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2021/10/15 07:54:32
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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mrFickle wrote:What words are you not sure if your saying right? Or have recently learned have been saying incorrectly?
I still say Tuz-ee-nch for Tzeench although I believe it’s prounced chenk….
And I have been saying cust-owed-s but recently heard them called cust-owed-ees
Sorry if my phonetics aren’t very good
English needs an overhaul to normalize pronunciations and spelling, a lot of words are spelt the same but sound different or use different words to make the same mouth sounds.
Tzeentch is Siench. The owner of Blue Table Painting called Tzeentch Tuzeench and Khorne Kahorn as a joke.
Custodies according to lord commander Duncan from an old GW video, same as Astarties. Custoweds seems right according to google translate, If you google translate from latin it becomes Ast-arts and Cu-sto- des.
In a 40k game Leman Russ was pronounced Leman Rus instead of Leman Ros which is the only one I've ever used or heard used previously.
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2021/10/15 08:13:13
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
New Zealand
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Yes. It was in a WD a long time back (10+ years). It is pronounced Katakan apparently.
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2021/10/15 08:13:25
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Battleship Captain
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vict0988 wrote:
English needs an overhaul to normalize pronunciations and spelling
I agree. The current English BRB is too full of ambiguities and questions. They've been writing it since 1884, they've had plenty of time to get it right by now.
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2021/10/15 08:47:48
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Gert wrote:Who's pronouncing Lasgun as Layzgun and why have they not been imprisoned.
I’m pronouncing it laz-gunn, surely that’s a given. As in laser gun Automatically Appended Next Post:
What? I’ve always said nur-gull Automatically Appended Next Post: I say this as an Englishman (I don’t know why I have the Stars and Stripes next to my handle…. Can’t find the button)
But English is a language a for a group of people who all want to be different but all want to be right. The language is a total compromise of regional dialects.
Near me there is a river and they (English people near the river) can’t agree how to pronounce the name of the river so the name change as it move across regional borders and at one point in the rivers journey they have an annual croquet match and the winner gets to determine what they river will be called for the next 12 months.
It’s like something Tolkien would have written about the shire….
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2021/10/15 09:17:44
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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mrFickle wrote:
I’m pronouncing it laz-gunn, surely that’s a given. As in laser gun
Unacceptable, you are to be imprisoned immediately.
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2021/10/15 09:39:19
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In the U.K. it’s pronounced walkerscannon
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2021/10/15 11:08:44
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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As a German the latin is easy, you can read it exactly like german. The hard part was when GW stopped translating english unit names in 7th/8th (they trabslate again since 9th). Noxious Blightbringer? Sloppity Bilepiper? Foetid? Guilliman? Putrifier? Myphitic Blight hauler? (even the translator didn't understand the word Myphitic so it stayed even in 9th ). Spoilpox Scrivener probably flows better when you're drunk.
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2021/10/15 12:07:09
Subject: Re:Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Dakka Veteran
Dudley, UK
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Solitaire88 wrote:It's a vast galaxy where human speech has had millennia diverged drastically from standard Gothic. You can't pronounce stuff wrong.
...unless you're one of those filthy "Kuss-TOAD" people, of course!
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2021/10/15 12:52:57
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Somerdale, NJ, USA
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The first time I heard GW's pronunciation of "Row Boot TEE" I threw up in my mouth a little bit. I've since come to accept that GW's vision of the future really is "grimdark". =(
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"The only problem with your genepool is that there wasn't a lifeguard on duty to prevent you from swimming."
"You either die a Morty, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Rick."
- 8k /// - 5k /// - 5k /// - 6k /// - 6k /// - 4k /// - 4k /// Cust - 3k |
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2021/10/15 13:37:17
Subject: Re:Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Voss wrote:I go with what makes sense or sounds pleasing, rather than letting people 'officially' gouge out my ears with a spork.
^ This.
Some non-canonical pronunciations for me are:
Rob-yoot
Sang-gwin-us
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2021/10/15 13:50:10
Subject: Re:Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Heck, it's bad enough when you hear people say recce as ree-cee, and don't get me started with melee!
Throw in 40k silliness and the ears are sure to bleed.
