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Putting on my Farseer hat

Damn near certain

New Bezerkers 8 to a box
Khorne Terminators
New Kharn
New Khorne HQ model
A dude with like a really, really big axe, like think of what you consider a really big axe, now double that, now triple that, that's how big this axe is going to be.

Possible

Some kind of lawnmower/close combat dread/daemon engine (Blood Slaughterer?)
Indiscriminate shooting tank (Cannon of Khorne?)
Juggernaut/Bloodcrusher cavalry ("Bloodcrusher" is still one of the dumbest names GW has come up with, how do you crush blood? )
Specialists - Evil Medic, Evil Chaplain, Evil non-Psyker
Assassin (Khorne as the god of murder)
Cultists/mutants/beastmen
Fast transport

Unlikely

Sorcerers
Diplomats
Unicorns
Bunnies
Price breaks

I doubt we'll get a new Kharn. We've already got him in plastic.

Love it. Was afraid they'd go in a much more detail-heavy direction, so this is a massive relief and I'm much more excited to see the rest of the range now

I prefer the more triangular mouth grill/vader mask look, it's more aggressive. But this looks fine, they didn't go overboard with it which is nice. And now that they are getting these out of the way it means redone noise marines are a bit closer.

nekooni wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Not exactly pushing the envelope with this, are they

Why would they have to "push the envelope" when redoing a unit? They're very obviously Berzerkers updated to the new CSM base model, and that's exactly what they should be.

To make them vaguely interesting or appealing to buy. These just look like the new chaos space marines painted red, they're very dull. The old ones had things like extra chains on their torsos and legs. Boring.

 Dysartes wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
He looks like he's ready to dish out a good 'ol fashioned spank'in.

I'm pretty sure that's more of an Emperor's Children thing...

Is that all you think about!

I'm talking about a damn good hiding! Minder? The Sweeney? No? Gordon Bennett!

H.B.M.C. wrote:I doubt we'll get a new Kharn. We've already got him in plastic.

Aye, I'm with H.B.M.C on this one. Plastic Kharn is somewhere between 2 and 4 years old at this point, and there's no need to redo him yet.

I do wonder why the Kid is listing the Master of Executions as his fifth entry in the "Damn near certain" column for new releases, when the dude has been around for a while...

I'd actually totally forgotten there was already a new Kharn.

Guess I had my Farseer hat on backwards.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Putting on my Farseer hat

Damn near certain

New Bezerkers 8 to a box
Khorne Terminators
New Kharn
New Khorne HQ model
A dude with like a really, really big axe, like think of what you consider a really big axe, now double that, now triple that, that's how big this axe is going to be.

Possible

Some kind of lawnmower/close combat dread/daemon engine (Blood Slaughterer?)
Indiscriminate shooting tank (Cannon of Khorne?)
Juggernaut/Bloodcrusher cavalry ("Bloodcrusher" is still one of the dumbest names GW has come up with, how do you crush blood? )
Specialists - Evil Medic, Evil Chaplain, Evil non-Psyker
Assassin (Khorne as the god of murder)
Cultists/mutants/beastmen
Fast transport

Unlikely

Sorcerers
Diplomats
Unicorns
Bunnies
Price breaks

We already know with 99% certainty that there's no Juggernaut unit from the confirmed leaker on Reddit.

He's mentioned:
• Some sort of Khornegor/ dog-headed mortal unit
• A named Brazen Beasts/Dark Mechanicum special character on a flying Juggernaut (the only Juggernaut in the dex)
• Some sort of unit of 8 marines possessed by Bloodletters

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Juggernaut/Bloodcrusher cavalry ("Bloodcrusher" is still one of the dumbest names GW has come up with, how do you crush blood? )

Repeatedly and with growing anger? It may not achieve anything but seems quite in the spirit of Khorne's single-mindedness.

Billicus wrote:

nekooni wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Not exactly pushing the envelope with this, are they

Why would they have to "push the envelope" when redoing a unit? They're very obviously Berzerkers updated to the new CSM base model, and that's exactly what they should be.

To make them vaguely interesting or appealing to buy. These just look like the new chaos space marines painted red, they're very dull. The old ones had things like extra chains on their torsos and legs. Boring.

It's only one model for now. We may yet see different varieties of torsos and legs, and since this model establishes that they are going with the chain aesthetic that may include chained torsos, legs and arms. It's a bit premature to write them off like that.

It is very clean though- angry red marine..Its a nice sculpt but its a shame they haven't brought in a sense of corruption. The early Chaos marines were very strange, their armour corrupted by chaos [Realm of Chaos era]. This guy looks like he just takes his helmet off after a hard day battling and has a nice cup of coffee before cleaning the gore off his armour.
They are probably keeping the more out there elements to elites or those possessed marines mentioned. The dog headed mortals sound great though.

 Dysartes wrote:
Plastic Kharn is somewhere between 2 and 4 years old at this point

Plastic Kharn was released in 2016. He's 6 now.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Plastic Kharn is somewhere between 2 and 4 years old at this point

Plastic Kharn was released in 2016. He's 6 now.

I see the COVID stopwatch strikes again xD

They could make a Kytan.

