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Damn those look great, very intimidating.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
My Word Bearers project is on hold until the MkVI accessories come out, where I'll then decide which armor mark I want to take.

I'm in the same boat and playing with a painfully unbalanced list. We couldn't be last... could we?

In the mean time, I'm painting all my characters, such as Lorgar himself.

Working on Word Bearers have a Spartan and a Land Raider Phobos to paint want to get the Land Raider Proteus,Leviathan Dreadnought and a Kratos..

Then Gal Vorbak and I think I'll be done not a fan of Lorgar as he is at the moment if they drop a "Ascended" version I'll be interested but if not I'll grab the one from Etsy..

Made big progress with two whirlwinds; am chuffed.



Can't decide on which legion to paint the other two - part of me wants to make do world eaters and death guard again so i have them as two pairs when i want to play small elements of those legions on Isstvan 3.

I'm torn because they are also Ordo Reductor Artillery Tanks and i like the idea of having the other two as ultramarine and dark angel paint because my guys go around confiscating them for use as a direct-fire front line unit

I like the thematic element that WE war doctrine would say they would fire the missiles till out of ammo and then abandon the vehicle which my guys then find.
Calleb Decima has a bit of fluff about finding loyalist DG so again, nicely thematic for my guys to find them in the storms on Isstvan 3 and team up.

HOWEVER
The old skool ultramarine livery off the orignal box is just so classic, not just on the front of the box, but also in the battle report titled 'HERETIC!' in white dwarf issue 187.

What do?

Current EC(seige of terra)

I'm working on Sons of Horus. These were initially just test models but now I have several units of them and some vehicles.

Coming along nicely

Well I started work on the the spartan (a right prick to assemble) and two contemptors but then found out rather out of the blue, that we'll be moving in a little under two weeks.
So now there's a mad rush to pack everything up which means absolutely zero hobby for me for the immediate future.

Been a busy buildy boy this week.

To date, I’ve built….

Two twenty strong Tactical Squads. One with Bayonets, the other with Chain Bayonets

One ten strong Autocannon Support unit (read your instructions. Two slightly different sculpts of said Autocannon!)

One ten strong Missile Launcher Squad

Two Deimos Rhinos (with Multi-Meltas, because of course you would)

One Predator, all Volkite because choooooompewzapfryded

Two Contemptors (Lascannon/Fist, Volkite/Autocannon

One Leviathan (dual Siege Claws)

One Spartan

Two Praetors, as they come from the big box.

One Kratos (all Volkite. I bloody love Volkite)

Still to go?

40 more MkVI. Got a decent selection of weapons to arm them with. Almost certainly doing two units of 10 with Volkite Culverin and Lascannons. I may do a third Tactical Squad, but also have a set of Special Weapons, so I’ll see where the mood takes me.

1 more Contemptor. Again haven’t decided what to arm it with.

1 set of ranged weapons for the Leviathan.

1 more Spartan

20 Cataphractii

3 Support Predators

1 more Rhino.

Absolutely loving the kits. I’d run out of Citadel Plastic Glue, so a friend donated Tamiya stuff. I’m concerted. That brush is ideal for fiddly bits, and near ideal for the two part pads on MkVI.

Tomorrow I think I’ll get the Predators built. May include one Neutron Cannon thing.


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 Snrub wrote:
Well I started work on the the spartan (a right prick to assemble) and two contemptors but then found out rather out of the blue, that we'll be moving in a little under two weeks.
So now there's a mad rush to pack everything up which means absolutely zero hobby for me for the immediate future.

As someone who also moved this year? Keep All Your Kits And Tools And Glues And Gubbins Together!

Single box. Trust me. It’ll save you spending “fun” hours playing “Where the bloody hell did I put that?”. And finish anything you started building, because I can absolutely guarantee the Stuff Goblins will spirit away an essential, irreplaceable part. Mostly out of spite.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
1 more Contemptor. Again haven’t decided what to arm it with.

Twin volkite or twin plasma cannons. You know it's the path to true tabletop happiness.

It’ll save you spending “fun” hours playing “Where the bloody hell did I put that?”.

I play that game on a daily basis with how messy my desk is. But that is a good idea though, I'm leaving my hobby stuff till last as it just gets a mite overwhelming looking at it all.

I can absolutely guarantee the Stuff Goblins will spirit away an essential, irreplaceable part. Mostly out of spite.

I've got one of those things! It's called an 18 month old. Into absofethinglutely everything.

Oh a toddler and Stuff Goblins?

You’re doomed!

Though to be fair, I’d hired a moving team to also pack my gubbins. With hindsight, that was a good idea, but I should’ve done my Hobby Equipment, and labelled the box Hobby!


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Another Deimos Predator built, this one with Neutron Blaster and Lascannons.

Next up I fancy a racy little number, in the form of an all Flamer Predator. Spesh if I can give it a pintle mounted Heavy Flamer for extra toastiness.

Sod it, group shot time!

Almost dinner time. Might squeeze in another Support Predator.

Always so exciting seeing it all ready for paint 😍

I’m really liking the look of the force. And I’m pretty sure I am going to paint it. In due course.

Going Dark Angels so it won’t be the mammoth task some might think 🤣🤣


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Of particular satisfaction here is that without breaking the bank (everything bought at a significant, legal, discount) I’ve wound up with a pretty decent choice in how to run my army.