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2021/10/15 14:31:09
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Damsel of the Lady
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I tend to use (Roman) Latin when pronouncing GW's Imperial stuff. So:
Cust-o-des (with 'des' sound how the Japanese pronounce 'desu', barring the regions that don't silent the 'u'). 'Cus-toads' that I hear a lot bothers me, haha.
A-dep-tus A-star-tes (with 'tes' being pronounced like how fans pronounces the abbreviation for The Elder Scrolls).
Arr-bii-tes (like A-star-tes)
Tzeentch (Zeench)
Tear-a-nids
Druk-hari (rather than Dru-kari)
Lazgun (rather than 'lass-gun')
Probably my most hilarious one: Lemon Russ (rather than, what I'm told, is 'Lee-man Roose').
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2021/10/15 14:39:38
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Sim-Life wrote:Theres no official way to pronounce Tzeentch because Tzeentch is ever-changing.
For what its worth, common pronunciation around here is "zeen- ch"
People do realize the tz sound is, like, in any number of non-European languages, right? Like, this is like saying "I pronounce onion 'unnun' because why would nio go together? It's magic change magic."
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2021/10/15 15:39:00
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Blackie wrote: Sim-Life wrote:
For what its worth, common pronunciation around here is "zeen- ch"
Same here. The "T" is silent, like the "D" in Django .
Correct. I believe Rick Priestley said somewhere the pronunciation of Tzeentch is an onomatopoeia of the sound of a wizard casting a spell.
To further confirm that, there was an article in the late 90s in WD called “Putting the tzap back into Tzeentch”, and that pun would not make sense unless it was pronounced “Zeen- ch”.
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them. |
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2021/10/15 16:32:14
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Fixture of Dakka
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spiralingcadaver wrote: Sim-Life wrote:Theres no official way to pronounce Tzeentch because Tzeentch is ever-changing.
For what its worth, common pronunciation around here is "zeen- ch"
People do realize the tz sound is, like, in any number of non-European languages, right? Like, this is like saying "I pronounce onion 'unnun' because why would nio go together? It's magic change magic."
I'm pretty sure the correct approach is to roll a d6 before trying to pronounce Tzeentch, and the number you roll determines which of the six different letters is silent that time...
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2021/10/15 18:10:34
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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I too called my nids ty-RAN-nids (ty as in tire). It sounded cool and was a fitting name for my awesome space bugs. Boy was I in for a shock the first time I saw a gw video on them...
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2021/10/15 18:19:58
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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With Nid's I think it's just one of those things where you see a Y and assume it sounds like the letter but then English comes along, beats you with a stick, takes your wallet, and laughs as it runs away.
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2021/10/15 18:21:29
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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catbarf wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:Seriously though, I have the same reaction to people who say "Layz-Cannon" or "Layz-gun". It's Lahs!
Gert wrote:Who's pronouncing Lasgun as Layzgun and why have they not been imprisoned.
I'm a simple man: Laser is pronounced lay-zer, it's a laser-gun, I drop the middle syllable, las-gun.
You guys don't do anything weird with the 'chain' part of chainsword, do you?
The verb form "lase" already exists, though. So anyone with a thorough command of language would have gone with "lasegun" if that's how they wanted the word "lasgun" to sound.
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2021/10/15 20:46:30
Subject: Re:Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Roboute Guilliman... i'm surprised only one person has posted about this so far.
I listen to audiobooks rather than read books so I come across all sorts of pronounciations I wasn't expecting.
I did read the Horus Heresy books before moving over to audiobooks and I remember pronouncing torgadon in my head as torg-adon rather than tor-gadon but it's with Roboute Guilliman that i've heard the strangest pronounciations. There have been three im aware of.
Rob-boot Gil-lee-man
Rob-boot-tay Gil-lee-man
and my personal favourite
Row-Boat Goo-lee-man - I swear, there is an audio book out there somewhere where he is called this. I forget which one it is, its not in the heresy series unless its a short story, but its there, somewhere.
Then of course their is the mispronounciation and spelling of "The Lion El Johnson", which in fact should be "The Liar El Johnson" - For Luther, and Caliban.
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2021/10/15 20:54:09
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I honestly can't stand the cuss-toads pronunciation. Or even worse: cuss-toad for singular. By that logic you'd have to pronounce Astartes like as*-tarts.
