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Well, it's sort of a weird one because I was actually misremembering but it's understandable when I explain.
So there are two Space Marine groups called the Knights of Blood, one Imperial, and one Chaos. The former was known to be a small Chapter of renegades who still fought for the Imperium but sated the Red Thirst far more often than any other of the 9th Legion's lineage. They were outcast by the Blood Angels but returned to fight for them during the Devastation of Baal where they were wiped out by Ka'Bandha on Baal Primus, a last stand witnessed by the Flesh Tearers.
The latter actually appeared first in the 4th Ed CSM Codex and looked like this:
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They aren't explicitly named as a Khornate warband but the colour combo alongside the Khorne Juggernaught warband emblem doesn't really leave much room for interpretation. They're known for conducting massacres of the worlds they invade, with their most famous being the invasion of Ornsworld where they wiped out 90% of the population.
I thought there might have been some background where it explained these two groups were once the same but I clearly misremembered that.

But yes, when it comes to Astartes being truly incorruptible by the powers of Chaos i.e. not being able to make the choice to serve Chaos, only the Grey Knights are in this category. Grey Knights can still be affected by sorcery and magic though but it's not the same thing.

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So veey tempted to do 'corrupted' flesh tearers using the chaos/loyalist sprue kitbash.

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 Wyldhunt wrote:
Don't the Blood Drinkers use a trick they learned from a daemon to stave off the Black Rage? That's pretty corrupt even if they're still loyalists.




Their Chapter Master(?) and retinue were attacked by a Monster Daemon, but he was saved by a angelic winged figure who taught him a secret Blood ritual, which involves bleeding their serfs and sacrificing one of them.
   
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It's not that they are incorruptable. But it wouldn't be the red thirst or black rage that did it.

It would be alot more boring than that I'm afraid.

In Devistation of Baal, they talk about why Khorn will never have them. Their rage, although rivals that of the world eaters, is a righteous rage. It is rage in face of the imperium and the emporer. Even the black rage is them fighting Horus to save the emporer. This is the difference it is a "just" rage.

So yes they can fall to chaos. But they would fall for temptation not for rage. When Sanguinius got to that line in Ruinstorm. It wasn't the red thirst or the rage that nearly made him choose poorly. But his pride, and his ignorance. He almost chose to take place ahead of his father the emporer. He believed he could be the savour of the imperium, he could say no to his fate. If he had said no his fate he could, the demon made that perfectly clear, he could have lived and destroyed Horus. But he would more or less have taken his place.

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There is a Possessed Blood Angel in one of the rulebook short stories. The Red Angel - not Angron - is another example.
   
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Wrath of the Lost also features traitor Blood Angels (or Flesh Tearers)

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It's worth noting the Lion book just come out features some chaos blood angels.

So as stated before there is the odd few that cna turn. They are not incorruptable. It's just they don't have aas many as it's hard to turn to chaos when your mind falls to black rage first.

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Since I logged in anyway, OP- when a BA is berserkgangr, it's an anti Chaos rage.

A fallen BA would need to fall while still never succumbing to the Black Rage. Or have the Rage lifted.

Personally, I've always favored the speculative idea that BAs live in the Khaine space between Khorne and Slaanesh. They suffer from perfect, sublime rage, as Khaine embodied martial perfection. Signus seems to back this.

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Bloodquest. If somebody claims ba never falls to chaos just shows they haven't read fluff.

Or are on biased anti-ba rant ignoring facts.

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I've been wondering for a while which chapters have the most marines fall to Chaos. I'm not well read enough to know, but I don't think I heard of a Space Wolf converting to Chaos.
   
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 NorthernXY wrote:
I've been wondering for a while which chapters have the most marines fall to Chaos. I'm not well read enough to know, but I don't think I heard of a Space Wolf converting to Chaos.


Here you go: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skyrar%27s_Dark_Wolves

Memory is fuzzy, but I *think* the 13th great company was also hinted at being chaos-y at one point?

If you count legions, it's probably one of the original traitor legions as that's essentially a bunch of entire chapters' worth of marines falling in one go. If you only count chapters but include HH history, probably Dark Angels with their ~50% fall rate. After that, I imagine it's probably one of the various chapters who turned traitor more or less all at once. After that, who can say? Maybe the Badb War factions? Any chapter that makes a habit of losing big chunks of its membership to chaos probably catches inquisitorial attention and is prevented from making that mistake again. But a small, slow trickle of chapter members turning traitor would take forever to compare to one of the chapters that turned traitor all at once. So I feel like the answer has to be one of the chapters/legions that went rogue in one fell swoop while still having a relatively high number of living members.


