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So, in other words, anyone who watches films in a long running sci-fi series known not only for special effects but innovative special effects shouldn’t enjoy seeing films in that long running sci-fi series when they include special effects?\
It’s…..a weird flex.
Who's flexing? I'm genuinely curious why star wars fans love Rogue One. Voss so far is the only person I've seen defend the film with something other than 'b-b-but the battle at the end is so cool! And Vader! Did you see Vader?!'
I made quite a few points about why I liked it. I can repeat them: standalone story with a definite ending, main cast made of new characters, and protagonists without superpowers. Those are massive improvements to any average SW episode IMHO.
About the characters, do you really think Padme, Jar Jar, Anakin, Rei, Kylo Ren, Snoke, 60+ years old Leia and Luke are better than Rogue One characters? I also don't remember Rogue One's characters names and I watched it 3-4 times, last time a week ago or so, and perfectly remember lots of terrible SW characters instead. But such SW characters are still bad even if I remember who they are, maybe I remember their names just because they've always annoyed me so much .
It's also very hard to get invested in the story because you know the death star plans end up with the Rebels, which saps a lot of the tension out of what is supposed to be the climax. You know Tantive IV is going to be fine, because Vader has to board it at the beginning of ANH. The whole thing is just chock full of 'why did I need to see any of this?'
But the same can be said about the entire episodes I, II and III. We know from the beginning that Empire will rise, Jedi will be destroyed and Anakin will become Vader. Even who the emperor is, since it's the same actor of the older trilogy. We really know everything about how it will going to end and it's a 3 movies slog, not just one.
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Rogue one's main three (Andor, Jyn, and K-2SO) I think were fine characters. Rook was fine too and maybe one of the more memorable members of the cast for how convincingly he played this bumbling and disoriented guy who was just desperately trying to do the right thing.
The monk and the gun guy on the other hand could probably have been written out of the movie to no real detriment, and Saw Gerrara was, at the time of release, a name drop with little to no context. Saw's character wouldn't really start coming together until after Rogue One.
Had a busy June so I delayed watching any of Kenobi until the last few days and resisted reading reviews. Not great. Not terrible.
What bothered me the most was that it was bumping up against New Hope a little too close for comfort. I could accept Rogue One because it was telling the story of how the plans got into Leia's hands. We knew how it would end but we didn't know about the fates of the characters. With Kenobi it felt like parts of New Hope didn't really make sense anymore.
Why would Leia record a rather formal message to Ben saying "Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars..." when instead she would have said "Hey Ben, remember when we had those adventures eight years ago? OMG I need your help again!" You'd also think she'd be a little more distraught by his death and perhaps mention her experiences with Ben when consoling Luke? This is quibbling, but there it is. When six-year old TangoTwoBravo watched Star Wars in its original theatrical release he knew that the encounter on between Vader and Ben was a big deal - a reckoning. Much older TangoTwoBravo watching Kenobi wonders why the encounter on the Death Star was so important given what went on in the series?
It also had the problem of nothing really happening for the main characters, because nothing could. The Mandalorian worked as a series because Mando, Baby Yoda and the rest were free of the audience knowing exactly what happens to them in a future movie. It will get tougher as The Mandalorian progresses, but they have some sea room to manouevre. Kenobi? Not so much. That lack of room is not the fault of the writers/director/actors, but it does make you wonder what the show developers thought they would able to do?
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CadianSgtBob wrote: Which of course makes it completely baffling that Disney hasn't given us a Rogue Squadron show, or even a halfway decent dogfight. It's sad that the best new Star Wars war content was in a video game trailer.
My god can you imagine. Every week every X Wing pilot is ultimately fine, bar some 'are they really dead?' and one second string character buying it to motivate the others.
Which is a shame - because they could be the stats for a squadron in the pacific WW2 from start to end so you have the heavy losses vs zero's but ultimately the tables would start to turn.
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xerxeskingofking wrote: I feel thiers room for a series or show with a greater focus on this aspect, with the main cast being a bunch of "villain protagonists", morally grey type imperial intel agents, working against full on "ends justify the means" extremist rebel group. the show can explore the problems both sides face, the imperials having to recoile their desire for a stable orderly government that just lets people get on with living with the increasingly cartoonishly evil senior leadership, and the rebels can soul search over the questions of whether their noble goals can actually justify the means they are forced to use etc.
