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 Adrassil wrote:

Still no Ciaphas Cain or Amberley Vail; it's dumb.

Yeah, those would be cool to have.
   
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 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Adrassil wrote:

Still no Ciaphas Cain or Amberley Vail; it's dumb.

Yeah, those would be cool to have.


There are cool proxy ones by W Artel, but GW really is frigging up badly here.

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 Adrassil wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Adrassil wrote:

Still no Ciaphas Cain or Amberley Vail; it's dumb.

Yeah, those would be cool to have.


There are cool proxy ones by W Artel

They are resin, right? HIPS only for me
   
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 Adrassil wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Adrassil wrote:

Still no Ciaphas Cain or Amberley Vail; it's dumb.

Yeah, those would be cool to have.


There are cool proxy ones by W Artel, but GW really is frigging up badly here.

The amount of third party Cains is why I'm surprised we've not seen an official one yet.
   
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 Arbitrator wrote:
 Adrassil wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Adrassil wrote:

Still no Ciaphas Cain or Amberley Vail; it's dumb.

Yeah, those would be cool to have.


There are cool proxy ones by W Artel, but GW really is frigging up badly here.

The amount of third party Cains is why I'm surprised we've not seen an official one yet.


I don't really know why we don't have ''prominent'' killteams like Cain and his Valhallans or Cain and his schola cadets. They would be ideal for a small box of characterful sculpts.
   
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Tsagualsa wrote:

Cain and his Valhallans

This! Of course there need to be Jurgen with his meltagun among them.
   
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 Mr. Burning wrote:
The clamour for pre and post heresy info is rising and GW are aware of that. The Beast series had what? 7 books? I'd expect another massive series along with the current timeline rift shenanigans.

There’s 12 books in the Beast series. The last one deals with reorganizing the Imperium.
I don’t think it’s a question of if there will be a Scouring series, but how many books are going to be in it. Probably 2 dozen or more books, several major battles, each Primarch meeting their end, and the legions breaking up into chapters and war bands. Was it ever officially stated that the Dawn of Fire series is set to follow the edition of the game like a running chronology?
   
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From a Warhammer Community post:

The Siege of Terra series is one of the most exciting narrative events in Warhammer history, telling the story of the climax of the Horus Heresy in incredible detail. Echoes of Eternity is the last novel before the massive multi-part finale, and finds Sanguinius leading a final defence of the Imperial Palace. With his brothers scattered, wounded, or isolated, the primarch must rally the last defenders for a fateful showdown with the traitors’ own Red Angel, Angron.

Poor wording or a hint that The End and The Death may not be a two parter?

   
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 alphaecho wrote:

From a Warhammer Community post:

The Siege of Terra series is one of the most exciting narrative events in Warhammer history, telling the story of the climax of the Horus Heresy in incredible detail. Echoes of Eternity is the last novel before the massive multi-part finale, and finds Sanguinius leading a final defence of the Imperial Palace. With his brothers scattered, wounded, or isolated, the primarch must rally the last defenders for a fateful showdown with the traitors’ own Red Angel, Angron.

Poor wording or a hint that The End and The Death may not be a two parter?



The End and The Death (of a character we have just introduced).

   
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 alphaecho wrote:

From a Warhammer Community post:

The Siege of Terra series is one of the most exciting narrative events in Warhammer history, telling the story of the climax of the Horus Heresy in incredible detail. Echoes of Eternity is the last novel before the massive multi-part finale, and finds Sanguinius leading a final defence of the Imperial Palace. With his brothers scattered, wounded, or isolated, the primarch must rally the last defenders for a fateful showdown with the traitors’ own Red Angel, Angron.

Poor wording or a hint that The End and The Death may not be a two parter?


As I said before: count yourself lucky if it ends after Part 3. At worst it will be another endless drag in the vein of Warhammer 40K - The Horus Heresy: The Siege of Terra: The End and the Death Part 4 - Samus' left bollock.
   
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 alphaecho wrote:

From a Warhammer Community post:

The Siege of Terra series is one of the most exciting narrative events in Warhammer history, telling the story of the climax of the Horus Heresy in incredible detail. Echoes of Eternity is the last novel before the massive multi-part finale, and finds Sanguinius leading a final defence of the Imperial Palace. With his brothers scattered, wounded, or isolated, the primarch must rally the last defenders for a fateful showdown with the traitors’ own Red Angel, Angron.

Poor wording or a hint that The End and The Death may not be a two parter?


Pretty sure it was confirmed that it's a two-parter, but each book is absolutely massive. There's also the Garro novella in between, so I guess you could say it's 3 books.

"Dig in and wait for Winter" 
   
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StraightSilver wrote:
 alphaecho wrote:

From a Warhammer Community post:

The Siege of Terra series is one of the most exciting narrative events in Warhammer history, telling the story of the climax of the Horus Heresy in incredible detail. Echoes of Eternity is the last novel before the massive multi-part finale, and finds Sanguinius leading a final defence of the Imperial Palace. With his brothers scattered, wounded, or isolated, the primarch must rally the last defenders for a fateful showdown with the traitors’ own Red Angel, Angron.

Poor wording or a hint that The End and The Death may not be a two parter?


Pretty sure it was confirmed that it's a two-parter, but each book is absolutely massive.


Nah, they avoid actually saying ''This book has two halves'' like the plague, it's always multi-volume this and more than one part that. They also do not call Part 1 ''the first half'' as you would naturally sooner or later. Imho, they plan to announce part 3 as a 'surprise' on Warhammer Fest 2023, probably for a christmas release. Speculation on my part: they'll do a cover release as well, with a cover deliberately chosen to maximize speculation about some of the whackier fan theories and so on.
   
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Tsagualsa wrote:
StraightSilver wrote:
 alphaecho wrote:

From a Warhammer Community post:

The Siege of Terra series is one of the most exciting narrative events in Warhammer history, telling the story of the climax of the Horus Heresy in incredible detail. Echoes of Eternity is the last novel before the massive multi-part finale, and finds Sanguinius leading a final defence of the Imperial Palace. With his brothers scattered, wounded, or isolated, the primarch must rally the last defenders for a fateful showdown with the traitors’ own Red Angel, Angron.

Poor wording or a hint that The End and The Death may not be a two parter?


Pretty sure it was confirmed that it's a two-parter, but each book is absolutely massive.


Nah, they avoid actually saying ''This book has two halves'' like the plague, it's always multi-volume this and more than one part that. They also do not call Part 1 ''the first half'' as you would naturally sooner or later. Imho, they plan to announce part 3 as a 'surprise' on Warhammer Fest 2023, probably for a christmas release. Speculation on my part: they'll do a cover release as well, with a cover deliberately chosen to maximize speculation about some of the whackier fan theories and so on.


How big can it actually be unless they are tying up every arc in two tomes?
   
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Well, it is listed as "The End and the Death: Volume I" so...maybe?

   
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 Mr. Burning wrote:
Tsagualsa wrote:
StraightSilver wrote:
 alphaecho wrote:

From a Warhammer Community post:

The Siege of Terra series is one of the most exciting narrative events in Warhammer history, telling the story of the climax of the Horus Heresy in incredible detail. Echoes of Eternity is the last novel before the massive multi-part finale, and finds Sanguinius leading a final defence of the Imperial Palace. With his brothers scattered, wounded, or isolated, the primarch must rally the last defenders for a fateful showdown with the traitors’ own Red Angel, Angron.

Poor wording or a hint that The End and The Death may not be a two parter?


Pretty sure it was confirmed that it's a two-parter, but each book is absolutely massive.


Nah, they avoid actually saying ''This book has two halves'' like the plague, it's always multi-volume this and more than one part that. They also do not call Part 1 ''the first half'' as you would naturally sooner or later. Imho, they plan to announce part 3 as a 'surprise' on Warhammer Fest 2023, probably for a christmas release. Speculation on my part: they'll do a cover release as well, with a cover deliberately chosen to maximize speculation about some of the whackier fan theories and so on.


How big can it actually be unless they are tying up every arc in two tomes?


In the recent video Dan Abnett himself said something about the whole of it being well above 1000 pages iirc., and the first volume has 480 pages according to the internet. So 3 volumes is certainly not out of the question. Also, trilogies just sell better than two-volume or four-volume sets, without a real reason, and make for good 'deluxe edition' boxed sets and so on, so from a marketing perspective you'd certainly rather go for another trilogy than for a two-parter.
   
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Yep, trilogy sounds better.

This just sounds like it could end up padded or a mish mash of 'endings'.
BUT prefer that tp another interminable run of novels stretching out for another 24 months....
   
