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Because the nails want to be spread

In Fabius Bile books one serves him and uses a cocktail of drugs to keep it in check.

 alextroy wrote:
Because the nails want to be spread

That... would actually be pretty cool, IMO.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I'd like to see the return of Juggernauts, both as a Character mount and as a unit.

Skullcrushers but with CSM riders would be pretty dam badass.

Magmathrax deservers to be legal once again.

Let's not start picking at threads... As long as they have cool models!

 blood reaper wrote:


Beserker Surgeons have been mentioned in the lore since 4th edition at the latest. I would hope to see figures for them.

Oh, I didn't know that! Where were they first mentioned?

 Strg Alt wrote:

How can they act as techmarines or apothecaries when they suffer from the nails themselves?

They are but a mix of both of them, as the nails are half technology, half biology

As Betrayer stated, the nails are impossible to remove whitout damaging the host, but looks like they are relatively easy to duplicate. As it benefits Khorne and can produce more potential skulls for the skulls throne, is an acceptable tactic and I supose zerker-surgeons are allowed to retain certain inteligence (but, if you read the recent Kharn tale from the WD you'll realize GW is approaching the WE as marines that still can work, talk and plan strategies, as simple as they can be)

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
...Because one need not travel beyond the worship of Khorne to find true gems! Imagine Murderfang squaring off against a mighty Khorgorath:

Spoiler:

I wouldn't be against that being in the WE line-up, alongside the Slaughterbrute

That seems pretty plausible to me, GW likes having demonic models do double-duty, and these Chaos monsters could be explained as fighting beasts from the mortal combat arenas of whatever incarnadine world Berzerkers hail from.

If nothing else, the Khorgorath looks to be the right sort of size and pose to work well as a base for a fleshier WE Hellbrute.

Only exists as part of a multi-sprue at the moment so I wouldn't have my fingers crossed.

From B&Ch



Looks like maybe we'll get the codex this year! (A very big grain of salt is required here)

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Only exists as part of a multi-sprue at the moment so I wouldn't have my fingers crossed.

Ah, that's a shame - wondered why he was only in a SC box atm.

Garrac wrote:
From B&Ch



Looks like maybe we'll get the codex this year! (A very big grain of salt is required here)

Hm, a mix of the very predictable and not. Unfortunately a combination that matches GW releases and false rumormongers both, though this one feels true. Can't put a finger on it though, and certainly with the world as it is plans can change either way.

Garrac wrote:
As Betrayer stated, the nails are impossible to remove whitout damaging the host, but looks like they are relatively easy to duplicate. As it benefits Khorne and can produce more potential skulls for the skulls throne, is an acceptable tactic and I supose zerker-surgeons are allowed to retain certain inteligence (but, if you read the recent Kharn tale from the WD you'll realize GW is approaching the WE as marines that still can work, talk and plan strategies, as simple as they can be)

It needs to be mentioned that the nails described in Betrayer are the nails that Angron has which are Nucerian archeotech. They were *impossible* to duplicate and behave differently from the Nails that the rest of the World Eaters legion has, which are an entirely different and simpler technology that produces similar but less extreme results to the nails Angron had.

Garrac wrote:
From B&Ch
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Looks like maybe we'll get the codex this year! (A very big grain of salt is required here)

Not really. The preview show article heavily implied (to just short of stating outright) a matter of months. It was worded much the same way as the initial Votann article.
I'm actually less convinced guard is coming between the two, but sure, that might happen.


Old genestealers with an upgrade sprue as half the KT release sounds bad. Or simply disappointing.
And annoying for invalidating the codex datasheet so soon.

I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.

 Sasori wrote:
I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.

GW struggles with what to do with some armies, and as daemons are fundamentally broken (with how they interact with detachments and army building) its no surprise that they're at the back. The leak rumors for daemons rather reinforce this idea. That's a lot of stray spaghetti stuck to the walls.

 Sasori wrote:
I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.

Daemons had a 47% WR this past weekend and are certainly not bottom barrel.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.

Daemons had a 47% WR this past weekend and are certainly not bottom barrel.

Do you know specifically which god(s) we're represented?

Something of note, due to there not being any Renegade rules in the CSM codex, some Crimson Slaughter fans are thinking of using the upcoming World Eaters codex to play their armies.

 Dysartes wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
...Because one need not travel beyond the worship of Khorne to find true gems! Imagine Murderfang squaring off against a mighty Khorgorath:

Spoiler:

I wouldn't be against that being in the WE line-up, alongside the Slaughterbrute

Just one problem. It's only available in sprue with aos khorne infantry.



Grumble grumble. Want like 8. But 8 sc is lot.

Why do they think they need 10th edition? Just patch the morale phase and the codexes. Release another limited box that's blood angels vs. Nids if you want.

Hecaton wrote:
Why do they think they need 10th edition? Just patch the morale phase and the codexes. Release another limited box that's blood angels vs. Nids if you want.

I'm rapidly approaching the 'screw new editions' camp. With all the dataslates and quarterly updates, they're about this close to living rulebook.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I'd like to see the return of Juggernauts, both as a Character mount and as a unit.

Skullcrushers but with CSM riders would be pretty dam badass.

I made some a while ago. Love them.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
I almost want to think Daemons could be next. They got no dataslate update, which seems like it would be very odd if they were not soon with how bad they are struggling.

Daemons had a 47% WR this past weekend and are certainly not bottom barrel.

Daemons had a 47% WR [with specific army lists] this past weekend [at tournaments] and are certainly not bottom barrel [with a handful of lists, during one weekend, at tournaments which reported stats, in a manner giving immense skew towards 50%].

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That seems pretty plausible to me, GW likes having demonic models do double-duty, and these Chaos monsters could be explained as fighting beasts from the mortal combat arenas of whatever incarnadine world Berzerkers hail from.

I would rather they keep the. Odels seperatfrom age of sigmar and 40k they look daft mutilith Vortex beast really has nothing to do with 40k.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Daemons had a 47% WR this past weekend and are certainly not bottom barrel.

Daemons had a 47% WR [with specific army lists] this past weekend [at tournaments] and are certainly not bottom barrel [with a handful of lists, during one weekend, at tournaments which reported stats, in a manner giving immense skew towards 50%].

Nah man, it's cool. D says they're doing well at tournaments, and as that's literally the only measure we have for anything related to 40k (and certainly the only one that matters!), I guess this means Daemons are A-OK!

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Only exists as part of a multi-sprue at the moment so I wouldn't have my fingers crossed.

It would be a great chance to change this though. Release a multipart Khorgorath and sell it to 40K and AoS players alike, win-win really.

Boosykes wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That seems pretty plausible to me, GW likes having demonic models do double-duty, and these Chaos monsters could be explained as fighting beasts from the mortal combat arenas of whatever incarnadine world Berzerkers hail from.

I would rather they keep the. Odels seperatfrom age of sigmar and 40k they look daft mutilith Vortex beast really has nothing to do with 40k.

Well, that ship is already sailed, didn't they add the MVB to the Thousand Sons book a few years back?

And it'd be great to have the other half of that kit - the Slaughterbrute - as part of the WE book.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

Boosykes wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That seems pretty plausible to me, GW likes having demonic models do double-duty, and these Chaos monsters could be explained as fighting beasts from the mortal combat arenas of whatever incarnadine world Berzerkers hail from.

I would rather they keep the. Odels seperatfrom age of sigmar and 40k they look daft mutilith Vortex beast really has nothing to do with 40k.

Well, that ship is already sailed, didn't they add the MVB to the Thousand Sons book a few years back?

Not to mention the Tzaangors (though with an add-on sprue) as part of the same launch.