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 Ghaz wrote:
Mounfang Cavalry went from $36 (IIRC) for two to $65 for four. That's a savings of $7. I believe there's also a savings on the Yhetees.

I'm looking at the canadian prices and I remembered the Mournfangs to be 40 bucks for 2, so the new price of 80 for 4 is not a change. Maybe it's our dollar again :/

An old rumour popped into my head recently. This is from January 2015 on bols, the most unreliable rumour site.
Via the birds in the trees 1-22-2015


Chaos: Very large Dragon kit, spotted in the process of being painted up. Two-headed, very serpentine in pose. Mounted by a Chaos Knight. Taller than Nagash enormous wings dwarf its large base. Said to be truly stunning.

Dwarfs: Large golem built of boulders/stone, covers with runes. Dwarfs atop it manning a platform mounted gunpowder weapon.

Orcs: New Boar-riders kit. New modern dynamic poses, with fully armored & armed Ork cavalry atop, leaning far forward in their saddles.

In various stages of development, time to market unknown.

They got the number of heads wrong, but that sounds remarkably like Archaon. Multi heads, massive wings, serpentine pose.
The boar riders sound like gore gruntas.
It makes you wonder about the dwarf golem. One popular rumour (though unconfirmed by Sad Panda) is that steampunk duardin are up next for AOS. This could be the centrepiece for that release.
It could be nonsense but in the light the other parts coming true, it may be worth considering.

 Sarouan wrote:

Make Orruks that aren't mushroom/just green! Add female Orruks! Make Fire/Metal Dwarves, not just "somewhat like old Slayers with helms"!

You do realize that AoS is a continuation of WHFB right? Sure they are changing things up, but its not cutting all ties with the old setting.

Orruks are still orks, and the Fyreslayers are the "children" of Grimnir so of course the slayer tradition is still alive.


From the start AoS has always struck me as being about GW keeping their more iconic/unique elements while replacing the standard fantasy/Tolkien-esq parts.

Can anybody summarise any of the rules for the 5 warscroll battalions that came with the 5 start collecting sets that were released yesterday?

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Can anybody summarise any of the rules for the 5 warscroll battalions that came with the 5 start collecting sets that were released yesterday?

I'd be very interested in the full stats myself.

Chikout wrote:
An old rumour popped into my head recently. This is from January 2015 on bols, the most unreliable rumour site.
Via the birds in the trees 1-22-2015


Chaos: Very large Dragon kit, spotted in the process of being painted up. Two-headed, very serpentine in pose. Mounted by a Chaos Knight. Taller than Nagash enormous wings dwarf its large base. Said to be truly stunning.

Dwarfs: Large golem built of boulders/stone, covers with runes. Dwarfs atop it manning a platform mounted gunpowder weapon.

Orcs: New Boar-riders kit. New modern dynamic poses, with fully armored & armed Ork cavalry atop, leaning far forward in their saddles.

In various stages of development, time to market unknown.

They got the number of heads wrong, but that sounds remarkably like Archaon. Multi heads, massive wings, serpentine pose.
The boar riders sound like gore gruntas.
It makes you wonder about the dwarf golem. One popular rumour (though unconfirmed by Sad Panda) is that steampunk duardin are up next for AOS. This could be the centrepiece for that release.
It could be nonsense but in the light the other parts coming true, it may be worth considering.

I am just picturing in my head a massive stone golem with dwarves on top of it with cannons and . That just ignited hype for steampunk duradin I never knew I had.

Several of these like Chaos Dragon and 'Golems' were originally posted by Hastings and circulating on Warseer for a long time. There was also something like this shown in a WFB8 artwork. I have not watched Boar Boyz rumors closely but the others were posted earlier. Birds in the Trees was throwing a lot of stuff around. If you go by this, the BOLS 'industry insiders' will get things right after a while, too...


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I'm not saying it may not happen, just that there were rumors for a while about large Dwarf machines/walkers/creatures

Jack Flask wrote:

You do realize that AoS is a continuation of WHFB right? Sure they are changing things up, but its not cutting all ties with the old setting.

Continuation? It's a new universe. They make winks refering to the old game and like to use a few same names and all, but that's definitely not the same setting. Alarielle isn't the Everqueen from WFB. The tone is also very different.

