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It’s a yet unseen fish elf crab claw.

I wager new Keeper of Secrets. Considering the big updates to all the other chaos Gods its clear that the Keeper had to come with an update. Likely also getting a duel (very least) kit with a named keeper hero and perhaps something else too.

A little while ago we had a sets of steampunk/gear/mechanised i knoticed it’s part of the door/bulk head in the rogue trader set. Can’t link photos on my phones easily so I’ll let some one else pop that up if so inclinded unless it’s already been posted.

 Overread wrote:
I wager new Keeper of Secrets. Considering the big updates to all the other chaos Gods its clear that the Keeper had to come with an update. Likely also getting a duel (very least) kit with a named keeper hero and perhaps something else too.

When you consider the pattern of the past 3 years....that is very likely indeed.

KDK/Bloodbound
Thousand Sons/Arcanites
Death Guard/Maggotkin

I'd wager seeing a tiny WE codex release around the summer for Armageddon and then a full release of EC/Slaanesh at the end of the year.

And the reason I say a tiny WE codex release is because apart from new Berserkers...they are the traitor legion that aesthetically could mesh best with the existing Chaos range with little more than an upgrade sprue and wouldn't really have specialised units to the same extent as Thousand Sons (with their general fixed armaments), DG (Plague Marine weapon restrictions) and EC (Sonic Weapons).

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I wager new Keeper of Secrets. Considering the big updates to all the other chaos Gods its clear that the Keeper had to come with an update. Likely also getting a duel (very least) kit with a named keeper hero and perhaps something else too.

When you consider the pattern of the past 3 years....that is very likely indeed.

KDK/Bloodbound
Thousand Sons/Arcanites
Death Guard/Maggotkin

I'd wager seeing a tiny WE codex release around the summer for Armageddon and then a full release of EC/Slaanesh at the end of the year.

And the reason I say a tiny WE codex release is because apart from new Berserkers...they are the traitor legion that aesthetically could mesh best with the existing Chaos range with little more than an upgrade sprue and wouldn't really have specialised units to the same extent as Thousand Sons (with their general fixed armaments), DG (Plague Marine weapon restrictions) and EC (Sonic Weapons).

What you say is true... but I'd hope for Slaanesh first, with a large Chaos release including some WE later on, in which the very aged CSM kit is replaced with one that more visually matches the newer kits. Any upgrade for the existing kit would feel very lacklustre because the aesthetic is so outdated IMO.

 Haighus wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I wager new Keeper of Secrets. Considering the big updates to all the other chaos Gods its clear that the Keeper had to come with an update. Likely also getting a duel (very least) kit with a named keeper hero and perhaps something else too.

When you consider the pattern of the past 3 years....that is very likely indeed.

KDK/Bloodbound
Thousand Sons/Arcanites
Death Guard/Maggotkin

I'd wager seeing a tiny WE codex release around the summer for Armageddon and then a full release of EC/Slaanesh at the end of the year.

And the reason I say a tiny WE codex release is because apart from new Berserkers...they are the traitor legion that aesthetically could mesh best with the existing Chaos range with little more than an upgrade sprue and wouldn't really have specialised units to the same extent as Thousand Sons (with their general fixed armaments), DG (Plague Marine weapon restrictions) and EC (Sonic Weapons).

What you say is true... but I'd hope for Slaanesh first, with a large Chaos release including some WE later on, in which the very aged CSM kit is replaced with one that more visually matches the newer kits. Any upgrade for the existing kit would feel very lacklustre because the aesthetic is so outdated IMO.

You could literally do a one week WE codex release or 2 week release with Armageddon.

New plastic Berserkers.
Angron.
WE Upgrade Sprue.
Plastic Flesh Hounds.

Whereas EC literally need to go back to 2nd ed, 3.5 roots. Sonic Terminators would be nice, an actual plastic Noise Marine kit would be nice, Sonic tanks, maybe even a few unique walkers....Fulgrim. Plus a very large chunk of the Slaanesh Daemon range - 2-3 heralds, Fiends, a Slaaneshi terrain piece....