Would be great... if only Disney weren't in charge. Hell I would love a look at an imperial army squad excelling, being slated for conversion training to stormtroopers an dhow they cope with stuff. Oh and shoot like they do at the start of a New Hope (because there they are very accurate).
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I have been having conversations with some friends for awhile (couple years) where we talk about something that I think applies to why Rogue One is looked at favorably and why so much of Star Wars is so bad.
The difference is a character driven narrative or a plot driven narrative.
Rogue One is very character driven. The story centers on Jin, her traumas, her father and such. And the supporting cast mostly have their own bits. Including Andor and the horrible things he had to do. The monk and his friend and their relationship.
When those characters start dying it carries more narrative weight because this movie wasn't written from a perspective of "Well the plot is blah blah and so we need to move along to blah blah" etc etc...The story is driven by the characters and their motivations and their feelings and their arks even when they all die at the end.
The Mandalorian is also very character driven. You really see the Mando, learn about him, his struggles, and the plot is driven by his loyalties and beliefs and how he learns some grey over the course of the series and the relationships he builds with the kid and his allies.
But Solo? It's all plot driven. It's just hitting the story beats and it's soulless. He needs to meet chewie and then he needs to meet lando and then he needs to win the ship, and we gotta do a kessel run, etc etc...
And thats whats happened in Obi Wan too. What few character moments were there were squished in between the plot so they could get everyone back to their starting points for A New Hope.
For a non-Starwars comparison. Umbrella Academy is an amazing show with some of the most insane dumb gak in the world in it. But the show isn't really ABOUT the end of the world events. It's about the family and their relationships. It's SO character driven and it elevates everything that is happening in that show.
Starwars episodes 7-9... pure plot. And it turns every character into disappointing hollow shells. When they do switch gears to have good little character moments they feel tacked on because they are so unearned.
The prequels are basically the same way. And the clone wars when it's good is good because they focus on the characters first.
Starwars as a whole is so damn plot driven that it's all damn nonsense.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
I think there’s also the difference in the Question from which a show or film arises.
Clone Wars remains the best Star Wars there has ever been. It’s frankly astoundingly good. It shows us what the prequels didn’t. Namely, the Clone Wars. But when in the modern day we can go back and watch it, in proper chronological order (you can find that on the internet) and remove some of the more…erm, shall we say…”colourful” side episodes? It really leans into World Building. And it firmly and confidently answers so many questions the odd timescale of the Prequels left us with.
Rogue One is of course the answer to “but how did Leia end up with the plan?”. And it firmly and confidently answers that question, whilst also showing us just how precariously balanced things were 19 years after the birth of The Empire. The Rebel Alliance is disparate. Some want to fight. Some want to fight dirty. Some want to appease. Some want to run. That in itself provides additional context for the Original Trilogy, and just how buggered Palpatine’s plans were after Yavin (mask dropped, no denying his Evil etc)
Rebels. Another superb series. Not necessarily a question commonly asked, but again like Rogue Ones shows the origins of The Rebel Alliance specifically. Because where you have a heavy handed authoritarian regime, you’re always going to have folk fighting back against it - but to weld those fighters into a largely cohesive whole is tricky, let alone one with the organisation, intel and equipment to be more than an annoyance.
Solo. Now I enjoyed this movie. But the core question it answered just…isn’t particularly interesting. It’s “what’s the Kessel Run, and isn’t a parsec a unit of distance not time?”. Those aren’t really plot questions, but one of Geography (Stellography?) and In-Universe Physics. I mean, to us in the real world a Parsec is a unit of distance. But then, in the real world a Biscuit is a lovely thing to have with a nice cuppa, but also a delicious, buttery flaky cake type roll thing. Both parts of that question could and probably were answered in written canon for those that interested.
The Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett are intertwined in the question they answer. And that question is of quite large scope - what the hell happened after Endor? Those answers are ongoing, so I shan’t sum up. I like what I see though, but do accept Boba could’ve been tightened up.
Obi-Wan Kenobi? Well. I guess the main question after Episode III is “how did Kenobi know Vader was Anakin? For all intents and purposes he left him to die on Mustafar with his eyes gouged out,
And his elbows broken.