With a second Spartan awaiting construction, I can run a fully mechanised force. Or, I can do Iron Wing, filling compulsory Troops each with a brace of Predators, fleshing out with the Spartans and Kratos.

Still unsure if I want to keep the 20 Cataphractii though.


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Aaaaaand third Contemptor built. Went for Assault Cannon and Chainfist (with a built in Meltagun for short ranged lols)

Nice to have a full talon, to have a full talon? Nice.

Tempted to double up the Dreadnought pool with a view to a possible Fury of the Ancients list. I hear Dreadnoughts struggle a bit in 2nd Ed, but they look cool and that’s the main thing! Also it means I don’t feel like a power gaming dick for playing lots and lots and lots and lots of Dreadnoughts, now they’re vulnerable to Bolter fire.

Lawks I’ve been a busy boy again!

Add one Spartan and one Plasma Predator.

By the end of this week, I fully expect to have my remaining MkVI units built, and to have decided whether I’m gonna keep the Cataphractii.

Blasphemy!!!

Why would you NOT be keep them?!?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Lawks I’ve been a busy boy again!

Can you put up some better photos?

Jesus Doc, slow down and let the rest of us catch up!
That's quite the armoured force you're amassing. Wasn't a massive fan of the Kratos at first, but the more I see them built but unpainted, the more I find myself liking them.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Tempted to double up the Dreadnought pool with a view to a possible Fury of the Ancients list. I hear Dreadnoughts struggle a bit in 2nd Ed, but they look cool and that’s the main thing! Also it means I don’t feel like a power gaming dick for playing lots and lots and lots and lots of Dreadnoughts, now they’re vulnerable to Bolter fire.

Where did you hear that load of bollocks!? Dreadnoughts are the premier unit in Heresy at the moment. They're undercosted, and plenty shooty/stabby and thanks to being turned into MC's, quite hard to put down by conventional anti-armour means. They certainly aren't vulnerable to bolters!
You want to have a word with whoever fed you that tosh.




Despite being in full pack mode, I manged to get a sneaky bit of hobby time in yesterday. Started converting the AoD axe praetor into my version of Farith Redloss. Removed all the fancy chest bits and did a little bit of greenstuffing. That'll be the last of it though for at least a week until I get my new hobby room set up.

 Snord wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Lawks I’ve been a busy boy again!

Can you put up some better photos?

Not with my talent, no

I will take some more, but genuinely make no promise on quality beyond them being in-focus and not blurred!


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On Dreads being a bit ropey? I understand it’s the myriad HTH units with high Initiative, Rend and/or Murderous Strike.

Get them stuck into regular infantry and they’ll be in their element though,

Piccies. No idea why they’re coming out sideways.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On Dreads being a bit ropey? I understand it’s the myriad HTH units with high Initiative, Rend and/or Murderous Strike.

Gonna have to call phooey on that too.
I don't have the Mechanicum or Imperium book, so I can't speak for the units contained therein, but of the standard astartes units only Preators and Centurions have a higher Initiative than 4. Every Character I could see had an Initiative of 5 and only two (Lucius & Sevetar) had 6. Out of the Legion specific units, only the Enigmatus Cabal of the 1st and Mhara Gal, Gal Vorbak and Blade Slaves of the 17th had an Initiative of 5.
The only astartes units who have an Initiative of 6 or higher (barring Lucius & Sev) are the Primarchs. But those are a whole different ball game.

Rend as a special rule for melee is far from common, being limited to Power/Force Swords, Lightning Claws (All of which are 6+) and a smattering of Legion specific gear.

Murderous Strike is rarer again. Only 2 standard melee weapons have it, Paragon Blades and the contemptors own chainfist, plus again, a hand full of Legion specific gear. As far as I know (I'm not as well versed with the traitor units wargear) the only squad in the game that can have unit wide Murderous Strike weapons are the 1st Legions Knights Cenobium.


There just aren't a lot of units who can readily go toe to toe with a melee equipped contemptor without being super expensive (lightning claw vets), only having a minimum of guys (terminators) or a character who needs protecting by a unit (normally one of the aforementioned).
And i've yet to see anyone say that playing against Fury of the Ancients was an afternoon well spent.


EDIT- Sorry Doc, I just reread this and realised I come off sounding a bit aggressive. I didn't intend to sound like I was jumping down your throat there. Just trying to convey that there's not a lot of high I, damage + melee units getting around.

Hey no worries dude! You’re attacking the info not the poster

Polished off two Land Raiders for the Thousand Sons of Tizca this weekend:

Oooh, very nice!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Piccies. No idea why they’re coming out sideways.

Thanks for the additional photos. From the way your Predators are armed, it looks as though your focus is having cool toys and not maximising effectiveness. Apart from the Dreads...

All looking really cool!

 Snord wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Piccies. No idea why they’re coming out sideways.

Thanks for the additional photos. From the way your Predators are armed, it looks as though your focus is having cool toys and not maximising effectiveness. Apart from the Dreads...

Mostly focussing on anything distinctively Heresy.

Dreads are just the guns I liked the look of. But I did magnetise the Leviathan, who has two Siege Claws not pictured.

Oi mad doc, seems like you need to get another tank

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/15/heresy-thursday-turn-astartes-tanks-and-buildings-into-craters-with-the-typhon-heavy-siege-tank/

Three. I’m getting three.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Three. I’m getting three.

This is how you loose a war don't bother with logistics, let's turn the battle into a dick measuring contest .