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2022/06/22 18:07:29
Subject: The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
ListenToMeWarriors wrote: My last couple of Aggrax bottles have been glossy, largely rectified by strongly shaking the bottle then mixing in a little medium. But if it is a sign of the new formulation I am not a fan.
I had the same issue with the last few of mine too. One of the bottles refused to not be glossy even after shaking. Even my current pot which isn't leaving my models glossy, is still darkening more than I'd like without the introduction of medium to thin it back. Which is fine for my Black Legion/Chaos Knights, but my Primaris are managing to have quite the range of shades of olive drab. I might not have noticed with any other color, but it's pretty obvious with green.
2022/06/22 20:59:37
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Ghaz wrote: Looks like a few more paints have been added to the Last Chance to Buy category. Currently there are 31 Air paints, 7 Dry paints, 4 Shades and 1 Spray in the category.
some of the air paints are a bit suprising, Sons of Horus Green... NOW?!
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2022/06/24 14:22:59
Subject: The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Reminds me of nothing so much as Arnold in Conan the Barbarian talking to the creepy cultist, killing him and stealing his clothes:
"Its all you'll ever need"
I notice that there is no mention of the Air paints at all.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/06/24 14:46:58
Subject: The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Seriously. Has anyone ever gotten that spray to go on well?
It's the worst. THE WORST.
I bought a can early this year and it worked fine for me. I used it as a primer for army painter speed paints and they came out fine (which would show up issues more than most other situations).
It's the only can I've bought and it seems okay to me. Perhaps they've varied over the years? Or maybe it varies country to country?
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2022/06/24 15:21:35
Subject: The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Reminds me of nothing so much as Arnold in Conan the Barbarian talking to the creepy cultist, killing him and stealing his clothes:
"Its all you'll ever need"
I notice that there is no mention of the Air paints at all.
The Air paints always felt like the red haired step child because GW doesn't sell their own air brushes and don't want to risk people finding out there's other paint brands if they go looking into them.
2022/06/24 15:29:35
Subject: The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Plus the citadel pots aren't great for airbrushes - droppers and backflushing (to mix thinner) are much more convenient than using a sacrificial hairy stick.
But that's almost half the air range they've put onto LCTB now. Quite a few colours remain as layer paints so just need more thinning, but there's a number now of the ex-forgeworld colours that got brought back and are being murdered again. And EOL the heresy air colours just feels mean right now.
Glad I never bought into that range much!
2022/06/24 15:40:05
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
The Air paints were originally a Forge World line that they had for several years before they were moved into the main paint line when the Contrast paints were released. Their pots originally looked like this...
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/06/24 15:54:56
Subject: The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
I actually really like iron hands steel as a color. Has a nice warm tone vs the cooler tone of leadbelcher.
Nothing is quite as good as the vallejo metal colors (for acrylics) though.
I might pick up a couple pots of the new contrast. Aeldari Emerald looks like it might be close enough to Kabalite green. . . a color I use for my AoS stormcast / CoS / KO armies. And the Black Legion might be just what I need. . . I found that Black Templar was just a liiiiitle too transparent out of the pot for what I want.
Maybe some of the brighter primary colors as well. I use Contrast a lot for my wife's Seraphon, and it works amazing. I can pump out seriously good looking models really fast if they are covered in texture.
2022/06/24 16:06:44
Subject: The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Seriously. Has anyone ever gotten that spray to go on well?
It's the worst. THE WORST.
I bought a can early this year and it worked fine for me. I used it as a primer for army painter speed paints and they came out fine (which would show up issues more than most other situations).
It's the only can I've bought and it seems okay to me. Perhaps they've varied over the years? Or maybe it varies country to country?
It's probably a mix of all of the above--plus white sprays tend to be extremely twitchy when it comes to weather conditions in my experience...and where I live? Humidity can be non-existent then stifling in mere hours!