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There is one case of a lone 10k Son Librarian failing to fall to chaos during the Prospero incident, and he was subsequently made one of the First Grey Knights. Kaldor Draigo.
   
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 NorthernXY wrote:
I've been wondering for a while which chapters have the most marines fall to Chaos. I'm not well read enough to know, but I don't think I heard of a Space Wolf converting to Chaos.

Couldn't possibly begin to help with that first bit however, for Wolves turning traitor or falling to Chaos we have:
Skyrar's Dark Wolves - A Warband highly suspected to be formed from renegade Space Wolves, though none within the Imperium would dare suggest it.
Red Corsairs - The Corsairs seized the vessel Wolf of Fenris and many of its former crew cast their lots in with Huron Blackheart to survive his assault. These Astartes were later given command of the Wolf of Fenris and renamed themselves the Red Wolves (not to be confused with the Imperial Chapter of the same name).
Blood Wolves - A renegade Warband of Khorne Space Wolves led by Svan Wulfbad who were hunted by Harald Deathwolf.

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
There is one case of a lone 10k Son Librarian failing to fall to chaos during the Prospero incident, and he was subsequently made one of the First Grey Knights. Kaldor Draigo.

No, just no.
The Thousand Son who would become one of the first Grey Knights was Revuel Arvida, who was fused with a shard of Magnus' soul to become Janus, the first Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights. He was a Loyalist who served with the White Scars after they discovered him in the ruins of Prospero when the Khan went searching for Magnus after the planet was razed by the Wolves.
Kaldor Draigo was the 48th and didn't attain that rank until 901.M41.

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 Wyldhunt wrote:
 NorthernXY wrote:
I've been wondering for a while which chapters have the most marines fall to Chaos. I'm not well read enough to know, but I don't think I heard of a Space Wolf converting to Chaos.


Here you go: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skyrar%27s_Dark_Wolves

Memory is fuzzy, but I *think* the 13th great company was also hinted at being chaos-y at one point?

If you count legions, it's probably one of the original traitor legions as that's essentially a bunch of entire chapters' worth of marines falling in one go. If you only count chapters but include HH history, probably Dark Angels with their ~50% fall rate. After that, I imagine it's probably one of the various chapters who turned traitor more or less all at once. After that, who can say? Maybe the Badb War factions? Any chapter that makes a habit of losing big chunks of its membership to chaos probably catches inquisitorial attention and is prevented from making that mistake again. But a small, slow trickle of chapter members turning traitor would take forever to compare to one of the chapters that turned traitor all at once. So I feel like the answer has to be one of the chapters/legions that went rogue in one fell swoop while still having a relatively high number of living members.


Well, that sucks. I prefer the dark grey and red color scheme of the Dark Wolves to the light blue of the Space Wolves. Strange that the dark grey and red color scheme was the Space Wolves' colors in 30k. The Lexi is wrong, it says the SW color is grey. There is no way this is considered grey.

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This is.

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Ah see but it is grey, it's Space Wolves Grey.
   
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 Gert wrote:
Ah see but it is grey, it's Space Wolves Grey.


I don't think it works like that. I grew up working in a silkscreen and embroidery shop, so I've been around lots of colors. I don't think the customer would be happy if they ordered red shirts and we made them NorthernXY red shirts, which is closer to green.
   
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No seriously that's what the paint is called.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Wolves-Grey-2019
   
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I know they call it SW Grey, but if you take the label off and ask a normal person what color it is they'd say a shade of blue. That was the point of my anecdote. Just because you call something a thing, doesn't make it so.

If a zoo had an exhibit that was just a house cat but they called it a tiger wouldn't make it a tiger.
   
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 NorthernXY wrote:
I know they call it SW Grey, but if you take the label off and ask a normal person what color it is they'd say a shade of blue. That was the point of my anecdote. Just because you call something a thing, doesn't make it so.

If a zoo had an exhibit that was just a house cat but they called it a tiger wouldn't make it a tiger.


I would call it a blue-gray.
   
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