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The dark behind the eyes.

The fact that I had to reread that Strands of Fate mechanic several times to work out what the hell it was talking about is definitive proof for me that these are legitimate, GW rules.

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I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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I think these are probably fake. A lot read like the person went through a certain thread here on Dakka, and is wishlisting.

But if they’re true, and I’m not ruling that out…..COWER BEFORE ME, PUNY MORTALZ!

   
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I first read it as being you roll X dice, and you keep swapping them out with dice you've already rolled.

Suprised not to see some mention of any strats to key off the sixes you roll for your fate dice.
   
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It becomes more and more obvious that this is fake.

The hoaxer would need a very broad knowledge (minituares releases, rules, box contents). This exceeds what he can know from his stated source: a codex test print or playtest rules.
And in terms of miniatures he chooses to only share the ones that were already rumoured instead of something surprising in order to make it harder to be contradicted by the rumour engine.
In terms of rules he seems to be very enamored with his own creation so that he explains his fake rules in detail instead of giving a comprehensive overview.
   
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I hope at least 1% of this pans out

Im all up for all of it.
As long as they make wraith units worth taking

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "


 Eonfuzz wrote:


I would much rather everyone have a half ass than no ass.


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 Vovin wrote:
This exceeds what he can know from his stated source: a codex test print or playtest rules.
Wasn't there meant to be two sources - a playtest codex and parts of a full version sent out for translation? (or am I getting things mixed up?)
   
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So you roll x dice each turn based on the game size, establishing a pool of values. Keep the rolled values in mind.

Then when you roll any dice later in the turn, if any of the values match the dice you rolled at the beginning of the turn, you can then choose to discard a matching die from the pool and convert your rolled die to a 6.

So not only is it less flexible than the SoB version, you have less predictability. Some real solid future seeing there.

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Lol, this dude seems to think that rolling a 6 for morale is better than rolling a 2 (and for the sake of argument, let's ignore the silly corner cases where it actually could be advantageous to lose a model to morale).

He doesn't know how to play 9e, I don't see why his rumor would be credible.
   
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yeah, I'm pretty much on the side of this is all just BS. He has nothing regards Reapers or an Autarch with reaper weapon yet there was clearly one in rumour engine today on warcom.
   
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 Gene St. Ealer wrote:
Lol, this dude seems to think that rolling a 6 for morale is better than rolling a 2 (and for the sake of argument, let's ignore the silly corner cases where it actually could be advantageous to lose a model to morale).

He doesn't know how to play 9e, I don't see why his rumor would be credible.

Unless you can use them on enemy dice.
   
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Khahandran wrote:

Unless you can use them on enemy dice.


Turning your opponent's rolls into sixes is...not a net benefit for one's own army.
   
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Sterling191 wrote:
Khahandran wrote:

Unless you can use them on enemy dice.


Turning your opponent's rolls into sixes is...not a net benefit for one's own army.

Sigh. It is in the example of a moral test.
   
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Khahandran wrote:

Sigh. It is in the example of a moral test.


Because Morale is quite literally the only time (outside of super edge cases involving detonating enemy Psykers via Perils) you want your opponent to have a 6 showing. Building an entire mechanic around "manipulating your opponent's dice" which results in them being better in all but one or two cases would be ludicrous.
   
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I just want Eldar psychic powers to actually be powerful relative to other races. Need a serious boost.
   
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Sterling191 wrote:
Khahandran wrote:

Sigh. It is in the example of a moral test.


Because Morale is quite literally the only time (outside of super edge cases involving detonating enemy Psykers via Perils) you want your opponent to have a 6 showing. Building an entire mechanic around "manipulating your opponent's dice" which results in them being better in all but one or two cases would be ludicrous.

No one said anything about building the entire mechanic around just that. It is simply being used as an example.

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Sterling191 wrote:
Khahandran wrote:

Sigh. It is in the example of a moral test.


Because Morale is quite literally the only time (outside of super edge cases involving detonating enemy Psykers via Perils) you want your opponent to have a 6 showing. Building an entire mechanic around "manipulating your opponent's dice" which results in them being better in all but one or two cases would be ludicrous.


Of course leak said nothing about your or enemy. In theory you could do either at will.

Though unlikely gw would allow as freely for opponent for corner case and as example stupid indeed. But what else you expect from trolls.

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An example is just that; An example. If it were an equivalent mechanic as SoB you'd have to match the dice rolled but then get to pick whatever value you want. That would be the reverse of what miracle dice are but flexible in a different way. Has to match the pre-ordained value but flexibility in choosing is the reward.

All we have to go on is that you match a dice roll and can change it to a 6. We don't know if that's the whole rule or what the context is. Even if that's the whole rule more often than not you want high numbers and you don't HAVE to swap the dice, so it's still pretty powerful to be able to convert a low one to a high one.

