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Tell me what you think of my list, I don't know how it would work so any info is appreciated. It almost feels like I should fit in a squad of noise marines again, what do you think?

HQ:
Chaos Lord (145) w/ Lightning Claws & Mark of Slaanesh & Jump Pack

Sorcerer (125 pts) w/ Lash of Submission & mark of Slaanesh


ELITES:
Dreadnought (105) w/ Plasma Cannon
Terminators x10 (175) w/ Mark of Slaanesh & Aspiring Champ.

TROOPS:
Noise Marines x8 (245) w/ Sonic Blasters x6 & Blastmaster & Champ
Noise Marines x8 (225) w/ Sonic Blasters x7 & Champ w/ Doomsiren
Chaos Marine x10 (200) w/ Meltagun x2 & Champ w/ Power Weapon
Chaos Marine x10 (210) w/ Plasma Gun & Flamer & Champ w/ Twin-Bolter & Power Weapon
Rhino (50) w/ Extra Armor
Rhino (35) w/ Twin Bolter

FAST ATTACK:
Raptor Squad x10 (285) w/ Mark of Slaanesh &Plasma Pistol & Flamer & Champ w/ Lightning Claws & Meltabombs

HEAVY SUPPORT:
Havoc x6 (235) w/ Missile Launcher x2 & Autocannon & Lascannon x2
Vindicator (130) w/ Twin Linked Bolter
Predator (160) w/Side Heavy Bolters & Lascannon & Demonic Possession & Twin Bolter

TOTAL:
2500



Also if anyone could take a look at my 2000 point list: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/299924.page

Nice list, I would reccommend a demon prince instead of the sorcerer. And I am happy to see some of the minis I traded you included in the list, its good that they will see the table again instead of collecting dust in my basement. post some pics of em after you repaint em, i'd love to see it.

HQ's are both ok. Princes are better but at this points level they tend to die quickly, and staying cheap on the HQs is a decent way to go since everything in the book is overcosted compared to current dexes.

Dred: not a fan of them, except for games for fun only. Too random, and an easy kill for the opponents Anti Tank the turn after they stop some rhinos. Also, 1 heavy plasma gun just isnt very threatening. My suggestion is drop it.

Terms : Nto the best thing ever, but 10 terminators can be ok, and you kept em cheap so not to shabby there. 2 or 3 combi melta and a single chain fist wouldnt change the cost much, and would be good insurance against dreds etc.

1st NM squad: Can really be dropped to 5 total members + blastmaster. They shoudl be pickign a nice vantage poitn and shooting the BM most of the game, so no need for champ or extra memebers. I would suggest a rhino for them as well, deploy in it and sit and shoot out the entire game. If thye ignore it, which they might since the rest or yoru army is getting in their face, you can drive to objectives in the last turn or two as well.

2nd NM sqaud, looking good, but could use a PF for insurance against things that mass attacks bounce off of. Need a rhino for these gents as well.

1st Marine squad: looking good. I prefer fists, but if a Pw works for you no issues there.

2nd marine squad : I would stick two two PG or two flamers. Mixing just hurts you. Two PG isnt bad as you are a little lacking on things that hurt termis and 2+ save/FNP. Again I prefer fist on champ.

Dont bother with Extra armor. It only does something 1/6 of the time.

Raptors: usually get hosed before they do anything, but when your whole army is rushing forward they sometimes get ignored in favor of popping rhinos. If they work for you alls good. They definatly work better with two melta guns though ... PP is horrible, and 1 flamer wont change much of anything. 2MG gives you a shot against vehicles/dreds, etc. Since your lord is tagging along with these guys a fist on the champ is another bit of good insurance against dreds etc that the rest of the squad cant hurt, but its not mandatory ... you just have to be careful what they go after if they only have LC. Good news that way is that whatever they hit is probably going away. Good way to take on death company(well, not the best, but better than some of the other options you might have)

Havocs with mixed loadout is not very good ... whatever you shoot at something is getting wasted. I would suggest a squad with 4 auto cannon. That reliablys pops transports liek rhinos, chimeras, valks, etc and puts the hurting on MCs as well, even if most of them will still get saves.

Vindi: i dont like banking on one shot a turn that scatters off target half the time. I would take these points and with the points saved from dropping the dred put in another NM squad. You might have to fiddle with squad sizes a little to make things work. If you run short on pooints, you could drop the second regular marine squad down to 8 and run it with a melta gun instead of two plasma.

Pred will do better with Autocannon and las sponsons for hunting tanks. Which you need. your troops have anti infantry covered. I personaly dont bother with posession, it is expensive and makes you miss more.


Be aggressive with the list. You can't sit around and wait wioth chaos. It needs to get in theri face as soon as possible. If they pop rhinos after they have moved to the mid field, its no biggie as their mission is accomplished.

Good luck with the list!

The Night Stalker wrote:Nice list, I would reccommend a demon prince instead of the sorcerer. And I am happy to see some of the minis I traded you included in the list, its good that they will see the table again instead of collecting dust in my basement. post some pics of em after you repaint em, i'd love to see it.

Yea, and will do.

As for my list I'll prolly cut the Terminators, narrow down my NS and Change up my havocs. Thanks for the great advice.

Watch your havocs HW count, its 4 per squad and I see you have 5 in your squad, probably should drop the autocannon.

Oh, right, thanks man