To have his kneecaps split
And his body burned away,
And his limbs all hacked and mangled
Brave Sir Anakin
His head smashed in
And his heart cut out
And his liver removed
And his bowls unplugged
And his nostrils raped
And his bottom burnt off
And his penis well I’m sure you get the point.
And that question is answered. And it was one needing an answer for A New Hope to make sense. Did it need the runtime it got to be answered? Debatable. Other than one particularly shonky episode (you know the one I mean), it was a decent watch. New planets (yay!) Everyman not set against The Empire (yay!), new ship designs (yay!) and an incredibly impressive, often scene stealing Ickleia (yay!). But could’ve been trimmed quite nicely.
Resistance? I’ll need to watch that again. I didn’t hate its stories, characters or plots, im just not a fan of the artistic stylings.
Bad Batch? “What happened to the Clones after Order 66?”. A question mostly begged by Clone Wars, which did such a stellar job of showing the Clones themselves to be individuals. Answered with style and aplomb, and I look forward to Season 2.
Ahsoka? Well…..we can reasonably infer this is driven by the “what happened to Ezra and Thrawn?” from her star turn in Mando.
When you’ve got an Interesting Question, we seem to get an Interesting Show or Film.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Clone Wars remains the best Star Wars there has ever been. It’s frankly astoundingly good. It shows us what the prequels didn’t. Namely, the Clone Wars. But when in the modern day we can go back and watch it, in proper chronological order (you can find that on the internet) and remove some of the more…erm, shall we say…”colourful” side episodes? It really leans into World Building. And it firmly and confidently answers so many questions the odd timescale of the Prequels left us with.
I love Clone Wars, and after Luke and Vader, Ahsoka is my fav SW character (and my account icon on D+! ), but let's not pretend that Clone Wars didn't have significant tonal problems for its first three years.
Seasons 4 and 5 were dark, but prior to that the show was essentially schizophrenic in the way it jumped between hard hitting stories and crazy kids slapstick (and I'm not just talking about the Jar Jar episodes). And the absolute nadir of the show was the poison tea episode on Mandalor. Oh boy that was stupid...
Shows don't always hit the ground running (Stargate: Atlantis and The Flash are two examples of shows that did), and it is perfectly normal for a show to take a season to find its feet. Clone Wars, chronological issues aside, took quite a bit longer (a side effect of the long animation process?) and it really shows in those first 3 season.
And season 7 was terrible. The Bad Batch arc and the second arc are Grade A awful. Thank the Maker for the Siege of Mandalor (and for The Bad Batch show being far better than it has any right to be, given their introduction).
Bobthehero wrote: This is meant to be good? The protag litteraly standing up in the open with about fifteen or so Stormtroopers just... Holy gak, this is terrible
Rebels is a show I couldn't stand, and gave up after a few episodes. Of particular disdain were the two bumbling Imperial Officers that I called Bulk and Skull after the idiot bullies from Power Rangers. They were offensively awful.
A while went by and people kept saying that Rebels was great, and I couldn't figure out why. They said that everything kind of comes together as soon as Tarkin arrives. Ok...
Still sceptical, I started watching from where I left off. Tarkin did show up, things did improve, and then the Grand Inquisitor showed up and literally decapitated Bulk and Skull, almost as if the writers knew that these two characters weren't working and chose to get rid of them in the most decisive way possible.
And things improved from thereon out, and overall it was a great show that gave us a wonderful follow-up to The Clone Wars, and gave us more Ahsoka, and the Twilight of the Apprentice episode (and it's very cool resolution later on).
The only minor hiccup with the show occurred during the 5th and final season. It's when the "Disney" side of things started to show through and the main characters stopped killing their adversaries, instead using stun blasts, disarmament (shooting/lightsaber-ing weapons) or, in some cases, literally bonking two heads together to incapacitate foes. Enemies still died, but they were always environmental kills or incidental kills (they deactivate a platform, and people fall to their deaths, someone falls into a furnace rather than being killed by Ezra, and so on).
This same Disneyfication infected the final season of Clone Wars as well, sadly, as we see a simply incredible sequence of Ahsoka during the aerial assault of Mandalor, flying from transport to transport, taking out enemy Mandalorians along the way... except she doesn't directly kill anyone, using her twin sabres only to disarm, and - like with Rebels - jumping away as people fall to their deaths due to indirect methods. It was very distracting. The various mooks and goons can kill one another (Clone Troopers, Droids, faceless Mandos, bad guys), but the good guys can only stun or disarm except in very specific circumstances (ie. killing droids).