2022/06/24 19:47:22
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Juan Hidalgo will be doing a livestream on YouTube on June 26th at 11 AM EDT comparing the old Shades with the new Shades.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/06/24 20:07:41
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Ghaz wrote: The Air paints were originally a Forge World line that they had for several years before they were moved into the main paint line when the Contrast paints were released. Their pots originally looked like this...
They had Air before they moved the FW colours over. I picked up a few back when I was getting into airbrushing around 2016.
2022/06/24 20:16:51
Subject: The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Reminds me of nothing so much as Arnold in Conan the Barbarian talking to the creepy cultist, killing him and stealing his clothes:
"Its all you'll ever need"
I notice that there is no mention of the Air paints at all.
I've been told regarding the airbrush paints "it'll make more sense soon" that said I'm honestly tempted to hold off on my imperial fists until july in case GW discontinues the whole range, although I would think they'd keep averland sunset at the least
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2022/06/25 01:30:13
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Not only will Juan be testing the new Shades, he will be testing all of the new Contrast paints tomorrow...
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/06/25 09:00:07
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
So, I have been allowed to try out the new formula Citadel Shade paints for a few weeks now and I've put my thoughts in a video. I'll have a look at all 7 new Shade paints and also compare the old versions of favourites like Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade with their new version. Are they really an improvement or just the same product in a smaller 18ml pot?
Yesterday's paint article on Warhammer Community had this line:
"We are approaching the release of 25 brand new Contrast Paints, a range of new and reformulated Shade paints, and the best and brightest white Spray ever."
And I think the reveal video said July? I could actually see the paints in tomorrow's pre-order announcement. Just a guess, of course.
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Why is the rum always gone?
2022/06/25 10:08:09
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
So, I have been allowed to try out the new formula Citadel Shade paints for a few weeks now and I've put my thoughts in a video. I'll have a look at all 7 new Shade paints and also compare the old versions of favourites like Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade with their new version. Are they really an improvement or just the same product in a smaller 18ml pot?
Mr_Rose wrote: Do we know when the new paints will actually be available? I had thought they might be on preorder today…
They said July in the very first article...
If the paints were going to be on pre-order today we would have known last Sunday in their 'Sunday Preview' article on Warhammer Community where they let us know what's coming up for pre-order the next weekend (this week is Codex Chaos Space Marines and more Horus Heresy kits).
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/06/25 16:09:02
Subject: The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2022/06/25 18:37:57
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
stahly wrote: So, I have been allowed to try out the new formula Citadel Shade paints for a few weeks now and I've put my thoughts in a video. I'll have a look at all 7 new Shade paints and also compare the old versions of favourites like Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade with their new version. Are they really an improvement or just the same product in a smaller 18ml pot?
Quick question, stahly - when you were at the test event, did they mention if a matte (or non-gloss, at least) version of Cryptek Armourshade would be coming at some point? As it is gloss-only at the moment, getting rid will lose the colour from the range.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
2022/06/25 18:52:29
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Honestly, if that's the result then why does contrast even exist? Yeah, GW has fixed the pooling issues but it seems like they've only done it at the expense of removing the "one coat shading" part. The one on the right is a lot smoother but it also has no depth, you'd need to do a conventional shade + highlight process on it to get to an acceptable standard.
THE PLANET BROKE BEFORE THE GUARD!
2022/06/25 19:12:01
Subject: Re:The next evolution of Citadel Colour paint (new paints incoming?)
Honestly, if that's the result then why does contrast even exist? Yeah, GW has fixed the pooling issues but it seems like they've only done it at the expense of removing the "one coat shading" part. The one on the right is a lot smoother but it also has no depth, you'd need to do a conventional shade + highlight process on it to get to an acceptable standard.
Eh, honestly, the thumbnail is weird, as it shows off one of the two or three new paints that have little inbuilt shading.
"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado
2022/06/25 19:25:05
Subject: New Citadel Contrast, White Scar primer & new formula Shade paints (reviews page 11)
Plus they've got a whole new range of Shades to sell you to fix that.
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