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Will the disassembly be better thought out?

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Will the disassembly be better thought out?

One can only hope, right?

That looks neat, and would be cool if you already own a high point, I can see the draw, but if you don't, you can get a Beretta CX4 for less than the total package price of the HP carbine and bullpup kit. I like the look though for sure.

I would 100% buy one of these bullpups at that price point.

I get the Hi-point hate, because they really are ugly, but I also really appreciate the company's ethos of "everyone should be able to defend themselves, even if they don't have a lot of money". Besides, ugly as they are, they are pretty well built - Demo Ranch tried to kill one and failed, even after shooting the slide.

I...I accidentally spent 4 hours and $160 worth of ammo at the range today.

I learned I have no idea how to properly shoot 12ga slugs at 50 yards. Kept it on the target stand...but not all on paper. I think a red dot will help.

I also found that Century Hotshot ammo works pretty well for budget 9mm and 223 ammo, some odd ejection but no failures in about 400 rounds.

12g slug will put a hurting on the shoulder.. is you barrel rifled for slugs? Improved cylinder is the preferred for smooth bore slug shooting.

I was playing around with the vepr12, smoothbore. Was running some Herter's rifled slugs. Alas when it comes to chokes I an woefully undereducated, but I may need to look into that.

I think a big issue is that the sights are RPK machinegun sights that sit real low, and it is hard to actually get low enough to line up with a good cheek weld if the cheek rest is positioned (or have to deal without it), hoping a red dot will make that issue moot, we shall see...

Any fellow dakka members with experience of shooting World War Italian rifles?

I'm doing a thread on the Italian military right now, and inspired by Forgotten weapons and C&rsenal's videos, I ended up collecting Italian forces for FOW

Forgotten weapons seem to rate the Italian rifle quite well, so has anybody here fired one, and are they any good?Thanks for any feedback.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Any fellow dakka members with experience of shooting World War Italian rifles?

I'm doing a thread on the Italian military right now, and inspired by Forgotten weapons and C&rsenal's videos, I ended up collecting Italian forces for FOW

Forgotten weapons seem to rate the Italian rifle quite well, so has anybody here fired one, and are they any good?Thanks for any feedback.

Ian has a second channel with a co-host, InRange TV. They are doing a series with the Carcano v the Kar98K which is proving interesting;






After watching the Forgotten Weapons video watch the first video and Ian discusses the differences between what he thought was an advantage on paper compared to the real life handling of the rifle.

I had a Carcano, and I actually knew about the bullet diameter issue. A local Carcano fanboy helped me out in obtaining correct ammo.

These rifles have one glaring issue: where they were made. If your Carcano was made in an actual weapons plant it was pretty good. If it was made in a factory that used to make sewing machines, but converted to make rifles for WWII, it could very well stink.

Also, many times the stocks were not made in-house. This means that not only could the stocks be made to questionable standards, they often didn't meet the questionable standards of the metal parts. This lead to some "quick and dirty" fitting.

I have a question and could use some help.

I have an opportunity to purchase an unusual revolver, a Manurhin MR73. I checked the revolver out and noticed something odd (to me) but am not sure if I should be concerned about this issue or not.

No rust or obvious issues noted. Trigger is good and it locks up tight - tighter than any revolver I have ever laid hand on.

The way the cylinder rotates struck me as odd. It does not spin freely like a S&W or Colt. It does move, just feels a bit stiff. Again, the trigger feels good and the cylinder moves in alignment when you operate the trigger.

Is this something that strikes anyone more knowledgable as a red flag? I can't find anything about how the cylinder should normally rotate on this type of revolver.

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice.

As long as the cylinder cycles when you actuate the trigger, I would think it's fine, may just need some cleaning and lube, but I've never gotten to play with one so I couldn't tell you for sure.

I went to YouTube to check that revolver out and as far as what I saw it didnt seem weird at all on video anyways. Sootch has a 15ish minute video on those with several minutes devoted to up close trigger pulls and pull tests using a meter if you want to look that up. Maybe the revolver youre looking at just needs some oiling?

Thank you both for the information.

I wound up watching multiple videos and of course no one spins the cylinder in any of them. Just my luck.

I think I misunderstood what you said. Are you meaning when the cylinder is open, it spins weird? I thought you meant while pulling the trigger it felt weird.

 KingCracker wrote:
I think I misunderstood what you said. Are you meaning when the cylinder is open, it spins weird? I thought you meant while pulling the trigger it felt weird.

Sorry about the confusion. Yes I meant that when the cylinder is open it turns slowly. I found it odd due to my experiences with Ruger, Colt and S&W revolvers - which all spun freely with little effort when the cylinder was open.

Ahh yea that makes sense. Well one of the videos I watched they said that those revolvers are made with very close tolerances so maybe the cylinder just needs some oil or hell maybe even just some use. If you pull the trigger and everything works as it should then go for it, that looks like a top revolver

If it is working as intended, it's possible that was a feature to allow for easier reloading or cleaning. So you don't have to hold the cylinder in place.

Thats the line Im thinking too. Its not an American revolver so it may not function exactly like our revolvers do. That or unlike us Americans, we get to shoot our firearms pretty much without thought, maybe its just not worn in yet. Here we say "oh take that new gun and put 500 rounds through it and itll work like a dream" well how long would that take in most European countries? Here 500 rounds is a good shooting sesson

Well, I managed to find another Manurhin at a local gunshop for only $450. Went ahead and put a deposit down on it and will pick it up at the end of September.

It's in better condition than the 1st one I found and about $150 cheaper!

I managed to luck out in this instance.

Does the cylinder on this one behave the same way?

 Slinky wrote:
Does the cylinder on this one behave the same way?

Oh, I should have mentioned that! The cylinder on this one rotates freely just like the S&Ws and Colts I have handled in the past.

I spoke to a buddy who deals in C&R weapons and he thinks that most likely the first one I saw just needs to be taken apart and cleaned up. It had likely been in storage for a long time and just needs some TLC.

Signed up for my first USPSA competition (tier 1 only) this Saturday. Old fart waddling with the big boy shooters!

Well good luck to ya, and dont forget to eat your Wheaties and take old man pills before hand. Gotta stay limber and sharp

 Frazzled wrote:
Signed up for my first USPSA competition (tier 1 only) this Saturday. Old fart waddling with the big boy shooters!

Careful.

Once you go IPSC you won't go back to plinking.

I already do IDPA ( that's competitions for old farts and weekend hacks). I like the USPSA shooting but not keen on the running around.

 Frazzled wrote:
I already do IDPA ( that's competitions for old farts and weekend hacks). I like the USPSA shooting but not keen on the running around.

Well I survived! Took #1 for production and class on the the classifier and one other stage but purely slacker on the others. Fun but hot and I was a bit surprised by the lack of people taping/resetting. They have a steel match at end of month I may try as there is no movement. Only hurt my back once so that is a positive!

 Frazzled wrote:
Only hurt my back once so that is a positive!

Sadly, I have entered the stage of my life that I appreciate that accomplishment.

Congratulations!

Hey, have any of you guys filled out a non-trust, form 1 recently? If so... do you include one set of prints, or two?

 Frazzled wrote:
I already do IDPA ( that's competitions for old farts and weekend hacks). I like the USPSA shooting but not keen on the running around.

Horses for courses then. Running around, controlling your pace, etc. is the best bit about shooting for me.