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Clone Wars remains the best Star Wars there has ever been. It’s frankly astoundingly good. It shows us what the prequels didn’t. Namely, the Clone Wars. But when in the modern day we can go back and watch it, in proper chronological order (you can find that on the internet) and remove some of the more…erm, shall we say…”colourful” side episodes? It really leans into World Building. And it firmly and confidently answers so many questions the odd timescale of the Prequels left us with.
I love Clone Wars, and after Luke and Vader, Ahsoka is my fav SW character (and my account icon on D+! ), but let's not pretend that Clone Wars didn't have significant tonal problems for its first three years.
Seasons 4 and 5 were dark, but prior to that the show was essentially schizophrenic in the way it jumped between hard hitting stories and crazy kids slapstick (and I'm not just talking about the Jar Jar episodes). And the absolute nadir of the show was the poison tea episode on Mandalor. Oh boy that was stupid...
Shows don't always hit the ground running (Stargate: Atlantis and The Flash are two examples of shows that did), and it is perfectly normal for a show to take a season to find its feet. Clone Wars, chronological issues aside, took quite a bit longer (a side effect of the long animation process?) and it really shows in those first 3 season.
And season 7 was terrible. The Bad Batch arc and the second arc are Grade A awful. Thank the Maker for the Siege of Mandalor (and for The Bad Batch show being far better than it has any right to be, given their introduction).
Bobthehero wrote: This is meant to be good? The protag litteraly standing up in the open with about fifteen or so Stormtroopers just... Holy gak, this is terrible
Rebels is a show I couldn't stand, and gave up after a few episodes. Of particular disdain were the two bumbling Imperial Officers that I called Bulk and Skull after the idiot bullies from Power Rangers. They were offensively awful.
A while went by and people kept saying that Rebels was great, and I couldn't figure out why. They said that everything kind of comes together as soon as Tarkin arrives. Ok...
Still sceptical, I started watching from where I left off. Tarkin did show up, things did improve, and then the Grand Inquisitor showed up and literally decapitated Bulk and Skull, almost as if the writers knew that these two characters weren't working and chose to get rid of them in the most decisive way possible.
And things improved from thereon out, and overall it was a great show that gave us a wonderful follow-up to The Clone Wars, and gave us more Ahsoka, and the Twilight of the Apprentice episode (and it's very cool resolution later on).
The only minor hiccup with the show occurred during the 5th and final season. It's when the "Disney" side of things started to show through and the main characters stopped killing their adversaries, instead using stun blasts, disarmament (shooting/lightsaber-ing weapons) or, in some cases, literally bonking two heads together to incapacitate foes. Enemies still died, but they were always environmental kills or incidental kills (they deactivate a platform, and people fall to their deaths, someone falls into a furnace rather than being killed by Ezra, and so on).
This same Disneyfication infected the final season of Clone Wars as well, sadly, as we see a simply incredible sequence of Ahsoka during the aerial assault of Mandalor, flying from transport to transport, taking out enemy Mandalorians along the way... except she doesn't directly kill anyone, using her twin sabres only to disarm, and - like with Rebels - jumping away as people fall to their deaths due to indirect methods. It was very distracting. The various mooks and goons can kill one another (Clone Troopers, Droids, faceless Mandos, bad guys), but the good guys can only stun or disarm except in very specific circumstances (ie. killing droids).
Yeah I noticed that. It's very bizarre to see lightsaber wielding mystics in an active battle basically not utilize the whole point of their weapon, which is effectively a borderline 1-hit KO against most people that aren't named characters. It harkens back to how Wolverine is depicted in the movies before Logan, where he would only ever use his claws to cut inanimate objects or robots/weapons, but he would just clothesline everyone else instead. It's really annoying when heroes have a lethal weapon and censors basically force them to either not utilize it or somehow it's nerfed. God forbid kids see death considering they probably have been oversaturated with it through video games already.
