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 AduroT wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Assembly is very similar to Malifaux for what its worth. A lot of them are perfectly reasonable, but then there's a random fiddly bit. The one nice thing they do is there are often doubles of pieces that are prone to get lost in the carpet. Thus far nothing has topped the worst of my Malifaux assembly moments, but there are things that can be tricky if you're not used to fiddly bits.

There’s fiddly, and then there’s Loki’s horns.

On pieces like that I clip a chunk of sprue off with them to give them more heft and leave you a bigger piece to grasp. After the fiddly bit is assembled, clip off the sprue section. Worked well for the horns, the jaws on Shuri's gauntlets, Star Lord's head, etc.

Only thing that gave me a lot of trouble was lining up Okoye's hands.

Yes, issues like that are across the board. Green stuff goes a long way with these guys.

 LunarSol wrote:
I'm tempted to assemble some Nyss Hunters to see if they're still the worst or just a lack of experience. I'm in no way willing to do so, but tempted.

I never really had a problem with the grunts, only the leader of that unit. All their arms attached to the sides of their torsos, so it’s an easy pinch to hold them in place. But her arms attached upwards into her shoulders, so you couldn’t do that.

 AduroT wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
I'm tempted to assemble some Nyss Hunters to see if they're still the worst or just a lack of experience. I'm in no way willing to do so, but tempted.

I never really had a problem with the grunts, only the leader of that unit. All their arms attached to the sides of their torsos, so it’s an easy pinch to hold them in place. But her arms attached upwards into her shoulders, so you couldn’t do that.

I had completely forgotten about that. Guess its time to hide under my desk and do some repressing.

 LunarSol wrote:
I'm tempted to assemble some Nyss Hunters to see if they're still the worst or just a lack of experience. I'm in no way willing to do so, but tempted.

Can confirm, they are still literally the incarnation of hell on Earth.

I know Mark has reconsidered his initial review but there’s a point he made I’d still take exception to: the notion that the game owes more to the Marvel IP than the rules. For me, it’s the total opposite. I am really impressed by the gameplay and really wish the system was paired up with an original setting or some other IP. I don’t hate Marvel but the MCU side of the house (Avengers, Guardians) does pretty well nothing for me. Nonetheless, I’ll be buying in because the play is just too fun.

I'm constantly surprised by the gameplay myself. Originally I just wanted some of the figures because I like the characters, but the gameplay has me buying all the releases just because I've been playing enough that I want the variety.

Yeah, I have never been too excited about, for example, Baron Zemo ... but after playing the game, I’m like, yes please more Baron Zemo! Before playing, looking over the product line was about whether I liked the characters from the comics; now, I just want to play them in the game.

I've been very impressed at how the game has managed to use character synergies to create a variety of of thematic builds in spite of the free for all nature of list building. I wasn't super enthused about the Cabal, but Red Skull/MODOK presents a fun unique playstyle that makes a nice break from the Avengers. I think the best example is Wakanda, which was something I was happy to pick up just Black Panther for my Avengers, but finally picked up Shuri and Okoye simply because of how a combination of the model pool and unique cards gives the affiliation a completely different strategy with minimal changes in characters.

I can definitely see that. Purely personally I feel the IP keeps me excited, but the gameplay finally clicking satisfies once I am actually playing. Its certainly a better skirmish game even outside of IP than many others out there, but for me the two aspects together is huge.

I mean... Flightpath was X-wing sans IP, and it never really penetrated the market on its merits alone.

There's no doubt that the IP gives the game an instant playerbase that it would otherwise have to earn with more effort put into artwork and lore.

To a degree, I actually think the WW2 setting of the prior flightpath games works against it by lumping it in with historicals.

This chap got a mini spoiler yesterday. Basic attack can be physical or energy, can apply a range of effects and has a superpower that allows him to ignore LOS. There's another grainy image of the box which allows a bit of a preview of Agent Widow too, but don't have a copy of that.

Hawkeye is one of those characters that make people say, what’s he doing there alongside the likes of Thor and the Hulk? He’s just a normal dude. But MCP makes a good argument about why he belongs.

A lot of comic characters may be very powerful but the scope of their power is quite limited. MCP models this by dividing damage types/resistances into Physical, Energy, and Psionic. For every lock, there is a key — but it isn’t very important how mighty the key is if it won’t fit the lock. A character like Hawkeye carries a key ring, or to jump to another metaphor, a toolbox: his quiver is full of arrows that address a bunch of different kinds of problems, which makes him flexible and adaptable in a way that some more glowy heroes aren’t.

There is a reason there are like tiers of heroes.
Street, City, country, globe and cosmic. I personally found myself liking city and street lvl heroes.
But there is a place for every hero. People joke about bows, but they can be surprisingly versatile. especially with comic logic.

It's also somewhat a result of power creep in comics. Like, Tony is basically Superman at this point. His armor is in his bones and is durable enough to take nukes all day, flies at supersonic speeds with enough firepower to take on fleets of spacecraft. Hawkeye has never really been the focus of these moments of oneupsmanship, largely because much of his appeal comes from being relatively normal.

Soon™

Two great characters, been waiting for then for a while now. They were previewed early on. Guess they were approved pretty quickly.

I like that pose more for regular spiderman.
Wonder if i can file it down and paint black suit spiderman.....

feth no. Just wait for Symbiote Spidey, he's inevitable.

These were supposed to be released early on, but there was production issues. Glad they got them sorted out, they look great.

Hawkeye's full card

He’a pretty great!

 Azreal13 wrote:
feth no. Just wait for Symbiote Spidey, he's inevitable.

I’m hoping for a Penny Parker myself. I’ve yet to pull the trigger on this game, but a full team of Spiders could push me over the edge.

If you’re trying to avoid getting into, one major piece of advice: don’t play it!

Another preview has surfaced..

MODOK and (I suspect) Dr Strange are going to find him hard going.

Yikes! We're going to be seeing a lot of Ebony Maw, methinks. What a cool set of abilities!

He's going to take some finesse to use well I think, undoubtedly potent offense, but get caught without two power to spend on Mind Over Matter and he'll fold like wet tissue.

But that size 4 throw though....

WOAH!!!!

Yeah, That is going to take the game to a whole new level. What an awesome character!!

 Grot 6 wrote:
WOAH!!!!

Yeah, That is going to take the game to a whole new level. What an awesome character!!

I haven't played the game and have only glanced at the rules, but I'm curious about this comment. Do you mean a whole new level terms of character power levels (so power creep I guess?), or in terms of the level of tactics employed or terrain interaction or something like that?

It’s definitely not power creep, just in terms of brute power.

Ebony Maw has a range 4 8-dice attack that costs 4 power. Compare with M.O.D.O.K.’s range 4 7-dice attack that costs 3 power that is immediately repeated against another character within range 2 of the initial target for no additional power spend.

What’s tactically interesting about Ebony Maw’s Herald of Doom attack is it bucks the damage/power economy. In MCP, characters generally gain power equal to the damage they take; so smacking a character really hard potentially sets that character up to do something cool right back atcha, making for a neat risk/reward decision point for both players. Herald of Doom just damages the target, however. No upside at all for the target! (Unless the target is Hulk ... )

That’s nowhere near the only interesting thing about Ebony Maw, but just focusing on his offensive potential.