 Geifer wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Juggernaut/Bloodcrusher cavalry ("Bloodcrusher" is still one of the dumbest names GW has come up with, how do you crush blood? )

Repeatedly and with growing anger? It may not achieve anything but seems quite in the spirit of Khorne's single-mindedness.

Billicus wrote:

nekooni wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Not exactly pushing the envelope with this, are they

Why would they have to "push the envelope" when redoing a unit? They're very obviously Berzerkers updated to the new CSM base model, and that's exactly what they should be.

To make them vaguely interesting or appealing to buy. These just look like the new chaos space marines painted red, they're very dull. The old ones had things like extra chains on their torsos and legs. Boring.

It's only one model for now. We may yet see different varieties of torsos and legs, and since this model establishes that they are going with the chain aesthetic that may include chained torsos, legs and arms. It's a bit premature to write them off like that.

I'm not writing anything off, I'm saying this model doesn't really push the envelope and, by inference, arguing that new miniature releases pushing the envelope instead of just retreading is a good thing

Im pretty sure they will include the lord of skulls in the codex.

A stroke of genius would be to release a drop pod variant, but I know it sounds really far-fetched after all these years.

Voss wrote:

nekooni wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
So what else will be in the Codex...beside the new Berzerker?

7 more berzerkers hopefully

9, hopefully. I don't want to see an 8 model unit sold at 10 model prices.

Box comes with 8. The remaining 2 will be sold for half price of the main box like they have done with the plague marines.

I'm really glad they didn't make him look stupidly busy, and instead went for a more clean, but still visibly distinct look.

Not enough chains?? hes got chains on its left arm, on its lion cloth an on its richt hip and on its chainaxe, how manny more chains do you need.

Funny how the Khorne Article in the WD put a heavy empathis on how World Eaters have issues maintaining their gear and tend to use older gear that is in bad maintenance. Meanwhile we see here a new sculpt that is so clean and spanking fresh. No battle damage or similar. I am also not quite a fan of the mix of a fresh looking armor and the oldschool box design plasma pistol. It is just a weird mix.

charles_the_dead_lizzard wrote:
Funny how the Khorne Article in the WD put a heavy empathis on how World Eaters have issues maintaining their gear and tend to use older gear that is in bad maintenance. Meanwhile we see here a new sculpt that is so clean and spanking fresh. No battle damage or similar. I am also not quite a fan of the mix of a fresh looking armor and the oldschool box design plasma pistol. It is just a weird mix.

I'd rather NOT have battle damages presculpted on my minies tbh, that's something you can easily do yourself but will have a hard time undoing.
Honestly I really think the problem here is how ... bland the painjob is.

That guy should have had a lot of weathering, scratching and battle damage painted on, but instead it's the most squeaky clean painjob ever and it do really drag down the look of the mini overall.

What I'd like to see how is all the helmet variants. I do like the one we see here, but I hope we'll get 10+ unique variants in the box, and hopefully some that are a bit more FW looking in the bunch.

I absolutely love it.

I like how it is not encrusted with detail. I admit that I get carried away when sculpting and converting and add lots of stuff, but the rather toned down armour makes him look more imposing than the regular CSM with all their trims and bits - and way, WAY better than the literally edgelord AOS/Endtimes Khorne models with ugly decorations on every surface.

Looks fantastic, not a departure from the original, more a better version of it.

Glad that GW showed restraint and didn't slap on everything but the kitchen sink as they seem to do nowadays. Here's hoping that we get a new Bezerker line that matches this aesthetic.

Really like the broken chain detail.

I wouldn’t mind if there was an option for a bare arm here and there for that retro feel but doubt there will be. As is I really like it. Simple and classic. Nothing to much going on.

A bare arm conversion is easy enough to pull off.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
A bare arm conversion is easy enough to pull off.

True, getting the scale right is trickier, some good suitable arms in the AOS line. You’ve got me thinking now.

We’ve seen 1 out of 8 (or 10). I wouldn’t be surprised if there is the odd bare arm. Khârn has one after all.

It looks a bit plain to me, but still very good. I was hoping for more corruption like what is seen in AoS Khorne models. Also, this is only one model in an entire kit.

One thing no one has considered is that the WE army might get an elite unit (like Chosen Berserker equivalents) whose models will be much more overboard with the details.

 ImAGeek wrote:
We’ve seen 1 out of 8 (or 10). I wouldn’t be surprised if there is the odd bare arm. Khârn has one after all.

You won't get 10 in the box. 8 is Khorne's number so that is what you will get. You will pay the same price as a 10 model set though.

I really liked the forgeworld berserker upgrade sets. I built a whole 4000 point army for a friend years ago. Tons of zerkers, kharbanda, rhino and land raider door and front plate upgrades. It was a great looking army. The only problem is he used the 'GW handflamer' airbrush along with Mechrite red to base coat the army. Lots of curse words later I had them cleaned off, reprimed and basecoated properly for him.

The only nicer chaos army he had was Deathguard. Those FW upgrade kits were bloody aces back then.

I kinda like the model but the paint job isn't helping. Some more weathering and maybe some blue and white peaking through the red would look great as the red isn't suppose to be paint but blood splattered on their armour after a millennium of fighting for the gods. At least its not covered in trim like the Trim Legions armour is.