The main purpose of AoS is, to me, to have a healthy restart. If you keep being bound in the past, you will have troubles not to repeat the same mistakes than before. To me, the Seraphons were a huge mistake (meaning just keeping the old miniatures without anything new more suited to AoS setting) and their background is frankly speaking quite well of what the fluff team is forced to write to try to justify their decisions with keeping the old miniatures. Having Chaos the exact same way than before like "yay we are dumb brutes who can't understand the utility of using shooting weapons/war machines" isn't very bright as well. It's better I don't start on Death and Destruction, it's the same damn thing.

At least they took the opportunity to use components from Crypt Horrors in a different way to make new units for the Ghoul faction. That's still using the old kits, though.

Orruks are still orks, and the Fyreslayers are the "children" of Grimnir so of course the slayer tradition is still alive.

And that's what I regret in AoS. If, in the end, they don't want to cut ties with the old game, they shouldn't have destroyed it in the first place.

If you have a new setting, then better to do it right and to the fullest. Make news factions, new ways. The Sylvaneth is the perfect example of what they should be doing. Bring humans who have nothing to do with Old Empire/ Chaos barbarians. AoS is a High Fantasy setting, with Gods quite litterally walking with their followers to war. I want to see Sigmar, I want to see Khorne. In miniatures. No more excuse with "the Chaos Gods are in the Chaos Realms" - let them fight truly, that's what AoS is talking about.

From the start AoS has always struck me as being about GW keeping their more iconic/unique elements while replacing the standard fantasy/Tolkien-esq parts.

For now, it certainly feels like a question about holding tighter their grip on trademarks.

But that question alone doesn't make a living world.

That argument has been done to death already. In terms of a literary universe, it is not a new universe, they are the same universe with the same continuity. I hate seeing that line about how it's a separate universe over and over again, it's so misleading.

 Bull0 wrote:
That argument has been done to death already. In terms of a literary universe, it is not a new universe, they are the same universe with the same continuity. I hate seeing that line about how it's a separate universe over and over again, it's so misleading.

This is correct all the general fluff is still the same. Like the blood kiss of vampires and how they are made, they refer their vampiric children as get like always. They note that neferata and mannfred from are from the world that was in the in the Death book. Plus if you know how someone is turned into a vampire and how it works the vampire curse name makes sense(the vampiric curse name is called soulblight). Plus there are various relics from the old world lying around hell nagash has an obelisk filled with the souls from the old world. The first AOS campaign book pretty much starts after the end times with sigmar floating around in the "void" clutching to the core of the world that was. Then he meets his star dragon buddy and he shows him the new world's that spawned from the release of the winds of magic. Sigmar did not create them.

So sigmar decided to set up his new kingdom or "empire" in the realm most attuned to his power. The incarnates then re emerged due to the fact that they were now tied and interwoven with the very winds themselves. Archaon starts off floating in the void and through his third eye the chaos gods show him the mortal realms and decided that his work was not actually "done" yet he was far from finished. It's revealed in end times that it has been a cycle of destruction and rebirth. The gods of the old world were once mortals failed against chaos and ascended to god hood. That process has been repeated again with the characters who went against various odds and succeeded and made their mark in the old world.

There is a very lovecraft aspect to the whole thing.

Teclis even notes that the incarnates are pretty much gods once the winds of magic were bound to their souls. Nagash pretty much devoured a god.

Sigmar even has a library of the events of the old world in his palace so his general's, stormcast and war priests can learn from the mistakes of the past since they make it clear sigmar does not want to lose again. Skaven also note they have a great book detailing their alliance with Archaon. Now of course it's obvious why Death and Chaos have the most returning characters.

My friend who is a GW manager pretty much said that AOS is pretty much "part two". The universe is the same but they are in a different kind of world and setting and of course the setting has changed some of the rules somewhat and we got even more detailed information on how necromancy works in the lord of undeath book. Right now the old world is like the horus heresy era to most normal people.

Take it to AoS discussion please!

Yes, again.

 Manchu wrote:
Rule Number Two is Stay On Topic.
This thread is for discussing new AoS releases; not for discussing AoS or GW generally.

 Gamgee wrote:
As a newbie to this whole thing. What are army construction rules? The new Orruk models I think the ironjaws (maw crusha) looks cool. Is it possible for me to start a grand alliance destruction army with units from any of these factions?