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It's all the same author. It's just a big book so they've split it into three. For a series this long, 1000 pages isn't excessive. Some of the Wheel of Time books approach that, most of the Stormlight books are that long (and also split into two in the UK).
   
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deano2099 wrote:
It's all the same author. It's just a big book so they've split it into three. For a series this long, 1000 pages isn't excessive. Some of the Wheel of Time books approach that, most of the Stormlight books are that long (and also split into two in the UK).


I don't really care about multi-volume books, split series and whatever, they can do that if they want to or if it makes sense from a business perspective. That being said, the Heresy has dragged on for long enough and a lot of the recent books fell like blatant padding. And their stupid teasing and dragging a quasi-finished book out for another year adds insult to injury. I get why they do it, it's probably gonna make them a lot of extra money and drive fan engagement, but it's nonetheless detestable.
   
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Finished the Harrowmaster. It was a good read, and I enjoyed it much more than the Huron's one. Yet I think that author's talents are best suited to orks fiction, and cannot wait to read another novel about the Ufthak Blackhawk.
   
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There's a new teaser article up for Black Library Celebration. As far as i can see there's nothing we did not know about, but you can enter a prize draw to win a piece of cover artwork from the Siege of Terra series by signing up to the newsletter:

Win a Signed Siege of Terra Art Print

Our week of festivities begins with something special – a competition in which 10 lucky people will win a signed Siege of Terra art print from the cover of the latest book in the series! This competition runs from the 13th of February to the 5th of March. All you have to do to enter is sign up for the Black Library newsletter, and stay subscribed until the winners are chosen randomly.*

* Terms and conditions apply.


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/25/black-library-celebration-2023-scintillating-tales-from-the-worlds-of-warhammer/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=black-library&utm_content=blcelebration25012023

To add to my paranoia , they still avoid calling TEatD Part I the first half of the final book, which fuels my suspicion that there'll be a third part that will be revealed with much ado later in the year.

The next phase of the Siege of Terra series also lands. The End and the Death Volume I is the first part of Dan Abnett’s riveting finale to an epic series. With madness and Chaos closing in all around, only a sliver of hope remains for Terra. Rest assured, this book will also arrive in French and German – and there will be a fantastic special edition too.


   
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Honestly if it's May next year by the time the last book comes out that's still five years to publish a ten-book series. Which while I can see people thinking it's dragging it out, it's a positively lightening fast schedule in the world of publishing.
   
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deano2099 wrote:
Honestly if it's May next year by the time the last book comes out that's still five years to publish a ten-book series. Which while I can see people thinking it's dragging it out, it's a positively lightening fast schedule in the world of publishing.


Oh, i'm not complaining, say what you will about the Heresy series, at least it keeps the lights on for more niche stuff they do alongside of it. I fully expect them to do at least a dozen books for a hypothetical 'Scouring' series afterwards, they need a bread-and-butter Space Marine based cash cow anyhow.
   
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Well the Garro Siege of Terra novella clocks in at 130 pages, so a 100 pages shorter than the Magnus one, so not all the authors are over-writing it at least!
   
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It does feel a bit like a short story that got a bit out of hand rather than a novella tbh.
   
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 The Phazer wrote:
It does feel a bit like a short story that got a bit out of hand rather than a novella tbh.

Yeah, I had the same feeling while reading it.
   
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New Angron book ltd edition gone in less than 5 seconds. Ridiculous.
   
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 Dimrill wrote:
New Angron book ltd edition gone in less than 5 seconds. Ridiculous.


Scalpedy scalp-a-scalp. Could they do something about it? Yes? Do they want to, or even care? Apparently, no.

It's bad long-term buisness practice, just like their 1000 pound pseudo-VIP-tickets and stuff like that.
   
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At his point, anybody still trying to buy the limited editions is a mug.

   
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 Lord Damocles wrote:
At his point, anybody still trying to buy the limited editions is a mug.



You can have it for 150-200€ from eBay, there's about a dozen auctions up... disgusting.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
The End and the Death Volume 1 is slated for release on February 28, which means pre-orders will go up on February 18 if they stick to the usual timing:

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-End-and-the-Death-Volume-I/Dan-Abnett/The-Horus-Heresy-Siege-of-Terra/9781800261204

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It'd be really nice if the GW webstore was actually set up in such a way that it didn't bloody crash when pre-orders go up, FFS.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
 
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