This is meant to be good? The protag litteraly standing up in the open with about fifteen or so Stormtroopers just... Holy gak, this is terrible
HBMC covers it pretty well, but I'll add that the good things about Rebels are character interactions, a great cast of main characters, a depiction of how a rebellion against the Empire starts and escalates, and how rebels may be united in their goal but may not see eye to eye on how to best get there.
As is so often the case with Star Wars, it gets dodgy once Stormtroopers start shooting. Rebels is by no means an exception to that, but has many rewarding moments if you can bring yourself to overlook that.
All of that in my opinion of course.
H.B.M.C. wrote: And season 7 was terrible. The Bad Batch arc and the second arc are Grade A awful.
I like Trace and Rafa, and their interaction with Ahsoka. The second arc of season 7 rates among my favorite Clone Wars arcs.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
I can't really overlook the fact that one of the show's main character should've died to early and only lived because of the sheer incomptence of the bad guys. There comes a point where it's a problem for the universe you're trying to set and constantly going ''Ah ah Stormtrooper can't shoot, it's funny'' just gnaws at it.
Bobthehero wrote: I can't really overlook the fact that one of the show's main character should've died to early and only lived because of the sheer incomptence of the bad guys. There comes a point where it's a problem for the universe you're trying to set and constantly going ''Ah ah Stormtrooper can't shoot, it's funny'' just gnaws at it.
The last episode of Book of Boba Fett and second last of Obi-Wan gave me similar feelings.
Geifer wrote: I like Trace and Rafa, and their interaction with Ahsoka. The second arc of season 7 rates among my favorite Clone Wars arcs.
There was an entire episode of that arc where they start off captured, escape, run around for a bit, and end the episode right where they started. It was a waste of rendering time.
And I liked Trace and Rafa more when they showed up in Bad Batch.
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Bobthehero wrote: I can't really overlook the fact that one of the show's main character should've died to early and only lived because of the sheer incomptence of the bad guys. There comes a point where it's a problem for the universe you're trying to set and constantly going ''Ah ah Stormtrooper can't shoot, it's funny'' just gnaws at it.
The last episode of Book of Boba Fett and second last of Obi-Wan gave me similar feelings.
Book of Boba was worse, in my opinion. They had disposable hillbillies for the bad guys to shoot up and not look quite as bad, but even those guys had impenetrable plot armor.
Geifer wrote: I like Trace and Rafa, and their interaction with Ahsoka. The second arc of season 7 rates among my favorite Clone Wars arcs.
There was an entire episode of that arc where they start off captured, escape, run around for a bit, and end the episode right where they started. It was a waste of rendering time.
And I liked Trace and Rafa more when they showed up in Bad Batch.
I not opposed to seeing more of them and I hope they come back in season 2, but their Clone Wars episodes had Ahsoka, and it's a scientifically proven fact that Ahsoka makes everything 108% better.
But on the third episode of that arc, how could I begrudge the bad guys actually catching the good guys again? Like, yeah, the bad guys showed some competence. I rarely miss a chance to complain about how Stormtroopers are treated on screen, so I'll make damn sure I give credit to scenes that make them or anyone else stricken with the same fate look good.
So sure, the gang ends up where they started, but they progressed their relationship in the process and got Bo-Katan to notice them. I wouldn't call an episode that has character development, plot advancement and reasonably capable bad guys a waste.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
I'm excited by the sets and worlds. Looks like they finally put some effort in beyond the same 3x5 patch of desert or weird crap half-shrouded in darkness.
The ground level rebellion and bits of politics look pretty good, too. Just hope it spares the cameos and cults...
Because I wasn’t sure, the release has been pushed back a wee bit. Originally scheduled to have a two episode premiere 31 August, it’s now a couple of weeks later with a triple bill launch.
So very much looking forward to this. I don’t mind some Big Names having a cameo. Mon Mothma and Saw Gerrera both make sense, given their place in the history of the Rebellion.
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Gert wrote: That looks pretty neat. I love the transitional phase we see with the Empire replacing the tools of the Republic with those of the Empire.
Agreed. I mean, Clone Wars, Bad Batch and Rebels absolutely knocked it out of the park with colouring in the lesser seen bits, not to mention adding in new and interesting worlds. To see Andor at least promising much the same is very encouraging.
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Then again, so did Obi-Wan, and that show made me question whether Star Wars was every actually good to begin with, or whether the parts that are good are just flukes.
