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First of all, here is a rather low-quality recording of the new trailer for the movie. It's the only one I could find so if someone finds a better one feel free to post it.
The movie, overall, looks good from what I could see (again, it's a nice taste, but it doesn't really tell you much about what the story is actually about). From the seminar they had featuring one of the producers and Dan Abnett, it seems like they know what they're doing as far as keeping to the storyline. This was a point that they emphesized frequently (almost obnoxiously). Currently there is no news on who the villain is, as they refuse to give away the surprise.
However, several things were confirmed:
- It will be solely available for purchase directly from the Ultramarines movie website (though there is a possibility of a retail release).
- There will be some form of special box set release (with lots of bonus features and goodies).
- Definite BluRay release some time after normal DVD (possibly with extra never-before-seen scenes).
- Possible digital release.
- Soundtrack for the film will likely be sold seperately.
- There will be no well-known characters in the film (so we won't see the likes of Marneus Calgar and his ilk).
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Well, they don't seem to be skimping out on the blood and violence! That means a lot to some folks in this community. Animation looks pretty standard, but I'd love to get a better video soon so I can see the models and textures a bit better.
The bit where two Marines are talking looks like a dialogue scene from Mass Effect.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:They are the defenders of humanity and by far the most boring are the Ultramarines!
Sigh... why couldn't we get an Inquisitor movie? I have 0 interest in this.
Probably because the Inquisition is a pretty weird place to start testing the waters for films involving the 40k properties?
I mean, let's face it. The Inquisition is so ridiculously pants-on-head stupid, even when operating amongst themselves, that doing a good Inquisition movie would mean rewriting all the Inquisition fluff or making something so convoluted(yet generic and patronizing, since it's a kind of "introduction" film to the property) that it would suck.
Ultramarines, while boring, are a pretty sure bet in terms of an introduction point. They're bland, but they're also the basis for how the vast majority of Astartes Chapters behave.
2010/08/22 05:10:45
Subject: Re:Ultramarines (Movie) News from Games Day
although the movie looks pretty cool, I do hope that the movie gets an update to its graphics. the space marine videogame trailer had better graphics than this!
The guy who walked in front of the camera also made me angry
You're not playing the game like I play it...why aren't you playing the game like I play it?! O_O
Kid_Kyoto wrote:They are the defenders of humanity and by far the most boring are the Ultramarines!
Sigh... why couldn't we get an INquisitor movie? I have 0 interest in this.
Actually, I asked Dan during the Q&A why he chose the Ultramarines out of all 40k universe. I am heavily paraphrasing, but he said something along these lines:
"If you're going to start 40k in the genre of film, you have to start with Space Marines. They're the icon of the universe and that's an obvious choice. The choice for Ultramarines just seemed like it would be the smartest choice. We would love to do a Space Wolves movie, for instance, I mean I think we can all agree that they would be incredibly cool. However, they're quite an odd place to start because you would have to explain not only that they're Space Marines, but why they're also vikings in space. Ultramarines are by far the most iconic of the Space Marines because, more than any chapter, they really exemplify what the Space Marines are to the Imperium. Righteous defenders of everything the Imperium stands for. I know that even though they may be one of the 'boring' chapters, and some of you might gag at the mention of their name, but I assure you we are showing them in a light you have never seen before. One that I'm sure you will all enjoy."
They also mentioned doing an Inquisitor movie sometime in the future, which would likely have heavy inspiration from Eisenhorn.
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:They are the defenders of humanity and by far the most boring are the Ultramarines!
Sigh... why couldn't we get an INquisitor movie? I have 0 interest in this.
And alot of people would have zero interest - well I won't use as harsh terms as you - but much less interest in an Inquisitor movie. Honestly, I'll get behind any 40k movie, because if it is a profitable venture for GW they will produce more movies. So while Ultramarines might not be super exciting to everyone, it's a good place to start. If they sell lots of DVDs of Ultramarines, we'll probably see a few more Space Marine movies fighting a variety of xenos races then they would probably branch out to other factions. I just really find it odd that anyone who is a fan of 40k would not be interested in a 40k movie of any kind. I'm sure there are tons of people, like me, who have been hoping for something like this for many years and it's finally a reality.
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2010/08/22 07:08:15
Subject: Re:Ultramarines (Movie) News from Games Day
Kurgash wrote:Should have been Templars. Nothing says 40k like a bunch of armored men flinging themselves into a melee, at least then we'd know the enemy is Orks.