It's cus-toe-dees both singular and plural, or custodian.
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2021/10/15 21:02:01
Subject: Re:Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Gert wrote:I recently had my entire world shattered when it turns out its not Remus Ven-a-tus but Remus Vent-anus. MY LIFE IS A LIE
Lol.
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Gert wrote:Who's pronouncing Lasgun as Layzgun and why have they not been imprisoned.
I say lays gun… as in it shoots a brand name of potato chips, or crisps depending on who is on the other end of it.
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Dysartes wrote: spiralingcadaver wrote: Sim-Life wrote:Theres no official way to pronounce Tzeentch because Tzeentch is ever-changing.
For what its worth, common pronunciation around here is "zeen- ch"
People do realize the tz sound is, like, in any number of non-European languages, right? Like, this is like saying "I pronounce onion 'unnun' because why would nio go together? It's magic change magic."
I'm pretty sure the correct approach is to roll a d6 before trying to pronounce Tzeentch, and the number you roll determines which of the six different letters is silent that time...
I figured that the idea would be to say it backwards…
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Tiberias wrote:I honestly can't stand the cuss-toads pronunciation. Or even worse: cuss-toad for singular. By that logic you'd have to pronounce Astartes like as*-tarts.
It's cus-toe-dees both singular and plural, or custodian.
Ass tarts… almost as funny as vent anus. Wait a minute…
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2021/10/16 07:56:03
Subject: Re:Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss
Italy
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Stephen1974 wrote:
I did read the Horus Heresy books before moving over to audiobooks and I remember pronouncing torgadon in my head as torg-adon rather than tor-gadon but it's with Roboute Guilliman that i've heard the strangest pronounciations. There have been three im aware of.
Rob-boot Gil-lee-man...
Isn't this the correct one? I've always heard it pronounced this way.
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2021/10/16 08:13:48
Subject: Re:Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The majority of audiobooks have him pronounced Rob-boot-tay Gil-lee-man, so I would go with that. Personally, I would have said Rob-bow Gil-lee-man.
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2021/10/16 09:03:38
Subject: Re:Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Stephen1974 wrote:The majority of audiobooks have him pronounced Rob-boot-tay Gil-lee-man, so I would go with that. Personally, I would have said Rob-bow Gil-lee-man.
Just to clarify, when you are spelling out “Gil-” is that with a hard G like “Gate” and “Gordon” or a soft “Giant” and “Gillette”?
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2021/10/16 09:19:31
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Focused Fire Warrior
Les Etats Unis
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Oh, that explains why no one's laughing.
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Dudeface wrote: Eldarain wrote:Is there another game where players consistently blame each other for the failings of the creator?
If you want to get existential, life for some. |
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2021/10/16 10:14:49
Subject: Re:Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Aash wrote:Stephen1974 wrote:The majority of audiobooks have him pronounced Rob-boot-tay Gil-lee-man, so I would go with that. Personally, I would have said Rob-bow Gil-lee-man.
Just to clarify, when you are spelling out “Gil-” is that with a hard G like “Gate” and “Gordon” or a soft “Giant” and “Gillette”?
Hard G, as in a Fish's Gill.
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2021/10/16 15:57:56
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I remember reading a book review for the first Eisenhorn novel where the user complained that some ragtag cultists were able to kill multiple custodes in the first chapter, when they were actually killing custodians of a burial complex. Small changes like those have the potential to confuse people, even if "custodian" makes perfect sense as a singular form.
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2021/10/16 19:59:41
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
Watch Fortress Excalibris
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I pronounce Roboute Guilliman as if it's a French name. Because I always imagine him as this guy.
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A little bit of righteous anger now and then is good, actually. Don't trust a person who never gets angry. |
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2021/10/16 20:48:30
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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But then he should've been the shortest Primarch, right???
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2021/10/16 22:28:18
Subject: Vocabulary of 40K: are you pronouncing wrong?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Audustum wrote:
Probably my most hilarious one: Lemon Russ (rather than, what I'm told, is 'Lee-man Roose').
Lemon Rush is his pony name.
I tend to pronounce Leman as the actual word (since it is one, albeit archaic).
Its one of those names where I wonder if GW new it was a word and used it anyway, or if they just thought it was unique.
Which, of course, makes me wonder whose lover he was.
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