Are there any benefits to having an army of only one faction? If so where can I find all these rules?

Gamgee my friend. Head over the the Age of Sigmar forum and make a new thread and ask all the questions there. I am sure you will get better results on how to get started in to AoS.

I agree with you that these Orgers (sorry keep forgetting what they are called) are almost an instant buy for me as well.


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 Olgerth Istaarn wrote:
Could this get anymore gimmicky?

Hey, let's integrate with Pokemon Go! Cmon GW! I love it when you embarrass yourself AND people who pay you money for the privilege!

I don't get it. Can you please explain what you mean please.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Do we know if they are getting new war scrolls or will they have the same rules?

Did this question ever get answered?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Baron Klatz wrote:
I am loving everything about this release!

But... none of these minis are new? You could literally buy everything they've got on pre-order 2 weeks ago.

And for someone who doesn't know anything about Fantasy, I didn't know this. So now I am interested in something I didn't know 2 weeks ago.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Do we know if they are getting new war scrolls or will they have the same rules?

Did this question ever get answered?

They already have new warscrolls online and on the app. Mostly the stats are the same, but some gain some new abilities and names.

Changes:
Hunter -> Icebrow Hunter:
Gains "Masters of Ambush" (do not deploy normally, place hero anywhere on board during any of your hero phases 9" away from enemies) and "Icy Breath" (instead of attack with other ranged weapons, pick a unit within 6" inches and roll on 4+ do D3 mortal wounds).

Icefall Yhetees:
Gain "Invigorated by the Blizzard" (can charge in the same turn they ran if they started the charge within 16" of a friendly THUNDERTUSK)

Sabretusks -> Frost Sabres (rename only, no changes to stats/abilities)

Mournfang Riders:
Loses option for dual clubs/blades. Still has option for club/blade + ironfist.
Gains new option to replace club/blade+ironfist with great weapons (1 less attack, +1 damage, gives -1 rend compared to club/blade). I'm not really sure which option is better, seems like club/blade+ironfist would be nicer for the mortal wounds when blocking, but maybe the -1 rend for great weapons really helps them out?

Stonehorn Beastriders:
No longer gain option for Frost Spear. Riders have the same profile that Thundertusks used to have (1 gets harpoon launcher, other gets chaintrap/blood vulture. 6 punch/kick attacks in close combat). Otherwise the same.

Thundertusk Breastriders:
No changes.

Frostlord (on Stonehorn/Thundertusk):
Replaces riders for Stonehorn or Thundertusk with single rider using Frost Spear (melee weapon 4 attacks, 3 damage now) in addition to 3 punch/kick attacks. Gives the model 3+ armor instead of 4+. Gives the model 1 more max wound. Has "Bellowing Voice" command ability (allows you to reroll all charges for any BEASTCLAW RAIDER units within 14" when they charge).

Huskard (on Stonehorn/Thundertusk):
Replaces riders for Stonehorn or Thundertusk with single rider using Chaintrap, Harpoon Launcher, or Blood vulture. Effectively weaker than base Stonehorn or Thundertusk beastriders, as there are less attacks, but gives the model an additional ability:
Line-breakers (on Stonehorn only): allows a MOURNFANG PACK within 10" to immediately pile in and attack after Huskard attacks. This is not a bonus attack, just allows you to skip your opponent.
Blizzard-speaker (on Thundertusk only): Plaguepriest-like "magic". Roll a dice and add 1 for every friendly THUNDERTUSK within 18"; on 4+ pick to give friendly BEASTCLAW RAIDER unit within 18" ability to reroll wounds of 1 until your next turn OR heal them D3 wounds.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Several of these like Chaos Dragon and 'Golems' were originally posted by Hastings and circulating on Warseer for a long time. There was also something like this shown in a WFB8 artwork. I have not watched Boar Boyz rumors closely but the others were posted earlier. Birds in the Trees was throwing a lot of stuff around. If you go by this, the BOLS 'industry insiders' will get things right after a while, too...


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I'm not saying it may not happen, just that there were rumors for a while about large Dwarf machines/walkers/creatures

Ever since seeing for the first time John Blanche's flying ships (https://au.pinterest.com/pin/476959416756665117/) I have always wanted to have these in my Dwarf Army. About six months I was actually considering scratch building one, but at this point I think I will sit and wait and see what -and if- is done for the Steamhead range.

