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Made in gb
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Sign ups so far are:

Disciples of Tzeentch.
Stormcast Eternals x2
Seraphon
Khorne
Fyreslayers
Ironjawz.
Slaanesh.
Nurgle (me)

Any thoughts on the field?
   
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos





It depends on the lists that those people are taking. Some of them could take filth lists with those races, or they could tone down like they are being asked to do (which in my experience is a 50/50 coin toss of it actually happening)

GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord






Seraphon, Fyreslayers, and Slaanesh stand out as potentially major threats. The Slaanesh player needs only take a KoS as his champion and he'll have won the league. Seraphon with a Slaan will have nightmarish levels of summoning, while Fyreslayers get magmadroths as follower options so yeeeah... All of those could also have very reasonable results but they could easily wind up with something really OP without trying to.

I would with with a GUO for sure, with an LoA and 3x nurglings. The nurglings are to deploy into your enemy's territory to generate more contagion points, the GUO is the hest champion option (give him the endless gift or witherstave artifact) and the LoA is just a really potent option for one follower choice and really puts out the hurt with the GUOs command ability.

"Putting a statement in quotations makes it seem more legitimate."
--Bette R. Withname

Imagine three people with the same set of values but radically different emotional states, each of them believes their position is more valid than the other two, they all post using the same account, and your job is to make it coherent. 
   
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Agreed on the Seraphon/Slann/Summoning issue. I was rather hoping the organiser would put some limits on summoning generally. I haven't played since AoS1 and I already miss reinforcement points!

What is it that makes the KoS so ridiculously good?

I've got a conversion that could potentially sub in as a LoA, so that might work. Otherwise I'll probably take a Poxbringer instead. Would you still go Bell/Blade for the GUO or maybe take the big sword in this case instead?
   
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos





The keeper of secrets is basically a depravity battery that can heal itself. So when you hurt it, you are essentially opening the gate up for new things to be summoned. If you ignore it, then it can tear up your army.

Our path to glory campaigns I disallow any allegiance abilities to include summoning until later in the campaign. Otherwise it gets lopsided and stupid very fast (from experience, I've had a few path to glory campaigns disintegrate because of summoning).

GW points don't bring balance. They exist purely for structure. You can get more balance from no points than you do from GW points. You however can get no structure in your game without points. 
   
Made in us
Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord






Always go bell with a GUO. Flail or blade are good, if you take endless gift as your artifact then blade.

Road to Renown artfully manages summoning with a reserve system that allows players to summon within reason while also not penalizing players who don't want to summon. RtR also cures high blood pressure and relieves headaches!

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"Putting a statement in quotations makes it seem more legitimate."
--Bette R. Withname

Imagine three people with the same set of values but radically different emotional states, each of them believes their position is more valid than the other two, they all post using the same account, and your job is to make it coherent. 
   
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok




Northern Virginia

OK! Well that was completely unexpected.

I participated in the 36 player RTT at NOVA yesterday. Ended up going 3-0, coming in 1st overall and winning the damn thing! Came in 4th for battle points.

Top four for battle points were: Daughters of Khaine, Slaanesh, Slaanesh, Nurgle (me), and FEC (feast day).

My games were great. First was against Matt Obringer from BWG group in PA. VERY competitive group. Mission was scorched earth. He played a skaven list, with like this CP generating farm using Thaanquol's command (that gives three heros the ability to use the generic commands for free), and then the verminus allegiance ability to get a cp back on a 5+, the brooch, and the master manipulator trait. So every time Thaanqoul would use his command, he could potentially get 16 CP generated!! Then the clawlord goes nuts with his command giving +1 attack using all those CP (because its uncapped). Luckily for me his rolls were poo and he left the stormvermin unscreened. Marauders with blades crashed into them and took them out. I took the lead and just summoned to zone out and didnt yield any ground.

Second game was against a DOPE nighthaunt list. The type of list I would play if I played nighthaunt. LOTS of bladegeist revenants. 30 of them. 30 grimghasts, some chain rasps, shroud guard battalion, reikenor, dreadblade harrows, and knight of shrouds. On total commitment so I lucked out there. I butt rushed him with the marauders on an objective guarded by chain rasps. He attacked my weak flank with the 30 grimghasts. I left only 10 unsupported kings (hubris) and they murdered them. I countered with 10 fully buffed kings and took them out in one go. Rolling 11 6's on 30 attacks will do that o_O. He had a hail mary at the end with 5 bladegiests on a 9" charge on festus guarding my home objective but rolled an 8 for the charge with no cp.

Last game on table 1 was against a thunderquake star host seraphon list on Three places of power. OOOOF tough matchup. Two bastillions ran up and parked in front of the objective, flanked by terrain. Engine of the gods and Slaan moved behind them onto the objectives. I thought the game was over then and there. I took the third objective, and tried my damndest to best those bastiladon to death and break through. COULDN'T. Tried outflanking with gutrot and charging the slaan. Finally hacked through the skink wall, made it to the slaan, started working on him.. until the rippers swooped in and got him. Ended up finishing off the Slaan with stage 6 cycle. Festus dispelled his balewind and ran over there. Took a bastiladon solar beam to the face. survived. managed to SOMEHOW claw my way back to tie him on VP's. And since the only unit he killed was gutrot (one blightking of ten had ONE wound left HAH) I took the minor win.

Looking forward to the GT on Saturday.
   
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Nice work!

"Putting a statement in quotations makes it seem more legitimate."
--Bette R. Withname

Imagine three people with the same set of values but radically different emotional states, each of them believes their position is more valid than the other two, they all post using the same account, and your job is to make it coherent. 
   
Made in us
Mutilatin' Mad Dok




Northern Virginia

Well everyone, I tried my best. Ran into some REALLY stiff competition, as expected and didnt do as well as I wanted. I went 3-2 (no minor wins/losses), coming in 18th overall, 22nd in battle points. I got nominated for Best Painted army, so coming in top ten there.

My five opponents were Slaanesh (3 keeper godseekers - the eventual winner of the event for both overall and battle points), KO/ballista/Hurricanum build, Ironjaws(ironfists/sunz waaaghhh bomb), Changehost (joe krier), and Legion of Azghor. (HOLY BALLS skullcracker war engines are NO joke!)

William Soehailli was my first opponent. What can I do against Slaanesh 3 keeper list on Knife to the Heart? Try my best but I straight up got smashed. He out dropped me and gave me first turn, as expected. I tried to stall the inevitable face beating as long as possible. Ran my 40 marauders up onto a piece of mystical terrain (so a 5+/5++/6++/6++) and charged the screen (hellstriders) of two of the keepers. I thought with a combination of 3 DPRs and RR 6s to hit I could keep them locked for maybe 2 turns while I got into a better position. I also tried to get the third keeper in combat with gutrot and 10 kings. Gutrot and the kings both failed the 8" charges. He only killed 6 marauders in that first combat phase. But he got the double turn, double piled in with a bunch of stuff, including charging the marauders with demonettes, crippled the slime fleet, and eventually started slaughtering blightkings. He got priority on turn three, retreated the keeper with thermal rider cloak behind my lines and summoned demonettes onto my objective after I had nothing left. Game. Not much I can do when he had 90+ depravity on turn 3.

Second game against a KO/Hurricanum/Ballista build on Total Conquest. He turtled on one objective and left 10 arkanaut compant on the other. After feeling a bit burned from the first game, I tried to go for the throat right from top of turn one. I buffed the EFF out of the marauders and went for it. Stoke rage, inferno blades and blades of putrefaction all on maruaders. Got a good run roll of 6, so they moved 13"/24" seperation. So only needed a 9" charge (+2" charge from musician and stoke rage). Would have been cool to see how much damage they could do. (perfect storm would have been them hitting on 3s RR1s, wounding on 2s, doing mortals on 5s and 2 damage per attack LOL) but I failed the charge. He double turned me. and focused his entire army into the marauders. Battleshock brought them down to only a handful+ and then started whittling the blightkings. My kings FINALLY made it across the board (a VERY timely double turn for me) and started smashing with 20 or so blightkings. Major win.

REALLY wanted to end the day 2-1. Got paired up against possibly the nicest human being on the planet, Correy Reece from Tennessee and his Ironjaws army. Mission was Shifting objectives. He had an Ironfist and Ironsunz build. Maw Crushers, 20 ardboys, 15 brutes, 6 gore gruntas, chanta, and shaman. He took first turn, hand of gorked his ardboyz in my face. everything moved to the center of the board and took all the objectives. I buffed everything up, charged everything, had GREAT positioning. Marauders with blades, sliced up the aard boys. They battleshocked off. But failed to take any objectives. He "WAAGGHH bombed" gave everything +5 attacks!!! I was able to survive the insane amount of damage. He was RR6s to hit/wound, and multiple DPRs. The maw crusha and brutes (I boxed them out with terrain well) only took out 5 blightkings. WELL HOLY DICE ROLLS, those 5 kings (buffed with RR wounds, +1 to wound, and inferno blades) took out a full health maw krusha in one round. LOTS of 6s off 15 dice, put about 20ish wounds into him, he saved all but like 7 or 8 but they were 2 damage a piece. BOOM. I doubled him and we called it. I still had not scored any VPs LOL but it was clear I would have just sat on objectives as most of his army was gone :|