I hope it's a Keeper of Secrets.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
And the reason I say a tiny WE codex release is because apart from new Berserkers...they are the traitor legion that aesthetically could mesh best with the existing Chaos range with little more than an upgrade sprue and wouldn't really have specialised units to the same extent as Thousand Sons (with their general fixed armaments), DG (Plague Marine weapon restrictions) and EC (Sonic Weapons).

Yeah but they won't. They'll do a new WE Terminator kit with tons of new weapons. Plus some sort of Deathshroud/Exalted Sorcerer equivalent kit, and a new Berzerker kit.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:


You could literally do a one week WE codex release or 2 week release with Armageddon.

New plastic Berserkers.
Angron.
WE Upgrade Sprue.
Plastic Flesh Hounds.

Whereas EC literally need to go back to 2nd ed, 3.5 roots. Sonic Terminators would be nice, an actual plastic Noise Marine kit would be nice, Sonic tanks, maybe even a few unique walkers....Fulgrim. Plus a very large chunk of the Slaanesh Daemon range - 2-3 heralds, Fiends, a Slaaneshi terrain piece....

Absolutely, but I was thinking that the WE upgrade sprue would look very lacklustre on the old CSM and Chaos Terminator kits, and there is still no plastic Havoc kit, so I could see a WE release also being alongside a greater rejuvenation of the unaffiliated kits.

However, I think it is more likely to get a mini release with a handful of kits instead like you say. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even bother upgrading the Berzerker kit, because the current MO seems to be to only update aging SM plastics, and otherwise focus on resin kits and shiny new things for eveyone else.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope it's a Keeper of Secrets.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
And the reason I say a tiny WE codex release is because apart from new Berserkers...they are the traitor legion that aesthetically could mesh best with the existing Chaos range with little more than an upgrade sprue and wouldn't really have specialised units to the same extent as Thousand Sons (with their general fixed armaments), DG (Plague Marine weapon restrictions) and EC (Sonic Weapons).

Yeah but they won't. They'll do a new WE Terminator kit with tons of new weapons. Plus some sort of Deathshroud/Exalted Sorcerer equivalent kit, and a new Berzerker kit.

Would they update the Berzerkers? How many non-SM old plastics have been updated recently? There seems to be a push to get everything in plastic first, so existing plastics are neglected.

World eaters would likely consist of angron, berzerkers, berzerkers terminators, and likely flesh hounds as a start. Potentially a couple clampack characters, maybe marines on juggernaut as the big kit.

This, I'd expect to be a split slaanesh ec release. Big on age of sigmar first, with keeper of secrets (nkari as named) fiends, probably masque, and some variant heralds on foot and or steed. Then mortal followers.

Ec could be later, with noise marines, likely terminator variants, fulgrim, lucius, and they could do the hell strider knight as another large kit.

 Haighus wrote:

Would they update the Berzerkers? How many non-SM old plastics have been updated recently? There seems to be a push to get everything in plastic first, so existing plastics are neglected.

How many old non-SM plastics are anywhere as old as the Berserkers or as ill-fitting in their range as Berserkers?

Berserkers have the problem of being a kit that has 2nd ed. proportions and backpacks.

The only plastics that are anywhere near that age or greater...that haven't been updated in one form or another (be it getting recut, having additional upgrade sprues added etc.) are....um...I'm at a loss here.

SM - Um, everything has been recut from 4th ed onwards or was younger than the Berserker kit to start with.
Orks - Warbuggies and Traks - however, Orks haven't had their 8th release yet and are rumoured for a bigger release wave than most in the summer.
Dark Eldar - Literally had their entire range redone in 5th.
Eldar - Oldest plastic kit iirc is the Falcon, which had the weapon sprue added in with 4th ed. So, technically younger than Berserkers with that update.
Tau - entire range was younger than the Berserkers.
Necrons - Hahaha, notice a pattern?
Imperial Guard - Literally everything is younger than the Berserkers or has been updated since.

Hell, the Sisters of Battle Range - half of it is younger than those Berserkers.

