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I'm not going to lie, I don't make good fiction for characters but I like to make them up in my head

I wanted a charcter that was from the heresy and suited the fluff for the IW


Warsmith Pessidus Clax may be inluded as a HQ choice for any CSM army and costs 220pts

Warsmith Pessidus Clax (infantry, unique) +0-4 of Perturabo's Finest***
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Stats:

WS-5/ BS-7/ S-5/ T-5/ W-3/ A-4/ I-5/ Ld-10/ Sv-2+/4++

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Wargear:

Frag grenades

Terminator Armour*

Master-Crafted Combi-Plas

Hammer of Vengance**

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Special Rules:

Fearless

Iron Within Iron Without: Due to the many cybernetic augmentations he has recieved over the years the Warsmith cannot be ID'd by weapons with a strength twice his toughness (bit is still venerable to weapons that cause instant death)

Independent Character***

Eternal Hatred: Any army containing Lysander automatically grants the warsmith and his retinue the preferred enemies USR

Seige Specialist: Due to his presence on the battle field only needed in the direst of sieges he brings an unbelievable amount of firepower. Any army containing the warsmith may take Vindicators in squadrons of 1-2 for an additional price of 20pts per squadron

Deep Strike(As per the terminator rules from C:CSM)

*From the Heresy: Due to the incredible age of his armour it has more refined technologies he has a 4++ save)

**His waepon was forged by the Primarch Perturabo and is perfecty balanced and a sight to behold. It is treated as a Thunder hammer that strikes a normal initiative.

***Perturabo's Finest are an elite group of veteran terminators that sometimes accompany him into battle. Perturabo's Finest are his personal retinue and are terminators with the following stats. (When the warsmith has a retinue of Perturabo's Finest he loses the Independent character special rule.)

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Perturabo's Finest:40pts per model
WS-4/ BS-5/ S-4/ T-4/ W-1/ I-5/ A-2/ Ld-10/ Sv-2+/5++

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Wargear:

Frag genades
Power Weapon
Twin-Linked Bolter

They may purchase weapon as described in the Chaos Terminators entry in C:CSM for the correct points.
Note: They are not restricted by the unit size requirements on the Reaper AC and HF. But they may not choose a mark of any kind.

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Special rules:

Fearless

Deep Strike

They follow the rules for a retinue as described in the Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook.


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Transport:
They may take a landraider from C:CSM as a dedicated transport


So what to you think is it too ridiculous or too underpowered or has it magically found the right balance. I'll leave in to you.

Perturabo's Finest should have a 4++, as reflects their more venerated armour. The Warsmith rules are fine, except that I would suggest the rule which grants Preferred Enemy if Lysander is present should also affect the Imperial Fists too, as come on, they are bitter enemies.

I wasn't sure on the 4++ on the terminators as I didn't know by how much they should cost and about the Preferred enemies it would get awkward as the Imperial fists have no specific codex, so me declaring that you plat Imperial fists just cause you play yellow marines might lead to a few arguments whereas I felt lysander made it a close to sure thing. Then again I could always ask them do they play Imperial fists.

Well say that is Lysander is present, both armies have Preferred Enemy against each other, it doesn't have to be anymore complicated than that.

Your character is great but needs a few small tweaks before he is good to go. At the moment, he is a bit powerful and a lot of players would be hesitant to let you use him in an informal game.

A thunder hammer striking at I5 is somewhat broken. Essentially this makes him a CC monster like Abaddon and Mephiston, only these characters are renown for being great in CC. Your character is a siege master of the IW and should be fearsome in CC but not a CC monster. I suggest changing it to either a thunder hammer that strikes at str 10 OR a thunder hammer that offers to wound re-rolls. Essentially this leaves you with a powerful 220 point appropriate character that generates a significant threat in CC.

The retinue unit is also somewhat powerful for 40 points per model. I would personally balance them by
1. Lower their initiative to 4. This is not needed
2. Remove their ability to all take heavy weapons (as current this combined with prefered enemy results in a powerful shooty unit that has re-rolls). 1 heavy weapon for the group should be plenty as the rest would have access to combi-weapons (and combining this with preferred enemy results in a powerful but not broken unit).
3. Make the unit fearless (you don’t want your HQ to be running away now).

Also you don’t need to specifically state that your character loses the IC rule when rolling with his retinue. The rulebook states that ICs count as an upgraded character when with a retinue type unit and thus cannot be targeted directly with the standard multi wound and stat unit rules applying. When the retinue unit is destroyed, the character counts as an IC again.

so would this make it a little less broken



Warsmith Pessidus Clax (infantry, unique) +0-4 of Perturabo's Finest***
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Stats:

WS-5/ BS-7/ S-5/ T-5/ W-3/ A-4/ I-5/ Ld-10/ Sv-2+/4++

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Wargear:

Frag grenades

Terminator Armour*

Master-Crafted Combi-Plas

Hammer of Vengance**


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Special Rules:

Fearless

Iron Within Iron Without(see above)

Independent Character***

Eternal Hatred:(see above)

Siege Specialist(see above)

Deep Strike

*From the heresy(see above)

**His weapon was forged by the Primarch Perturabo and is perfectly balanced and a sight to behold.It is a power weapon that adds +D3 strength to his attacks and against vehicles he receives a +1 modifier to his rolls on the vehicle damage chart.

***Perturabo's Finest are an elite group of veteran terminators that sometimes accompany him into battle. Perturabo's Finest are his personal retinue and are terminators with the following stats.


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Perturabo's Finest:40pts per model
WS-4/ BS-5/ S-4/ T-4/ W-1/ I-4/ A-2/ Ld-10/ Sv-2+/4++


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Wargear:

Frag genades
Power Weapon
Twin-Linked Bolter

They may purchase weapon as described in the Chaos Terminators entry in C:CSM for the correct points.
Note: They are not restricted by the unit size requirements on the Reaper AC and HF, but they may only take one either a Reaper AC OR a HF. But they may not choose a mark of any kind.

They may also take ''The Seal of the Primarch'' for 40pts. The Seal is a banner that makes all units within 6'' of it fearless and relentless.

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Special rules:

Fearless

Deep Strike

Eternal Hatred

They follow the rules for a retinue as described in the Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook.


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Transport:
They may take a landraider from C:CSM as a dedicated transport



A few things have been added and others altered I.E. do not have (see above) written beside them. But is Warsmith Pessidus Calx still to over powered for his points.

Perhaps the Warmaster could have one extra toughness. He IS an Iron Warrior

I floated an idea for a warsmth a while ago. One ruel that i use sometimes in friendly games (don't know if you might want to use it but it's yours if you do):




Siege Lord - Warsmtih *enter name* is an inspiring presence on the battlefield, spurring his artillary crews to makes shots that woudl otherwise be impossible. As long as the warsmith is on the table, the IW army may re-roll scatter on any ordnance weapons.

@: Praxiss

That is a pretty interesting rule and I may use it soon. Thanks

It can make things interesting in apoc games when i field 3 vindicators and 3 basilisks.