Yeah, I don't have high hopes for Andor because I feel that it'll come across the same issue across most of SW media now, the Empire is depicted as impossibly incompetent and there won't be a compelling villain to hold the story together, especially for a spy-thriller type story where if it isn't campy, it has to show an enemy worth being afraid of to keep the tension.
After the Obi-Wan show managed to ruin even Aunt Beru's character, there can't be many more OT charcaters left to violate in Andor, right? Right..?
*Nervous glaces in Mon Mothma*
Grimskul wrote: Yeah, I don't have high hopes for Andor because I feel that it'll come across the same issue across most of SW media now, the Empire is depicted as impossibly incompetent and there won't be a compelling villain to hold the story together, especially for a spy-thriller type story where if it isn't campy, it has to show an enemy worth being afraid of to keep the tension.
I'm actually pretty positive about Andor, except for the part where they postponed release by three weeks, but I think this is spot on. The first thing I thought when I saw the Death Troopers was how I'm looking forward to them failing extra hard as befits one of the most elite varieties of Stormtroopers. Conditioning is a terrible thing.
But new worlds, pretty sets, eye candy, and spy themes at least look promising enough to overlook the inevitable Imperial incompetence.
However, being unreasonably optimistic, maybe, just maybe they're not leaning so hard into it because they want to produce something more in theme with Rogue One. You know, the movie where all the heroes die in the end and the Empire was marginally less incompetent than usual.
More positivity, the people that produced Obi Wan may have been too busy producing Obi Wan to screw up Andor at the same time, so another glimmer of hope.
I am looking forward to seeing if and how Mon Mothma and Saw Gerrera interact in the show. That was a fun part of Rebels and I want more of it.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
Grimskul wrote: Yeah, I don't have high hopes for Andor because I feel that it'll come across the same issue across most of SW media now, the Empire is depicted as impossibly incompetent and there won't be a compelling villain to hold the story together, especially for a spy-thriller type story where if it isn't campy, it has to show an enemy worth being afraid of to keep the tension.
You got that right, based on every depections of the Empire since Rogue One, Andor is DOA for me.
Sorry, are we talking about the Empire being portrayed as incompetent? The same Empire that lost its super important battle station on its (as of then) second mission? The Empire that failed to capture any member of Rebel command at Hoth and let almost everyone escape? The Empire that consistently lost to freighters and fighters that it outclassed at almost every opportunity? The Empire that lost the Galactic Civil War? That Empire?
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I mean that's just lazy.
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It was still a dangerous Empire, where its foot soldiers and pilots were threats to the good guys who didn't have plot. Lately it's been almost comedic how utterly incapable it is at the moment.
I really, [i]really[i/] hope that young girl in the trailer isn't supposed to be Jyn (or if she is, it's kept as a completely separate storyline), because otherwise that would really undermine their relationship in Rogue One.
However, given the Obi-Wan & Leia show, I expect to be disappointed. Otherwise, I'm liking the look of this and I really hope they can keep the same tone as Rogue One.
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Bobthehero wrote: It was still a dangerous Empire, where its foot soldiers and pilots were threats to the good guys who didn't have plot. Lately it's been almost comedic how utterly incapable it is at the moment.
Exactly. Yeah, the main characters don't die unless required by the plot because that's what main characters do but if you aren't a main character the Empire is very much a threat. The very first scene in Star Wars is the rebel ship getting run down and boarded with all its crew being killed or captured, rebels get butchered by the hundreds at Hoth, every space battle has rebel fighters being blown away by TIEs and only a handful of rebels surviving, etc. The feeling you get from it is that the main characters are surviving because they're incredible badasses, not because the enemy is a bunch of 10 year olds LARPing as bad guys. Now apparently the only way even a minor background character can die is an angry woman throwing a box at him.
One of their light walkers carried a weapon of lethal effect. It fired a form of ultra-high velocity projectile. I saw one of our tanks after having been hit by it. There was a small hole punched in either flank - one the projectile's entry point, the other its exit. The tiny munition had passed through the vehicle with such speed that everything within the hull not welded down had been sucked out through the exit hole. Including the crew. We never identified their bodies, for all that remained of them was a red stain upon the ground, extending some twenty metres from the wreck.
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), but let's not pretend that Clone Wars didn't have significant tonal problems for its first three years.