Berserkers have never had their sprue recut, they've never had an updated options sprue thrown in with them. The only change has been 32mm bases - they're still supplied with 2nd ed backpacks for the record.

 Haighus wrote:


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope it's a Keeper of Secrets.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
And the reason I say a tiny WE codex release is because apart from new Berserkers...they are the traitor legion that aesthetically could mesh best with the existing Chaos range with little more than an upgrade sprue and wouldn't really have specialised units to the same extent as Thousand Sons (with their general fixed armaments), DG (Plague Marine weapon restrictions) and EC (Sonic Weapons).

Yeah but they won't. They'll do a new WE Terminator kit with tons of new weapons. Plus some sort of Deathshroud/Exalted Sorcerer equivalent kit, and a new Berzerker kit.

Would they update the Berzerkers? How many non-SM old plastics have been updated recently? There seems to be a push to get everything in plastic first, so existing plastics are neglected.

Some that spring to mind are the Tau Fire Warriors and Crisis Suits (and Tau as a faction/model range was already younger than the Khorne Berserkers).

Scratch another one....

Those aren't the same.

They could conceivably be from the same or a similar kit, but they're not the same part.

Was posting on the fly, meant to come back and edit.

They are indeed not an exact match, but I'm confident it's the same kit.

And I suspect, that's the Mortarch of Grief. Little Banshee looks to be an attendant type creature.

it could also be part of the mortarch of grief

That claw definitely has to be something Slaanesh. It messes with all the plastics from them. I’m sure it won’t be the Keeper, it’ll be something new. Unless I’m forgetting something, pretty much every rumor on the community website has been a new model, not an update. I’d expect we’ll see something completely new to go with that claw; like a mortal Slaanesh lord, similar to the new Nurgle Lords we got in the Maggotkin book. Or Fulgrim, even. I’m positive we’re getting a Keeper; I just don’t think this claw belongs to it.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
That claw definitely has to be something Slaanesh. It messes with all the plastics from them. I’m sure it won’t be the Keeper, it’ll be something new. Unless I’m forgetting something, pretty much every rumor on the community website has been a new model, not an update. I’d expect we’ll see something completely new to go with that claw; like a mortal Slaanesh lord, similar to the new Nurgle Lords we got in the Maggotkin book. Or Fulgrim, even. I’m positive we’re getting a Keeper; I just don’t think this claw belongs to it.

We got a piece of the new Great Unclean One as a preview, iirc. We got art for the Beast of Nurgle as a preview too.


With regards to Khorne, I'd be relatively comfortable to say the releases would be something like this:

AoS:
Flesh Hounds
Plastic Herald on foot and on Juggernaut
Bloodsecrator and Bloodstoker clamshells
Khorgorath

40k:
Angron
New Berzerker kit
New Terminator kit
Clamshell characters
Khorgorath makes an appearance here too

Bam, done.

I’m quietly hoping World Eater Terminators turn out to be the same as the Heresy Era lunatic ones.

I certainly hope that's Slaanesh related. She really needs some new models. What's the only greater daemon that hasnt been updated?


Also can we go back to the previous daemonettes?

Im willing to bet the Ork and Slaaneshi bitz are from Bloodbowl or something

The one that looks like a squig mouth could easily be that goblin/squig star player

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m quietly hoping World Eater Terminators turn out to be the same as the Heresy Era lunatic ones.

Well considering that the Death Guard forgot how to use powerfists despite having a specialist Terminator unit armed entirely with them....

It’s that time of the week again – we show you an upcoming release (well, a teeny tiny bit of one) and you see if you can guess what it is. Ready?


Grot/gretchin/goblin/snotling weapon?

You can tell that is VERY zoomed in by the detail....

Moonclan, to go with the Squig

Yeah, looks Orky in some way to me. The other main possibility is Chaos (especially cultists), but I think that is less likely.

That's way too <removed> with for a cultist. I'd bet an ork.

Foul language removed - BrookM

Definitely a Grot sword.

Something for Cawdor, maybe? Looks rundown and damaged.

Definitely not Slaanesh. Plastic squig hopping grot?

Cawdor makes sense. It's either them or normal cultists