I do not agree. If I was the one tasked with choosing which Chapter to use for this movie, I would have looked at the following four criteria:
Chapter Name: The Black Templars are better than the Ultramarines, but still not great. I would have gone for something like the Angels of Vengeance or Deathwatch, something which sounds like it would have been an acceptable name for Space Marines in general.
Colour Scheme/Insignia: The Black Templars have a great colour scheme, and the Maltese cross is better than the upside-down Omega of the Ultramarines.
Feel: They're not the Blood Angels or Space Wolves, which is the most important thing.
Doctrine: This is where I feel the Black Templars fall flat. If you're going to make a movie about a melee-heavy Space Marine force, it would be better to use one of the chapters that are kitted out with that in mind, like the Blood Angels (jump packs) or first company Grey Knights (terminator armour and NFWs). And including powered armour and scout armour in the same squads would appear less logical than having scouts that operate independantly.
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It's not really about the colour schemes but rather recognition, association and marketing.
Everybody knows about Ultramarines, they are the meat and two veg of 40K; they appeared first and have always been foremost in the books and SM chapters.
Then there is marketing. Trying to convince a parent of a kid, who are, arguably, the biggest customer of GW products, to watch a film about Deathwatch or Angels of Vengeance would be a traumatic argument.
Imagine if Buzz Lightyear was Soul Drinker or Angel of Chaos? The franchise would not do so well.
The whole idea is that the Ultramarines are a force of good above all. If you were to adopt a less orthodox chapter for a better colour the fans would be in disarray if that chapter were then diluted to appear good for the purposes of the film.
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2010/08/22 13:02:29
Subject: Re:Ultramarines (Movie) News from Games Day
- It will be solely available for purchase directly from the Ultramarines movie website (though there is a possibility of a retail release).
It would be rather stupid if they didn't sell if from the GW stores as well, or at least for a while after the release. They would lose a lot of impulse buys.
I'd buy it from the store, but if I have to get it from a website I am not so sure.
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Elmodiddly wrote:It's not really about the colour schemes but rather recognition, association and marketing.
Everybody knows about Ultramarines, they are the meat and two veg of 40K; they appeared first and have always been foremost in the books and SM chapters.
Then there is marketing. Trying to convince a parent of a kid, who are, arguably, the biggest customer of GW products, to watch a film about Deathwatch or Angels of Vengeance would be a traumatic argument.
Imagine if Buzz Lightyear was Soul Drinker or Angel of Chaos? The franchise would not do so well.
The whole idea is that the Ultramarines are a force of good above all. If you were to adopt a less orthodox chapter for a better colour the fans would be in disarray if that chapter were then diluted to appear good for the purposes of the film.
It was the crimson fists that appeared first then it was the blood angels in 2nd ed and the first codex was Space Wolves.
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Elmodiddly wrote:Everybody knows about Ultramarines, they are the meat and two veg of 40K; they appeared first and have always been foremost in the books and SM chapters.
As SonOfRuss has already pointed out, this is not true.
Then there is marketing. Trying to convince a parent of a kid, who are, arguably, the biggest customer of GW products, to watch a film about Deathwatch or Angels of Vengeance would be a traumatic argument.
If the phrase "Angels of Vengeance" is enough to scare a parent off, wouldn't they have just as much of a problem with, you know, the actual movie!? Even that short clip shown at Games Day had a Space Marine being shot in the face and going down in a shower of blood.
Imagine if Buzz Lightyear was Soul Drinker or Angel of Chaos? The franchise would not do so well.
I hope you can recognise the difference between Toy Story, a kid's movie about kid's toys for kids, and Ultramarines, a movie about supersoldiers that set aliens on fire for a living.
The whole idea is that the Ultramarines are a force of good above all. If you were to adopt a less orthodox chapter for a better colour the fans would be in disarray if that chapter were then diluted to appear good for the purposes of the film.
Which is not a problem for either of the Chapters I suggested. We're not talking about the Flesh Tearers, here.
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Claimh_Solais wrote:Anyone have the video in better quality yet ??!
we shode be happy the MAKE a 40K movie at all
I'm sure they said the same thing about the D&D movie as well.
And the D&D movie had a script that was written by someone unfamiliar with the source material, directed by someone who really didn't give a crap about their production, and starring D list actors.
Not the same situation here. Dan Abnett has pretty much single-handedly made 40k the way it is now.