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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

Hecaton wrote:
The advanced rules don't state that, however. Occam's razor is that whoever wrote the faq misread the core rulebook.
Or they read it, realized there may be a loophole, and closed any possibility of it.

"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.

I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!

We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




So the end result is that Hecaton is thinking this is a double mistake by GW, one undetected all this time?
   
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Confessor Of Sins





Tacoma, WA, USA

 DeathReaper wrote:
Hecaton wrote:
The advanced rules don't state that, however. Occam's razor is that whoever wrote the faq misread the core rulebook.
Or they read it, realized there may be a loophole, and closed any possibility of it.
Or that is what the rule is supposed to say, but in typical GW fashion it is too muddled to easily get across the desired point.

Doesn't really matter. The FAQ tells you what the rule is supposed to say. It is correct because GW said so. You can't argue with the rules writers on their intent when they tell you what it is.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




 alextroy wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
Hecaton wrote:
The advanced rules don't state that, however. Occam's razor is that whoever wrote the faq misread the core rulebook.
Or they read it, realized there may be a loophole, and closed any possibility of it.
Or that is what the rule is supposed to say, but in typical GW fashion it is too muddled to easily get across the desired point.

Doesn't really matter. The FAQ tells you what the rule is supposed to say. It is correct because GW said so. You can't argue with the rules writers on their intent when they tell you what it is.


When it's blatantly wrong you can.


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nosferatu1001 wrote:
So the end result is that Hecaton is thinking this is a double mistake by GW, one undetected all this time?


Is that far-fetched for GW?

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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

Hecaton wrote:
 alextroy wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
Hecaton wrote:
The advanced rules don't state that, however. Occam's razor is that whoever wrote the faq misread the core rulebook.
Or they read it, realized there may be a loophole, and closed any possibility of it.
Or that is what the rule is supposed to say, but in typical GW fashion it is too muddled to easily get across the desired point.

Doesn't really matter. The FAQ tells you what the rule is supposed to say. It is correct because GW said so. You can't argue with the rules writers on their intent when they tell you what it is.


When it's blatantly wrong you can.
The rules they printed are "blatantly wrong"??? Really?

"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.

I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!

We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




 DeathReaper wrote:
Hecaton wrote:
 alextroy wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
Hecaton wrote:
The advanced rules don't state that, however. Occam's razor is that whoever wrote the faq misread the core rulebook.
Or they read it, realized there may be a loophole, and closed any possibility of it.
Or that is what the rule is supposed to say, but in typical GW fashion it is too muddled to easily get across the desired point.

Doesn't really matter. The FAQ tells you what the rule is supposed to say. It is correct because GW said so. You can't argue with the rules writers on their intent when they tell you what it is.


When it's blatantly wrong you can.
The rules they printed are "blatantly wrong"??? Really?


Yup.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




In your opinion.
   
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

Hecaton wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
Spoiler:
Hecaton wrote:
 alextroy wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
Hecaton wrote:
The advanced rules don't state that, however. Occam's razor is that whoever wrote the faq misread the core rulebook.
Or they read it, realized there may be a loophole, and closed any possibility of it.
Or that is what the rule is supposed to say, but in typical GW fashion it is too muddled to easily get across the desired point.

Doesn't really matter. The FAQ tells you what the rule is supposed to say. It is correct because GW said so. You can't argue with the rules writers on their intent when they tell you what it is.


When it's blatantly wrong you can.
The rules they printed are "blatantly wrong"??? Really?


Yup.
Well, your statement is clearly incorrect then, because you say The rules they printed are "blatantly wrong", but GW printed the rules and they literally wrote the rules, your opinion means nothing.

"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.

I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!

We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




 DeathReaper wrote:

Well, your statement is clearly incorrect then, because you say The rules they printed are "blatantly wrong", but GW printed the rules and they literally wrote the rules, your opinion means nothing.


When we're assessing the competence of GW rules, it means quite a bit.
   
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

Hecaton wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:

Well, your statement is clearly incorrect then, because you say The rules they printed are "blatantly wrong", but GW printed the rules and they literally wrote the rules, your opinion means nothing.


When we're assessing the competence of GW rules, it means quite a bit.
It really does not.

Your opinion on what the rules should say has no bearing in a RAW forum.

"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.

I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!

We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
 
   
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Been Around the Block





United Kingdom

Does this mean the imperial knight oath Defend the Realm, honoured's ability of granting an additional 1CP in your command phase prevent you from also gaining one from the warlord trait Cunning commander (on a succesfull roll)?

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




Yep, you've gained your one for the battleground.
   
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Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Yep, you've gained your one for the battleground.


Wrong. Defend the realm extends the battleforged CP bonus, the battleforged CP bonus is exempted from the 1CP per battle round limit. A knight player can get 3CP per battleround from duty and wisdom and cunning commander.



Battle-forged CP Bonus: In this mission, at the start of each player’s Command phase, both players gain 1CP, not just the player whose turn it is. These CPs are Battle-forged CP bonuses, and so the limit of gaining a maximum of 1CP per turn does not apply to CPs gained as a result of this rule.


Duty and Wisdom: At the start of your Command phase, the Battle-forged CP bonus grants you 1 additional Command point (this will typically mean you gain 2 CPs, instead of 1).


CUNNING COMMANDER
At the start of your Command phase, if this WARLORD is on the battlefield, roll one D6: on a 5+, you gain 1 Command point.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




Apologies, forgot it was a bonus to the bf bonus cp
   
 
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