones you don't want to acknowledge just because you like giving incomplete answers.
But it's not incomplete.

"Does Be'Lakor owe allegiance to Slaanesh?"
Yes.

It doesn't ask if he has allegiance to Slaanesh alone, which is how you're reading it. But that requires adding additional words-words not in the text of the actual rules.

Again

There are two possible parsings if the allegiance statement
The first states he has no allegiance at all. Address this. You've failed to do so

OR

The second means he has allegiance to four.
This means if you ask "does the KoS have allegiance to the same god as belakor", which is WHAT THE RULE REQUIRES you do, you cannot answer yes. Because no AND yes are both equally valid answers. No; Belakor owes allegiance to Nurgle

Stop ignoring rules you find inconvenient

I'm not requiring "alone". Stop making words up I didn't ever use.

   
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nosferatu1001 wrote:

The second means he has allegiance to four.


You’re right that there are two ways to read it. However, I think that since the rule was written when Be’Lakor had no god keywords, it’s pretty clear that the statement means the first option; allegiance to none. And this rule remains, meaning that the rule is “he has no allegiance”. This rule would remain even if the keywords changed, but the keywords changing doesn’t change the meaning of this rule. Thus; no loci.

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