In general I really hope that GW take the steampunk aspect of their dwarf range up to 11. Really push the impossible science side of things, feed in a good chunk of grim darkness and come out with a truly GW take on techno dwarfs.

I think I've heard rumours of Dwarf airships and golems from GW for at least a decade by now so I wouldn't hold my breath for them to release one anytime soon.

There is one in the works at MOM miniatures though:

Thanks!

I know the rumour is unlikely especially given the source, but I shared it as the other two parts of that post came true. If those were guesses I want that person buying my lottery tickets. Archaon is seperpentine, it does have massive wings, it does have multiple heads.

The boar riders are heavily armoured and the riders are leaning forward in their saddles. Also new boar riders was a strange thing to predict giving the existing, very good boar rider sculpts.
It all reads like someone really did get a peak into the design studio. That combined with the rumours of steam punk duardin suggests the golem could finally become reality.

Of course if they saw a cad image on a computer, there is no guarantee it would eventually become a model. I imagine they throw out concepts all the time.

I'd love to see some hardcore steampunk dwarf tech.

Unfortunately Titan Forge beat them to the punch with their Metal Beards range, but it is Titan Forge we're talking about who don't always do things with their best foot forward...

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I'd love to see some hardcore steampunk dwarf tech.

Unfortunately Titan Forge beat them to the punch with their Metal Beards range, but it is Titan Forge we're talking about who don't always do things with their best foot forward...

Considering the quality of the AOS models I am hopeful. I do think the new dwarfs style will be more like this guy the cog smith and the iron drakes.

 shinros wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I'd love to see some hardcore steampunk dwarf tech.

Unfortunately Titan Forge beat them to the punch with their Metal Beards range, but it is Titan Forge we're talking about who don't always do things with their best foot forward...

Considering the quality of the AOS models I am hopeful. I do think the new dwarfs style will be more like this guy the cog smith and the iron drakes.

That is a good guess.

Icebrow Hunter still infiltrate with his sabre tusks? Frost Lords sound legit and Yetis got a nice boost.

Chikout wrote:
I know the rumour is unlikely especially given the source, but I shared it as the other two parts of that post came true. If those were guesses I want that person buying my lottery tickets. Archaon is seperpentine, it does have massive wings, it does have multiple heads.

The boar riders are heavily armoured and the riders are leaning forward in their saddles. Also new boar riders was a strange thing to predict giving the existing, very good boar rider sculpts.
It all reads like someone really did get a peak into the design studio. That combined with the rumours of steam punk duardin suggests the golem could finally become reality.

Of course if they saw a cad image on a computer, there is no guarantee it would eventually become a model. I imagine they throw out concepts all the time.

I think I remember DuffyBear on Warseer having a brief set of rumours pre AoS?- he mentioned a chaos dragon with multiple heads and I am sure he mentioned a dwarf tunnelling/mining machine- maybe a centre piece? He was clear that this was a one off- a friend had a little info for a brief window but I remember the other info being pretty accurate. Maybe the rune golem things will appear as monstrous infantry?
I hope the dwarfs themselves are in the theme of the Ironbreaker and hammerer sets.

campaign update ....

Given the accuracy of the things gotten right in that rumour (sounds like someone got a brief glimpse), I think the "golem with a platform" is the magmadroth. Looks like stone (though partially molten), has runes and a platform.

 reds8n wrote:
campaign update ....

I think whoever typed out the rules paragraph of that got somewhat distracted by the high cut of Alarielle's dress and thigh there.

Chikout wrote:
I know the rumour is unlikely especially given the source, but I shared it as the other two parts of that post came true. If those were guesses I want that person buying my lottery tickets. Archaon is seperpentine, it does have massive wings, it does have multiple heads.

The boar riders are heavily armoured and the riders are leaning forward in their saddles. Also new boar riders was a strange thing to predict giving the existing, very good boar rider sculpts.
It all reads like someone really did get a peak into the design studio. That combined with the rumours of steam punk duardin suggests the golem could finally become reality.

Of course if they saw a cad image on a computer, there is no guarantee it would eventually become a model. I imagine they throw out concepts all the time.

You are right, it is a list of valid rumors. Fingers crossed for Duardin models

The buff for the Blessed Host Warscroll from the Stormcast Start Collecting box is not that bad: