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Can we expect to have models for all four types of *mancers?

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What exactly do you mean? There are images of all 3 new types on Warcom published.
   
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 wuestenfux wrote:
Can we expect to have models for all four types of *mancers?

This is the Technomancer (specifically the Technomancer with Canoptek cloak). The other three Crypteks (Plasmancer, Chronomancer and Psychomancer) can all be found in the first post. Remember GW has an unwritten policy of 'no model, no rules'.

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We’ve only been together a couple of months. And I could do with a new Monolith and/or Void Dragon....

But is this the right time to reveal the depth of my plastic crack addiction??

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oh dear.....girlfriend has asked me what I want for Christmas.....

We’ve only been together a couple of months. And I could do with a new Monolith and/or Void Dragon....

But is this the right time to reveal the depth of my plastic crack addiction??

No reason to beat around that bush. This will put you in the jewelry range of prices though on her gift - the real question is - is it worth it?

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 Xenomancers wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oh dear.....girlfriend has asked me what I want for Christmas.....

We’ve only been together a couple of months. And I could do with a new Monolith and/or Void Dragon....

But is this the right time to reveal the depth of my plastic crack addiction??

No reason to beat around that bush. This will put you in the jewelry range of prices though on her gift - the real question is - is it worth it?
Yes.

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The new dex makes me glad i built all 9 of my tomb blades with gauss. It makes me regret making my 20 immortals with tesla, but a friend of mine of mine if helping me change those.



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For tomb blades difference isn't that big though as mwbd didn't affect. Actually tomb blades got buff as you can safely advance again.

Immortals...real tesla nerf happened with 9e with more -1 to hit around. Codex frees you from needing mwbd to get same as now

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I'm pondering a dynasty setup in 9e. In 8e i pretty much played sautekh with a different name.

Now sautekh is even more attractive as you can get back more than 1 cp per turn and up to 1/3 of your original cp, and cp are always good for any army to have anytime.

But there's always the urge to mke your own dynasty, and i was looking at one with the ability to make a 6" pre turn one move and for each unit to reroll one missed attack per phase. The first one saves you from the turn one massacre effect if the other guy goes first, the second one can be useful on your big gun units which i (surprise! surprise!) have several of. Letting a DDA or a monolith reroll a missed heavy shot is never a bad thing. and stays with you thru the whole battle, not just turn one.

But of course you can't take the hyperlogical strategist strait for a non sautekh warlord so no getting cp's back unless you're one of imotekh's bois or playing a 'not sautekh just using their rules' dynasty.

So, rerolling one failed hit per phasr per unit or getting about 1/3 more cp?

Decisions, decisions, what to do?

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I am being pulled in multiple directions here.
Mephrite is just generally great because getting the magic AP-3 is easy.
Szarekhan has some great exclusive access to protocol manipulation and psychic defence (good all arounder stuff) Plus that free reroll to wound per unit (this is amazing).
Custom dynasty is amazing for melee because a free 6" move is nearly a whole free turn of movement.
Sautec is pretty great for horde crons. Just another generally good choice.

My gut tells me mephrite overall is gonna be the best shooting army.
Custom 6" move and objective secured is gonna be top melee.

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It really depends on how you want to play.

Right now the absolute most powerful Dynasties are Novokh and a Custom Dynasty that combines Obsec on everything + 6" pregame move. Both of these dynasties have bonuses that synergize brilliantly with how 9th works and also the design of the Necron dex in general. You want to be getting stuck in on Objectives, so things that make you hold them harder or reliably get you on them to remove people from them are overwhelmingly the best choices.

But if you don't want to be playing the "best" choices there are still loads of other interesting options and combinations. A different flavour of CC focus could be utilizing the Rad-Wreathed trait. If your preferred style of play is lots of smaller units or singular models then the re-roll one wound is totally a valid choice and the 6" pregame move is a handy tool. However with the increased cp, cp every turn and general low cost of stratagems in the book Hyperlogical Strategist is really not the be all end all of WLT's either. In fact if you're picking the Dynasty solely for that then it just seems like a big waste. If we take your preferred style of play with lots of big gun units then the entire Dynastic Code is doing precisely nothing for most of them.

One thing to bear in mind though, unless you're running a full Super Heavy Detach, the Monolith isn't getting a Dynastic Code ability.
   
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It's really hard to see past the custom Dynasties for me. I don't think the Protocol bonus is enough to push you towards a named Dynasty over a custom one and the flexibility of the custom ones is rally powerful.

Novokh is good because it provides some genuine close combat improvements that the custom dynasties can't get. Then again, Rad-Wreathed is a really good CC trait that isn't available to non-custom Dynasties either. Of the other options I think Nihilakh is ultimately just a worse version of the custom 6" move/ObSec Dynasty. Other than Mephrit's extra ranged output and Sautekh's similar advantage, the other Dynasties don't stand out.

Mephrit definitely got more interesting thanks to the extra range really helping out all the infantry weapons. The extra AP is great, but a lot of Necron guns already have really good AP anyway so it too often feels like a win-more trait and against some armies it's almost useless anyway. Anything with a 5+ save or worse is pretty much unaffected by the extra AP from Mephrit.

I don't find Hyperlogical Strategist as useful as it once was. You get 5CPs back over the course of the game, most likely, but Necrons now start with more CPs than they used to and everyone gets the 1CP at the start of their turn too. Enduring Will is really good as a WLT as well, so I agree with Bosskelot that taking Sautekh just for HS is a bit of a waste.

Of the other Dynasties, nothing really jumps out too much as essential. I like Szarekhan's strat for denying Psykers but a 50/50 shot is too random for me. In 9th edition mobility and objectives are key so extra move to get your shorter ranged weapons in range and ObSec on everything is just really hard to pass up. Novokh still works well because they help when you need to clear enemies from objectives in the midfield and provide tough shooting units like Immortals with enough of a bump in offensive output that charging them is not always a good choice.
   
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For the various named Traits, Yeah, Novokh seems to be the better of the Named Dynasties right now. Warriors that actually do damage in melee is nice.

But, the other traits I still am testing out.

For custom ones, for me at least, yes, the up to 6" move is great. It get's our normally slowish models to where they need to be, and let's you reposition something that the opponent thought was out in the open. Obsec is nice, but in my testing, it has been not as impactful on the game as I would have liked. Maybe if I play a lot more non-obsec units it would make a difference.

The one that I am currently testing is the Re-roll a wound roll. This one has been saving CPs and gaining the equivalent CPs with the ability to re-roll across multiple units in both melee and shooting, thus saving that CP for a re-roll on number of shots or on those clutch missed To hit rolls.

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I like Reaper warriors in Maphrit quite a lot. They really like the 15" range.

It also makes the tesla weapons a bit more viable, and the gauss weapons much deadlier to MEQ
   
 
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