Day two first game was against Change Host on Focal Points. He did was change host does and sent purple sun, pendulum, gnashing jaws, gravetide, maelstrom, and palisade right in my face. Locked my army down in my own deployment zone, summoned a ****** ton of blue horrors and just outplayed me. I had the LoC on one wound for two turns!!! but he was -1/-2 to hit in combat and couldn't plunk that last wound off. I also forgot a HUGE charge because we were rushing to fit in a round, started the first combat, and after my hit rolls asked if I could charge in ten kings that MIGHT have been able to win me the game.. but he wouldn't allow me to. :/ Very frustrating game for me. Change Host is great and picking where and when the fights happen. And I just couldn't ever get into good position. Fun game... just that build is stifling to play against.

Last game was against....Legion of azgorh? Wow. All second edition models. Super cool dude. Duality of death. I was going to outdrop him. So my plan was to grab both, but focus on one for the game. I sent 40 marauders and warshrine after one. And EVERYTHING else for the other. He sent 3 skullcracker war engines after the marauders. Luckily gutrot and 10 kings got the charge off and stalled two of them in combat for a few turns. So the marauders one objective for 1/2 turns or so. 20 kings, epitome, harbinger had to survive 12 bull centaurs, drazzgoth, then bull taurox general. The epitome was rolling hot and making them all strike LAST. 20 kings, did work and slashed their way through them. but more importantly survived and RACKED UP the points. He wiped the marauders off the board and started charging in the war engines, but I just threw up summoned demon roadblocks and he couldn't get to me.

Had an amazing time. GREAT game. 18th overall/22nd battle wasnt where I REALLY wanted to be. 3-2 was my "benchmark" but winning the RTT on thursday was a thrill. Sorry for the long post! Looking ahead to LVO!

I cant decide on if I should sharpen this list and tighten it up, or go back to the drawing board.
   
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord






Thanks for the update! Good sport of you to actually play the first game; I probably would have looked at the lists, called it, and found something else to do with my time because there was no way to win that

"Putting a statement in quotations makes it seem more legitimate."
--Bette R. Withname

Imagine three people with the same set of values but radically different emotional states, each of them believes their position is more valid than the other two, they all post using the same account, and your job is to make it coherent. 
   
Made in us
Mutilatin' Mad Dok




Northern Virginia

Had I actually made the charge with the 10 kings and spume on 10 demonettes and the keeper, I think I could have wiped them off the board in one round. ESPECIALLY had I grabbed her claws with spume's tentacles. All he had in the backfield was a exalted chaos hero (cheap way to boost the sybarites battlaion hero numbers, and a hideable character to avoid total summoning loss), He would have been forced to come back and deal with them or risk my stealing his home objective. Then the entire rest of my army pushes forward, and I summon zone him out of my territory. I REALLY think I could have taken it had it been for some better dice rolls (not complaining - its a dice game - just stating I had some untimely bad rolls, but rolled like box cars for a 3" charge)

It was a tremendous event. I played some great people, beautiful armies and had moderate success. Nurgle is a "3-2 army". Plain and simple. Sometimes punching above weight and hits 4-1 as Dan Karaban did at this event, coming in 3rd in battle points. His list was:

Chaos lord on demonic mount (witherstave) and 10 chaos knights
Verminlord Corrupter with favored poxes
Festus with blades of putrefaction
Contorted Epitome ally (admittedly I got the idea for epitome ally from Dan at Triumph GT in Jersey in June)
5 blightkings, 5 blightkings, 30 plaguebearers, 40 plague monks

His opponents were: bloodthirster tyrants list (this was his minor loss on knife to the heart), tzzentch skyfire/enlightened, LoN (120 skellies with vamps and a necro), Khorne skull cannon list, and a mixed DoK army (big blocks of snakes, sister of slaughter, witch elves, bloodwrack shrine and cauldron)

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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord






3-2 at tournaments is still pretty good overall. Unfortunately I think it does run into the issue of diversity; if someone wants to build a Nurgle list that will do that there is extreme limitation on how they can do it. Mono-daemon or mono-mortal, for example, are viable for casual play but simply can't compete with tourney cheese. As for the 4-1 list I would note he didn't have to go up against Slaanesh; I'd expect you could have gone 4-1 with those matchups as well.

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"Putting a statement in quotations makes it seem more legitimate."
--Bette R. Withname

Imagine three people with the same set of values but radically different emotional states, each of them believes their position is more valid than the other two, they all post using the same account, and your job is to make it coherent. 
   
 
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