I know the Eldar community is founded upon a strict code of salt and pessimism, but seriously if every single thing that comes out of the woodwork is poo poo'd because the end of our noses are too long to see past, we'll never get any enjoyment out of these releases. Seriously, I came to this thread expecting to see everyone excited and theory crafting over the possibilities and all I see is doom and gloom!

I mean I know its not without justification, but man, I was excited! I guess optimism is one of my virtues lol
   
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Seeing how probable any of this is of actually being true, I wouldn't be too optimistic anyway ^^
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
Seeing how probable any of this is of actually being true, I wouldn't be too optimistic anyway ^^


I get it. GW has burned Eldar players too many times that it's hard to accept any positivity. GW surely owes a lot of people some therapy. But, I mean really? The rumour engine at the moment is showing an Eldar model EVERY DAY, they're all Eldar models! Is it really so hard to believe there's a big revamp on the way? The specifics might be a bit hazy, but the presence of hard evidence should be enough to afford us a little bit of optimism? Right? lol

I have a friend thats going to go bonkers if they actually release fully functional Corsairs, like he has an entire army of them from back in the day. Personally i'm excited for new Warp Spiders, new Scorpions and all the crazy shenanegans the new HQs seem to have floating about them. LIke most people I collected Eldar when I was still at school, most of those models are still around some 20 odd years later so for them to get a reboot is the most exciting thing to happen to 40k in a long time.

Even better if it comes with some actual supporting narrative for the rework. Itd be good to have some closure/progression on the whole Slaanesh is consuming our souls forever plotline thats literally been the only thing to define Eldar for 25 years. Vive le optimism!

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
So not only is it less flexible than the SoB version, you have less predictability. Some real solid future seeing there.


You might even say that they don't grasp at strands of fate. But at straws !

-"For the Ruinous Powers!" 
   
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The dark behind the eyes.

Was there any hint at when we can expect this release?

The one thing I find surprising is GW not doing it in time for Christmas.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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 vipoid wrote:
Was there any hint at when we can expect this release?

The one thing I find surprising is GW not doing it in time for Christmas.


The word of the bird is it's pretty much the next unannounced codex after the ones we already know are coming out. But given they've delayed GSC and Custodes we're probably talking March or something. Who knows all I heard was it's the next one we haven't had an official announcement for.

Edit: Dont they usually announce big things at Christmas and then follow up in the new year?

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Octovol wrote:


I get it. GW has burned Eldar players too many times that it's hard to accept any positivity. GW surely owes a lot of people some therapy. But, I mean really? The rumour engine at the moment is showing an Eldar model EVERY DAY


It's probably all one model. It's a new autarch wearing ranger chaps and the winged helmet crouched on a rock holding the two-handed reaper launcher.

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 Arschbombe wrote:
Octovol wrote:


I get it. GW has burned Eldar players too many times that it's hard to accept any positivity. GW surely owes a lot of people some therapy. But, I mean really? The rumour engine at the moment is showing an Eldar model EVERY DAY


It's probably all one model. It's a new autarch wearing ranger chaps and the winged helmet crouched on a rock holding the two-handed reaper launcher.


On a Jetbike
   
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Octovol wrote:
 Arschbombe wrote:
Octovol wrote:


I get it. GW has burned Eldar players too many times that it's hard to accept any positivity. GW surely owes a lot of people some therapy. But, I mean really? The rumour engine at the moment is showing an Eldar model EVERY DAY


It's probably all one model. It's a new autarch wearing ranger chaps and the winged helmet crouched on a rock holding the two-handed reaper launcher.


On a Jetbike


And this Autarch has been exiled from Eldar society and is actually paired with a new Primaris LT and can only be taken by Space Marine factions...



I kid, I really really am trying not to get too excited though because I feel like there is huuuge potential for disappointment....
   
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Today rumour concerns Harlequins.
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Day 10 rumour

   
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I’m really sensing BS now.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m really sensing BS now.


Why? That reads very 9th ed GW to me.
   
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Have you read them all?

From a “quick read of a pre-print copy”?

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m really sensing BS now.


The rules discussed so far are very much believable for GW in 9E. My main hesitation is that I can't see a plausible source for leaks like this. Someone looking at a draft of the codex for playtesting or translation purposes wouldn't know about Harlequin models later in the year, or what Chaos models are coming out at the same time.

However the main thing keeping me hopeful about these rumours at this point is that the advent engine pics so far tend to line up not only with the supposed new models, but specifically the models likely to be out first (Rangers & Autarch in battle box, Corsairs in KT). If we see the advent engine flip to Chaos models in the next few days that will be a very strong indication.
   
 
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